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Travel Forum / Travel Types / Air Travel / December 2007Land Is Needed in the NYC Area For a New Airport
It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. How close must it be to NYC ? I'd guesss roughly w/in 65 miles. The only comparison I know of is that "too damne far," "inconvenient" Dullles Airport which many would rather avoid for Reagan National. By "eminent domain"--since money incentive persuasion won't completely work--because it's past time for starting another airport, which would seemingly take 5-10 snail-paced years especially if no existing air force base can be adapted. Furthermore: Anybody complaining of a nuisance (who is residing w/in certain distance of the location) should be offered a generous buyout settlement. What would i do about overall damages to ecology, communities and establiished ways of life ? I DUNNO. That's why they have "public relations." If the valid argument against it is that it would only minimally or temporarily solve anything, then nevermind, and please bring back better passenger rail and/or better busses. > It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. > How close must it be to NYC ? > I'd guesss roughly w/in 65 miles. How about expanding existing airports? 1. Stick some landfill in the water between LaGuardia & Rikers. B. Westchester Co. Airport is only 32 miles from Central Park ... just level some nearby golf courses. >>It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. >>How close must it be to NYC ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > B. Westchester Co. Airport is only 32 miles from Central Park > ... just level some nearby golf courses. Just build a subway > > It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. > > How close must it be to NYC ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > B. Westchester Co. Airport is only 32 miles from Central Park > ... just level some nearby golf courses. re: Landfills to expand existing airports such as LaGuardia Is it the Tokyo airport that has runway extended on a manmade spit (terrific geology111 word) Sounds doable to me so long as i shut my eyes when taking off and landing from such a crazy damne ...hhhmmm....or "simply" well- designed very WIDE & LONG bridges over waters re: subway solution explain a little dulles has fairly successful fast metro train service, n'est-ce pas? Stewart International Airport is just 60 miles north of NYC. Many would like to consider it the fourth New York airport. > It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > nevermind, and please bring back better passenger rail and/or better > busses. > Stewart International Airport is just 60 miles north of NYC. Many would > like to consider it the fourth New York airport. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - re Stewart But the community seems to object when it's brought-up, right? Well, if they were paid, say, double in fair market value, .... > > Stewart International Airport is just 60 miles north of NYC. Many would > > like to consider it the fourth New York airport. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Don't think it would work. It's peoples rights to complain, and they excerise their rights regularly. A while back, people bought new homes which were built bordering undeveloped IAH property. Then the airport expanded, and all hell broke loose with the home owners. > > > Stewart International Airport is just 60 miles north of NYC. Many would > > > like to consider it the fourth New York airport. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Similar thing happened approx 15 years ago in Gwinnett County, Lawrenceville, Georgia. The "good ole boys" aka "the power structure," via a state highway department presentation, tried to expand Briscoe airport for Hartsfield relief. (Hartsfield subsequently spent at least 350+ million dollars to add another runway: Actually I think it was just the fill-dirt itself that cost 350 M to dig and move by conveyor.) (Was it a public bid? I suppose it was, while I'll never forget that figure.) I hadn't seen so many angry bourgeoise (mostly I betcha GOP voters) at the county commission bldg (includes your truly who resided only 5 minutes away from Briscoe). > Don't think it would work. It's peoples rights to complain, and they > excerise their rights regularly. > > A while back, people bought new homes which were built bordering > undeveloped IAH property. Then the airport expanded, and all hell > broke loose with the home owners. While you're right, it is their right to complain, they also have shown lack of common sense when they knew what they were getting themselves into when they bought such homes bordering airport property. The same thing happened in Las Vegas. The departure corridor to runways 25L, 25R, 19L, and 19R used to be totally undeveloped. Now homes have sprung up there faster than rabbits can mate, and people bought and moved into them just as fast. Now they complain about airplane noise. Both IAH and LAS had been there some 30 - 40 years before them and their homes, and when they move in, they complain. Where were their complaints when they saw the area? did they do any research to see if there would be anything to encroach on their housing area? One can hardly blame an airport for lack of common sense. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: tyketto@sbcglobal.net Unix Systems Administrator, | tyketto@ozemail.com.au Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :) | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF > Stewart International Airport is just 60 miles north of NYC. Many would > like to consider it the fourth New York airport. I have a much better idea and it falls right in line with existing airport planning. Build a large new multi-runway airport near Millerton, New York. It has the advantage of (relatively) inexpensive land and virtually no connections to get you near New York City. > It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > nevermind, and please bring back better passenger rail and/or better > busses. NYC already has THREE airports, why would they need yet ANOTHER one? > NYC already has THREE airports, why would they need yet > ANOTHER one? Congestion and Slot Controls. > > NYC already has THREE airports, why would they need > > yet ANOTHER one? > > Congestion and Slot Controls. There's also a problem with duplicative service: if there's, say, 500 people in the NYC area that want to fly to Miami at 3pm on Tuesday, one 737 goes from EWR and another 737 goes from LGA, instead of a single flight. The basic reason for this problem is that its three airports instead of one "Super Airport", so you don't get the full aggregation effect of a classical hub. One straightfoward-sounding way to solve this would be with some sort of inside-security super-highspeed subway line to shuttle passengers and their checked baggage between the airports. Thus, the different airports could begin to specialized more. However, while this approach is conceptually simple, it would be a vastly complex and expensive undertaking to make a reality. -hh > > It's obvious to a simple-mind non-expert there is a need. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - here's what i'm responding to: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21710112/ |
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