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Praying for a flight delay *not*

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Duh_OZ - 18 Apr 2008 12:36 GMT
Hey bud, the airline isn't there to revolve around your needs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24191236/?GT1=42003

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NEW YORK - A passenger who left his seat to pray in the back of a
plane before it took off, ignoring flight attendants' orders to
return, was removed by an airport security guard, a witness and the
airline said.

The Orthodox Jewish man, who wore a full beard, a black hat and a long
black coat, stood near the lavatories and began saying his prayers
while the United Airlines jet was being boarded at John F. Kennedy
International Airport on Wednesday night, fellow passenger Ori Brafman
said.
Mr. Travel - 19 Apr 2008 07:44 GMT
> Hey bud, the airline isn't there to revolve around your needs.
>
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> International Airport on Wednesday night, fellow passenger Ori Brafman
> said.

He started while the plane was boardng.
He was still doing it when it was time to leave.
Rog' - 19 Apr 2008 09:23 GMT
>> Hey bud, the airline isn't there to revolve around your needs.
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24191236/?GT1=42003
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday night,
>> fellow passenger Ori Brafman said.

It was a legitimate response to someone who showed a willingness
to to ignore a flight attendant's directive to suit his own priorities.
I greatly respect the people of that faith, but religious practices do
not take higher priority, nor imbue anyone with greater authority,
over that of the flight crew once on-board.  They should not have
to deal with someone who is willing to challenge them in this way.
Binyamin Dissen - 22 Apr 2008 14:37 GMT
:>Hey bud, the airline isn't there to revolve around your needs.

:>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24191236/?GT1=42003

:>Snip:
:>NEW YORK - A passenger who left his seat to pray in the back of a
:>plane before it took off, ignoring flight attendants' orders to
:>return, was removed by an airport security guard, a witness and the
:>airline said.

:>The Orthodox Jewish man, who wore a full beard, a black hat and a long
:>black coat, stood near the lavatories and began saying his prayers
:>while the United Airlines jet was being boarded at John F. Kennedy
:>International Airport on Wednesday night, fellow passenger Ori Brafman
:>said.

I agree with the airline action.

There is no prayer where he could not have done it before the flight or a
half-hour after take off. Even on the shortest days in NYC, there is at least
a four hour period where the afternoon prayer can be done. Not planning
correctly does not justify placing others at risk.

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