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Travel Forum / Travel Types / Air Travel / June 2008Flying AF?
Flying AF to Paris in the Fall. Opinions you have on flights with them? Gotta be better than on US airlines these days. Hopefully, anyway. Thanks. > Flying AF to Paris in the Fall. Opinions you have on flights with > them? Gotta be better than on US airlines these days. Hopefully, > anyway. > > Thanks. Economy class is economy class is economy class - not much difference between airlines, IMHO. That being said, I flew AF IAH-CDG-IAH last year in steerage and it wasn't bad. Food okay, no charge for drinks; room - tight but liveable, on time, clean airplane, pleasant crew. > Flying AF to Paris in the Fall. Opinions you have on flights with > them? Gotta be better than on US airlines these days. Hopefully, > anyway. > > Thanks. Have a look at http://www.airlinequality.com/Airlines/AirlineA-Z.htm They rank Air France overall as a 4 star airline, but see passenger comments. Regards David Bennetts Australia >Flying AF to Paris in the Fall. Opinions you have on flights with >them? AF is to be avoided, like most European airlines. Free booze, but seat pitch in economy is painfully tight and typically European (i.e., shitty) service all the way from check-in to arrival. Certainly not better than US airlines. Business class is mediocre. First class is pretty good. Much better than the crappy US Airways and the such !!: You don't pay 5 $ for a drink and you get bread with your meal. Service is also better, stewardesses don't think they are substitutes for the FBI. > Flying AF to Paris in the Fall. Opinions you have on flights with > them? Gotta be better than on US airlines these days. Hopefully, > anyway. > > Thanks. > Much better than the crappy US Airways and the such !!: > You don't pay 5 $ for a drink and you get bread with your meal. > Service is also better, stewardesses don't think they are substitutes for > the FBI. Stewardesses? How quaint! --- 6/14/2008 2:45:09 PM ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** yes irwell, back to where you were. When you write in french as well as I do in english, you may come out of under the bed. >> Much better than the crappy US Airways and the such !!: >> You don't pay 5 $ for a drink and you get bread with your meal. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 6/14/2008 2:45:09 PM > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Runge12 blabbles: > yes irwell, back to where you were. > When you write in french as well as I do in english, you may come out of > under the bed. Lol... Okay, then...  SignatureBest Greg " I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that we are some kind of comedy team turns my stomach." - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking > >> Much better than the crappy US Airways and the such !!: > >> You don't pay 5 $ for a drink and you get bread with your meal. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 6/14/2008 2:45:09 PM > > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > Runge12 blabbles: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Okay, then... Runge 12 needs to learn how to use upper case. Signature--- 6/16/2008 8:18:16 AM ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > > Much better than the crappy US Airways and the such !!: > > You don't pay 5 $ for a drink and you get bread with your meal. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 6/14/2008 2:45:09 PM > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** I think the word 'stewardess' conveys something about the charm and elegance of those who dispense in-flight service. And their attitude. After a long flight with them in economy, my main criticism was that towards the end of the journey the champagne had got a little warm. I flew air france to greece last year from Houston. All cattle class seats are cramped. Let's see what's better. 1. Free alcohol. 2. Good alcohol choices, yep for free, multiple whites and reds to chose them. 3. Good food. My shrimp salad was actually tasty, shocking but true. (last time I flew continental FC I got a cheese burger that came out of a plastic back from Houston to Newark). 4. An entertainment center that works, and doesn't need to reboot, or one that fails to work. Honestly, while AF may not be the best european carrier, it beats anything the US has to offer in the same price range. >I flew air france to greece last year from Houston. All cattle class >seats are cramped. Let's see what's better. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >(last time I flew continental FC I got a cheese burger that came out >of a plastic back from Houston to Newark). In FC? I don't think so. That's what they serve in economy on occasion, >4. An entertainment center that works, and doesn't need to reboot, or >one that fails to work. > >Honestly, while AF may not be the best european carrier, it beats >anything the US has to offer in the same price range. Matter of opinion. Go read their quality ratings and comments on airlinequality.com. They have blips like everyone else. > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT), StephanieM > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > In FC? I don't think so. That's what they serve in economy on > occasion, Nope, this particular evening the choices were soup and salad, and soup and sandwhich, and the sandwhich was a cheeseburger out of a bag. I know this b/c I was sitting in the bulk head seat, and I saw the crew taking their cheeseburger out of the bag and munching on it. I guess technically cheeseburgers are sandwhiches...... This isn't a joke. I wasn't really impressed with the first class meal choices on this particular flight. This was after the 90 minute delay in taking off. >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT), StephanieM >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >the crew taking their cheeseburger out of the bag and munching on >it. I guess you are just confused. You weren't actually in FC were you. You were watching what you thought was going on. What was going on was that FC got their normal meal and the crew was eating the economy class meal which is what they do domestically. Airlines don't carry anymore FC food than they need and the crew doesn't get it. They get economy. >I guess technically cheeseburgers are sandwhiches...... This isn't a >joke. I wasn't really impressed with the first class meal choices on >this particular flight. This was after the 90 minute delay in taking >off. That's because you weren't in it and haven't a clue what went on. You just made an ignorant assumption. And, surprise, surprise, food on an aircraft has nothing to do with delays. >I flew air france to greece last year from Houston. All cattle class >seats are cramped. Let's see what's better. [...] >3. Good food. My shrimp salad was actually tasty, shocking but true. >(last time I flew continental FC I got a cheese burger that came out >of a plastic back from Houston to Newark). Food is a damn sight better on domestic CO flights than on domestic AF flights. Oh, you were talkin' about an international AF flight? Then why are you comparing it with Houston to Newark? For what it's worth, between Houston and Paris food is substantially better in CO's BusinessFirst than in AF's business class. >Honestly, while AF may not be the best european carrier, it beats >anything the US has to offer in the same price range. Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier than for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. >>I flew air france to greece last year from Houston. All cattle class >>seats are cramped. Let's see what's better. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > AF flights. Oh, you were talkin' about an international AF flight? > Then why are you comparing it with Houston to Newark? Because that's the only place CO serves hamburgers, and in economy not FC like she said. > For what it's worth, between Houston and Paris food is substantially > better in CO's BusinessFirst than in AF's business class. Don't know about AF's business class but CO's is very good. >>Honestly, while AF may not be the best european carrier, it beats >>anything the US has to offer in the same price range. > > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier than > for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. Agree there. > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:48:36 -0700 (PDT), sh...@xenon.Stanford.EDU > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Agree there. I hate to tell you guys, while you may not believe what they served on my flight from Houston to Newark which was in first class, it really was a cheeseburger out of a bag. I wasn't commenting on AF business/first class and CO's first class. My comment about COs first class was factual. I don't know if they had an issue with food service that night or not, and that's why they passed out burgers or salads with soup, but I thought it was pretty amazing getting a cheeseburger out of a plastic bag in first class on CO. Since I was using my vacation pass (I worked for an affilate of CO, XJET) I was bumped to first class, but I was offered the same meal choice). So since I didn't pay for the flight I wasn't inclined to complain about the food choice for that evening. I have flown oversees on CO and AF. My experience on AF was better. The food was better, the fact you could walk to the back of the plane and get yourself a drink, a soda, or even a snack was really nice. The entertainment system is better, more channels and more choices. I know that going forward I am definately going to see what options other than CO are available when I book a trip. You real hope in flying coach is that Airbus is flown instead of a Boeing plane. Airbus's tend to have a bit more room in coach due to their design. >> Agree there. > >I hate to tell you guys, while you may not believe what they served on >my flight from Houston to Newark which was in first class, it really >was a cheeseburger out of a bag. Hate to tell you but you don't know what you're talking about. >I wasn't commenting on AF business/first class and CO's first class. >My comment about COs first class was factual. I don't know if they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >choice). So since I didn't pay for the flight I wasn't inclined to >complain about the food choice for that evening. If it did happen, it certainly was a food issue, because I fly them all the time in both classes and that's not what they do. I have never had a hamburger served to me on them in anything other than economy. >I have flown oversees on CO and AF. My experience on AF was better. >The food was better, the fact you could walk to the back of the plane >and get yourself a drink, a soda, or even a snack was really nice. >The entertainment system is better, more channels and more choices. I >know that going forward I am definately going to see what options >other than CO are available when I book a trip. Big deal. You can simply ask for something more if you want it. Fly whoever you want, but, if you are an Express employee, you will pay a lot more for flying on AF than CO. And you are obviously also ignorant of the entertainment system upgrade CO has put in most of its aircraft as well. Methinks that CO dumping its stock in Express and renegotiating is contract with them downwards significantly has something to do with your comments. >You real hope in flying coach is that Airbus is flown instead of a >Boeing plane. Airbus's tend to have a bit more room in coach due to >their design. Baloney. You ignorance is overwhelming flying all those Embraers. Each airline decides its seat configurations on both aircraft according to their own standards. See seatguru.com to allay your manifest ignorance. > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:32:12 -0700 (PDT), StephanieM > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hate to tell you but you don't know what you're talking about. Stephanie is correct. On the hub to hub and hub to coast flights of 3 hours or so the food offered in FC during non-meal times is soup, salad (with shrimp) or soup and a hot sandwich. The sandwich offering varies but includes chicken pannini, some sort of pizza ciabatta, and the infamous cheeseburger. > >I wasn't commenting on AF business/first class and CO's first class. > >My comment about COs first class was factual. I don't know if they [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > never had a hamburger served to me on them in anything other than > economy. If in fact you are such a frequent resident of the front of the Continental bus, I'll share with you my last dinner menu from a transcon last Friday. Then perhaps you can share with me yours? Appetizer - lobster claw and tail on a bed of lettuce with lemon and a red (thousand island) sauce Entre - Salmon with a lobster/fish sauce, rice, broccolini Salad - mixed mescula with tomatoes served with a italian vinagrette Wine - a white (chard) of unknown bottler but quite good. Would have had the Uma but I'm a bit of a snob with colors. Dessert: Sundae with strawberry and Baileys up. > >I have flown oversees on CO and AF. My experience on AF was better. > >The food was better, the fact you could walk to the back of the plane [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ignorant of the entertainment system upgrade > CO has put in most of its aircraft as well. There is no video system in the brand new 737 8/9's just delivered this past month or two. Bet you'll argue that this is not true, either. Good luck. >Methinks that CO dumping > its stock in Express and renegotiating is contract with them downwards > significantly has something to do with your comments. Methinks you are an angry old man. al >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:32:12 -0700 (PDT), StephanieM >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >varies but includes chicken pannini, some sort of pizza ciabatta, and >the infamous cheeseburger. I have had only the pannini served to me in FC as a sandwich. The others I have only had in economy on this length routes between Denver and EWR. You're saying that they serve the exact same sandwichs in FC on routes like this which has, well, zero credibility.. >> >I wasn't commenting on AF business/first class and CO's first class. >> >My comment about COs first class was factual. I don't know if they [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Continental bus, I'll share with you my last dinner menu from a >transcon last Friday. Then perhaps you can share with me yours? Sure. I had pretty much exactly the same thing between Houston and Buenos Aires a couple of weeks ago. Anyone can go look up this menu right on line on their website. Big deal. >Appetizer - lobster claw and tail on a bed of lettuce with lemon and a >red (thousand island) sauce [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >this past month or two. Bet you'll argue that this is not true, >either. Good luck. And how do you know you were on one of the new ones being delivered? On the Denver routes I have flown only the smaller 737s don't have the entertainment system on them and they are being phased out. >>Methinks that CO dumping >> its stock in Express and renegotiating is contract with them downwards >> significantly has something to do with your comments. > >Methinks you are an angry old man. Methinks Stephanie should be fired outright for coming here and badmouthing her employer which hardly makes her credible does it? Especially when CO wins award after award year after year from the likes of JD Power and Fortune magazing, though I'm sure she impresses you. Methinks also that if she works works for CO Express like she claims, she makes next to nothing and would be a complete moron spending her less than livable wages on flying on other airlines when she would fly for virtually nothing on CO wouldn't she? I'm sure that impresses you though too. > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT), allan.san...@yahoo.com > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > and EWR. You're saying that they serve the exact same sandwichs in FC > on routes like this which has, well, zero credibility.. Then you learned something new, now didn't you. > >If in fact you are such a frequent resident of the front of the > >Continental bus, I'll share with you my last dinner menu from a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Buenos Aires a couple of weeks ago. Anyone can go look up this menu > right on line on their website. Big deal. And on your last transcon? > >Appetizer - lobster claw and tail on a bed of lettuce with lemon and a > >red (thousand island) sauce [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > And how do you know you were on one of the new ones being delivered? Gee - lets see.......Oh maybe it was the reg plate on the door jamb, the tail number, or what the boss said? Nah - maybe it was the new car smell. > On the Denver routes I have flown only the smaller 737s don't have the > entertainment system on them and they are being phased out. The 5's usually don't. But this was an 8/9. > >>Methinks that CO dumping > >> its stock in Express and renegotiating is contract with them downwards [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > she would fly for virtually nothing on CO wouldn't she? I'm sure that > impresses you though too. Methinks you have had your last conversation with me. al >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT), allan.san...@yahoo.com >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Then you learned something new, now didn't you. That you don't know what you're talking about? >> >If in fact you are such a frequent resident of the front of the >> >Continental bus, I'll share with you my last dinner menu from a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >And on your last transcon? Cheeseburger. Flying economy on CO. Funny coincidence huh? Were you in FC having the same thing? >> >Appetizer - lobster claw and tail on a bed of lettuce with lemon and a >> >red (thousand island) sauce [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Nah - maybe it was the new car smell. And maybe you just made it up like the meal. Funny, CO would be advertising its upgrades to their entertainment systems and would have just forgot to put it on their new 737s isn't it? >> On the Denver routes I have flown only the smaller 737s don't have the >> entertainment system on them and they are being phased out. > >The 5's usually don't. But this was an 8/9. Sure it was. Prove it. >> >>Methinks that CO dumping >> >> its stock in Express and renegotiating is contract with them downwards [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Methinks you have had your last conversation with me. Thank God for little favors. No more fantasies to look at. > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT), allan.san...@yahoo.com > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > she would fly for virtually nothing on CO wouldn't she? I'm sure that > impresses you though too.- Hide quoted text - Actually I quit working for XJET in March, and relocated to another state and started working for another company completely. I honestly would not recommend working for an any airline in any capacity for a long term rewarding career. Many of my former coworkers are having salaries reduced (airlines pay low because of the "wonderful" flight benefits.) I was a senior financial analyst for XJET so I made a living (not a great) wage, and opted not even to try to use the flight benefits for XJET/CO to go to Greece, I was going on a landtour of Greece and wanted to ensure that arrived there at a known time so I could start the tour. I regularly bought my own plane tickets as some of you may know the flight benefits are for standby passengers only. I think in my 18 months working for the company I bought more plane tickets more than I used flight benefits for my own personal travel. You guys may have a very different experience than my experiences in dining choices in first class, and for that I am greatful. I hope that no one else, gets the wonderful cheeseburger sandwhich that I enjoyed. Like I said if I had paid for that ticket I would have been angry and complained. I still feel that any forgien carrier does a better job of feeding you, and there is free alcohol, and the hope you can get in an airbus when you fly in coach is a much better deal than flying on CO. >> Methinks Stephanie should be fired outright for coming here and >> badmouthing her employer which hardly makes her credible does it? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >salaries reduced (airlines pay low because of the "wonderful" flight >benefits.) No one asked you for a recommendation. And no one made you work for them either did they? I'm sure that they're just as happy you're gone as you are to be gone. I know lots of happy airline employees. >I was a senior financial analyst for XJET so I made a living (not a >great) wage, and opted not even to try to use the flight benefits for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >my 18 months working for the company I bought more plane tickets more >than I used flight benefits for my own personal travel. You must have been great at your job, not being able to figure out how to non-rev so you pay much more for your travel. Anyone with half a brain can figure out how to non-rev. >You guys may have a very different experience than my experiences in >dining choices in first class, and for that I am greatful. I hope >that no one else, gets the wonderful cheeseburger sandwhich that I >enjoyed. Like I said if I had paid for that ticket I would have been >angry and complained. Still don't believe that you were served economy food in FC. I daresay I have flown there a lot more than you and never experienced it once. Not once. Though since you were riding free and lasted all of 18months, you are obviously just the disgruntled employee I said you were so who would believe anything you say. Complete ingrate bitching about a free ride. Bet they said good riddance when you left. >I still feel that any forgien carrier does a better job of feeding >you, and there is free alcohol, and the hope you can get in an airbus >when you fly in coach is a much better deal than flying on CO. Go fly PIA then. You'll love it. > >Actually I quit working for XJET in March, and relocated to another > >state and started working for another company completely. I honestly [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > - Show quoted text - My dear that is the best you can hurl my way? Small minds can come up with much original insults than you just did. Maybe you are cheap and enjoy spending hours at airports as flights fill up and your non- reving self gets bumped off the plane. I learned pretty quickly to analyze the available flights, and to determine what my odds were to getting on the flight and making various connections. Maybe you haven't read the news, XJET just lost their CFO, their stock price has erroded from what 3 bucks a share to just over a buck since the begining of the year. I have know that they have lost about 60% of their finance folks since March, hmmm wonder why? XJET is also laying off 20% of their employees. Everyone left is taking a pay cut. Want to ask the folks there if they are happy? Want to ask the folks being laid off from CO, United, and the other many other airline folks that got laid off if they are happy. Well if they have the intelligence you exhibit, I bet they are happy laid off airline employees. I am sure you will try to pin that all on me, wow I chose not to non rev, and took down an airline. Woo Hoo! I don't give a damn if you believe me about the cheeseburger or not. You most likely fly every day, in first class or something. I bet you are a big shot CEO that CO bumps their other rev customers for little sweet a.s. While you don't know me from Adam its great to know you have fully determined how often I fly. I chuckle thinking about how one day you too can bite into that cheeseburger out of the bag while you sit yourself in first class. >> >I still feel that any forgien carrier does a better job of feeding >> >you, and there is free alcohol, and the hope you can get in an airbus [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >analyze the available flights, and to determine what my odds were to >getting on the flight and making various connections. Knowing how to non-rev and read PBTs, I have missed about 4-5 flights in the last 10 years. Obviously, you have no clue how to do that. And when I do spend some time in an airport, it's in a P Club because I had enough brains to buy a lifetime membership a long time ago. You obviously didn't figure that out either did you? >Maybe you haven't read the news, XJET just lost their CFO, their stock >price has erroded from what 3 bucks a share to just over a buck since [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >employees. I am sure you will try to pin that all on me, wow I chose >not to non rev, and took down an airline. Woo Hoo! You haven't anywhere near the brains to do anything close to that. XJET did it to themselves, pretending they could be a separate airline and refusing to renegotiate with CO their exhorbitant fares, so CO dumped them for the most part and has a couple of new regional partners now. They must have hired geniuses like to work for them. And the 90+ percent of the remaining employees, who btw, are the senior ones that actually know what they are doing unlike you, are having major gripes that I have heard. Just the junior no-nothings like you. >I don't give a damn if you believe me about the cheeseburger or not. >You most likely fly every day, in first class or something. I bet you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >one day you too can bite into that cheeseburger out of the bag while >you sit yourself in first class. Anyone stupid enough to claim that CO serves economy food in FC (and it is economy food that I have had many times when I am in economy) and is too dumb to figure out how to non-rev has---well--zero credibility, especially when being an admitted disgruntled ex-employee. Only the complete morons in this ng will pay any attention whatsoever to what you say. >Actually I quit working for XJET in March Ah, a disgruntled employee... >I still feel that any forgien carrier does a better job of feeding >you On a domestic flight? Pray tell, what does AF feed you on domestic flights, and how is it better than CO? >and the hope you can get in an airbus >when you fly in coach is a much better deal than flying on CO. ``If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going'' is a good rule of thumb for jet travel. At least with mainline CO, you are guaranteed a quality American airplane. With furreign carriers, you never know if you are going to end up on some cut-rate French aerobus. >>Actually I quit working for XJET in March > > Ah, a disgruntled employee... As I said... >>I still feel that any forgien carrier does a better job of feeding >>you > > On a domestic flight? Pray tell, what does AF feed you on domestic > flights, and how is it better than CO? How would she know? By her own admission while being able to fly virtually free she could never figure out how to do it so she paid for her tickets. Real bright that. >>and the hope you can get in an airbus >>when you fly in coach is a much better deal than flying on CO. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > American airplane. With furreign carriers, you never know if you are > going to end up on some cut-rate French aerobus. Some airbuses are ok but after the tail flew off the American jet and they knew about the problem I avoid them whenever possible myself. > In article > <f88db4f3-b789-4aac-b443-9bf858a1a6d2@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier than > for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. I flew KLM long haul a few months ago and I was very happy with them. Better in flight service than the US carriers (or indeed British Airways) that I've flown over the past few years. >> In article >> <f88db4f3-b789-4aac-b443-9bf858a1a6d2@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in flight service than the US carriers (or indeed British Airways) that I've > flown over the past few years. I've only flown KLM once and was greatly impressed by the attractiveness of the FA's (as opposed to the surly, haggard old cows on the Delta runs I seem to see more often?) and the light fare offered on the short haul impressed the hell out of me. Lovely simple egg salad or seafood salad sandwiches and a drink passed out quickly on a short flight between Amsterdam and London. >> In article >> <f88db4f3-b789-4aac-b443-9bf858a1a6d2@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >in flight service than the US carriers (or indeed British Airways) that I've >flown over the past few years. If I could only fly one airline today,it would be KLM. They can... and know how to do it in so many ways. > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier than > for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. That is the lamest, most obvious attempt at trolling that I've ever seen. > > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier > > than for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. > > That is the lamest, most obvious attempt at trolling that I've ever > seen. It may be, but anyone who pays extra to fly on a sh.t pot U$A carrier needs their head read big time, IMO. >> > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier >> > than for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >It may be, but anyone who pays extra to fly on a sh.t pot U$A carrier >needs their head read big time, IMO. AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of the line, particularly Malaysian. Any US carrier is third-world by comparison. > AF f.cking GODDAMN! is pretty poor, but it still f.cking FAT JOHNSON! > sh.ts all over any American airline. f.cking BARE-BUM! KLM is great, > hard to fault, f.cking SWING BOTH WAYS! ANAL INTERCOURSE! but Asian > airlines overall are top f.cking f.ck-MEAT! of the line, particularly > Malaysian. f.cking WANG! Any US carrier is third-world by f.cking > BELLY-BUMP! SCREW! comparison. ARSE CURTAINS! BUTT! LOVE MUSCLE! KNOB! >>> > Yes, it's usually worth it to pay a little extra for a US carrier >>> > than for a bottom-of-the-barrel euro carrier like AF or KLM. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >line, particularly Malaysian. Any US carrier is third-world by >comparison. Gee, moron number 2. Anyone making blanket statements like this without discerning between individual carriers is prima facie completely stupid. > >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. > >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > without discerning between individual carriers is prima facie > completely stupid. Gee Moron Number 1, name a few U$ carriers you consider reasonable, so we can all join in. Thanks for being completely irrelevant! >> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Gee Moron Number 1, name a few U$ carriers you consider reasonable, so >we can all join in. Continental moron. Consistently rates as the best US carrier year in and year out by independent surveys. Goes right over your miniscule cerebrum doesn't it? Like the moron who insists that CO's new 737-800s have no entertainment systems when Seatguru says they all do. Just as stupid and wrong as you. >Thanks for being completely irrelevant! You welcome. I always laugh at incompent posters like you with their heads up their a.ses. > Continental moron. Consistently rates as the best US carrier year in > and year out by independent surveys. Goes right over your miniscule > cerebrum doesn't it? Like the moron who insists that CO's new > 737-800s have no entertainment systems when Seatguru says they all do. > Just as stupid and wrong as you. Gulp, Kulp, heavy reply. I presume you have flown Continental? have you flown any other airlines (European, etc.)? >> Continental moron. Consistently rates as the best US carrier year in >> and year out by independent surveys. Goes right over your miniscule [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Gulp, Kulp, heavy reply. Wnet right over your head I'm sure. >I presume you have flown Continental? A lot. >have you flown any other airlines (European, etc.)? Yes, a large number of them, including AF, KL, SK, LH, Alitalia, BA, British Midland, and a number of others. > A lot. > > >have you flown any other airlines (European, etc.)? > > Yes, a large number of them, including AF, KL, SK, LH, Alitalia, BA, > British Midland, and a number of others. Well likewise here - Continental, AF, KLM, BA, Singapore, Qantas, Thai, Air New Zealand, Alitalia, Garuda, PB Air, AA, NW, America West (when it existed) & unfortunately UA. IMO none of the US airlines I have flown are up to the lowest standard of the others mentioned. However, all a matter of opinion. YMMV. Why are you so excited about this? On Jun 19, 3:28 pm, Polly the Parrot <flatulantdi...@deadspam.com> wrote: > > A lot. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Why are you so excited about this? Apparently John doesn't ever want to be wrong. And in case you do decide to read this John, there is no video on the newly delivered 900ERs and they do serve cheesburgers up front as snacks on the mid- distance hub to hubs and hub to coasts. From Flyer Talk: "The newest 737-900ERs are being delivered without any IFE. These planes have a slightly different seating arrangement (29 ABC exist) so they should be readily identifiable on seatmaps once it does go into service." Personally, I have found Virgin Atlantic to offer the best service and amenities in a business class product. I'm particularly impressed by Branson's Clubhouse at Heathrow. Alitalia not so good - especially the lounge at Milpensa. KLM back in the days of the Delft houses (do they still do this) was OK- upper deck. Way back NWA flew the 100 series to Tokyo. The last seat in the back of the upper deck was my favorite for a long time. I gave up on AA about 5 years ago although their 767 service with the personal video systems was quite acceptable. Not so much today, however, with the exception of the Flagship suites. I did enjoy the FC lounge at O'Hare. The one at BOS again not so good. Singapore and Cathay have great accommodations - better than any EU or US carrier. I also think Thai does a great cabin service. JAL isn't high on my list and I have purposely avoided Korean Air. BA's lie flat BC's are the pits - I still can't get the idea of the head to toe stuff. SAS was always consistent on mid-haul EU but transatlantic was not their forte in my opinion. All of my international travel is FC or BC. Most of my domestice, over 95%, is FC so I really can't comment on the back of the bus. I'm sure John can fill in the gaps. Apparently he is quite familiar with the menu options so he likely spends a good deal of time there. CO does an adequate job transcon as well as to EU. I have found the 757 singe aisles to be a bit more intimate and the service a bit more personable than the wide bodies. The FAs a bit worn around the edges but I've noticed that on some EU carriers. I do like the idea of avoiding CDG or LHR if I'm going to Barcelona or EDI - something I can get consistently with CO. I don't do them to the Far East though. Too few options and their partners are not top tier for me. So much for my two cents. One thing I have learned on these newsgroups is that if you don't reply to the idiots they will continue to be idiots but at least not at your expense. al >On Jun 19, 3:28 pm, Polly the Parrot <flatulantdi...@deadspam.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >slightly different seating arrangement (29 ABC exist) so they should >be readily identifiable on seatmaps once it does go into service." And apparently your source is some flying gossip mag rather than any personal experience. Just as I thought. >Personally, I have found Virgin Atlantic to offer the best service and >amenities in a business class product. I'm particularly impressed by >Branson's Clubhouse at Heathrow. Whoopee do! Go fly them then. >Alitalia not so good - especially the lounge at Milpensa. KLM back in >the days of the Delft houses (do they still do this) was OK- upper [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Thai does a great cabin service. JAL isn't high on my list and I have >purposely avoided Korean Air. Somebody gives a sh.t you pompous a.s? >BA's lie flat BC's are the pits - I still can't get the idea of the >head to toe stuff. SAS was always consistent on mid-haul EU but >transatlantic was not their forte in my opinion. With your opinion being worth nothing. >All of my international travel is FC or BC. Most of my domestice, >over 95%, is FC so I really can't comment on the back of the bus. I'm >sure John can fill in the gaps. Apparently he is quite familiar with >the menu options so he likely spends a good deal of time there. Sure it is you pompous a.s. Right after reading the menus off the airlines' websites. Serving drinks in coach is more like it. Send us copies of your boarding passes to prove it. >CO does an adequate job transcon as well as to EU. I have found the >757 singe aisles to be a bit more intimate and the service a bit more [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >get consistently with CO. I don't do them to the Far East though. Too >few options and their partners are not top tier for me. So you can tickle the male flight attendants? >So much for my two cents. One thing I have learned on these >newsgroups is that if you don't reply to the idiots they will continue >to be idiots but at least not at your expense. What a beautiful self description of a pompous a.s whose source of info is menu descriptions on airline websites and flying mag gossips. >>On Jun 19, 3:28 pm, Polly the Parrot <flatulantdi...@deadspam.com> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >And apparently your source is some flying gossip mag rather than any >personal experience. Just as I thought. And never mind that seat guru says you're full of crap as well. >>Personally, I have found Virgin Atlantic to offer the best service and >>amenities in a business class product. I'm particularly impressed by [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >What a beautiful self description of a pompous a.s whose source of >info is menu descriptions on airline websites and flying mag gossips. >> A lot. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thai, Air New Zealand, Alitalia, Garuda, PB Air, AA, NW, America West >(when it existed) & unfortunately UA. Well whoopee for you. >IMO none of the US airlines I have flown are up to the lowest standard >of the others mentioned. A load of crap. There is little to no difference in economy between CO and those you listed except a free drink or two. Singapore and Malaysis yes, but not the others. Thai used to be but has gone down causing a major political flap in Thailand. Which makes fares the main determinant. >However, all a matter of opinion. YMMV. > >Why are you so excited about this? I'm not. I just don't like people posting a lot of rubbish and lies as if they had one clue what they're talking about. > I'm not. I just don't like people posting a lot of rubbish and lies > as if they had one clue what they're talking about. Pot kettle? >> I'm not. I just don't like people posting a lot of rubbish and lies >> as if they had one clue what they're talking about. > >Pot kettle? C'mon genius. Show anything I've said that's wrong. C'mon. > C'mon genius. Show anything I've said that's wrong. C'mon. How do you prove who is wrong or right? All subjective as I said. Any documented proof of your claims? >> C'mon genius. Show anything I've said that's wrong. C'mon. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Any documented proof of your claims? Try reading what I said. I said that anyone can post some meal they claimed they had in First Class because they are posted on at least some airline's website, in this case, Continental's. I posted it so go look at it and see how subjective that is. Second, one idiot claims that the 737-900s that Continental is getting don't have entertainment systems. Of course, he has never flown on one and claims some chat group as his source once I challenged him. Well Seat Guru is the source that everyone I have ever seen used as the authority, so go look and that and see that it clearly shows that all of the CO 737-900s have entertainment system. That subjective too? > Try reading what I said. It seems that all the thread did not come through to my pc. I am only reading aus.politics, and for some reason the thread is here, but I cannot see your comments you just mentioned. (I am not even sure why it should be on this ng). Might be my news feed; might be someone added this newsgroup during a reply? > It f.cking ROT! seems that all the thread f.cking BITS AND PIECES! > MOIST! JACKASS! did not come through to f.cking ANUS! my pc. > ARSE-LOVER! BLADDER! BATTLE-AXE! motherf..ker! BITCHEN! > I f.cking TWAT! am only reading aus.politics, and for f.cking > FUCKHEADS! NIGGER sh.t! some reason the thread is here, f.cking KILL! > WEE! f.cker! LUST SHAFT! but I cannot see your comments f.cking > GANGBANG! you just mentioned. CRAP! ARSE! > (I f.cking c.nt-STRETCHER! FREAKFACE! MURDER! am not even sure why it > f.cking PENIS! should be on this ng). SHITHEAD! GENITAL WARTS! ONE > EYED BASTARD! > Might f.cking SCROTUM! SLAG! be my news feed; f.cking CUM! might be > someone added this f.cking COCKSUCKERS! ASS-HOLE! newsgroup during a > reply? BLOOD SLUG! ARSE LICK! BROWN HOLE! VAGINA! DYKE! > > It f.cking ROT! seems that all the thread f.cking BITS AND PIECES! > > MOIST! JACKASS! did not come through to f.cking ANUS! my pc. > > ARSE-LOVER! BLADDER! BATTLE-AXE! motherf..ker! BITCHEN! Forged posting so obvious, scumbag. Polly the Parrot, ye full-gorged mankind witch, come, you are a tedious fool, ye sighed: /P/erversely /O/versized /L/ick-spigot. /L/oudmouthed /Y/ellow-stream queer who likes /T/asteless /H/ose humping with /E/lks. /P/assive /A/rse-lover who likes /R/evolting /R/eproductive fluid exchanges with /O/tters. /T/ime waster. > Polly the Parrot, ye full-gorged mankind witch, come, you are a > tedious fool, ye sighed: Forged post from a loser, no doubt. Polly the Parrot, ye hunch-backed old white-bearded satan, the wicked fire of lust have melted thou in thine own grease, ye groveled: > Please don't make me laugh. My calipers pinch my head and it hurts. >> > It f.cking ROT! seems that all the thread f.cking BITS AND PIECES! >> > MOIST! JACKASS! did not come through to f.cking ANUS! my pc. >> > ARSE-LOVER! BLADDER! BATTLE-AXE! motherf..ker! BITCHEN! > >Forged posting so obvious, scumbag. There's always a bunch of juvenile morons lurking about the ngs thinking they're cute posting crap like this when they just--well--stupid juveniles in need of a life. > >Forged posting so obvious, scumbag. > > There's always a bunch of juvenile morons lurking about the ngs > thinking they're cute posting crap like this when they > just--well--stupid juveniles in need of a life. Agree. Probably need medical help as well. I see in today's news that UA & Continental are to "co-operate" (whatever that means?) and code share. Hope it is not a case of water finding its own level; i.e. Continental coming down to UA. >> >Forged posting so obvious, scumbag. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Hope it is not a case of water finding its own level; i.e. Continental >coming down to UA. It's a great deal for CO. Has many of the benefits of a merger with none of the disadvantages. CO will stay CO and UA wil be UA. Unlike a merger, which could have brought the whole thing down. >> Try reading what I said. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Might be my news feed; might be someone added this newsgroup during a >reply? Might be. I don't know as I didn't start the thread. >>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Continental moron. .> Consistently rates as the best US carrier year in >and year out by independent surveys. "the best US carrier". <snicker> That's not exactly a recommendation. HTH >>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >That's not exactly a recommendation. Not to a dimwit like you. Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: >>"the best US carrier". <snicker> >> >>That's not exactly a recommendation. > > Not to a dimwit like you. "Dave Witmarsh" is Rick Mathers, a disgraced and disgruntled former American, now living in Oz. "Dickless Ricky" lost his genitals in a motorcycle accident. He spends what's left of his life laming on usenet. Dickless loves to add unrelated news groups to his replies. Signature"And idiots begat fools, and fools begat morons, and morons begat imbeciles, and imbeciles begat dufuses. And then dopes like Nick, Assthrobby and Groggy realized they could do this with people outside their immediate families..." > Waiving the right to remain silent, john_k...@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He spends what's left of his life laming on usenet. Dickless loves to add > unrelated news groups to his replies. He's funny. Which puts him polar opposite of you. >> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_k...@hotmail.com (John Kulp) sai= >d: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >He's funny. Which puts him polar opposite of you. Yeah he's a riot with an IQ matching yours. About 12. :>On Jun 20, 10:50 am, Larry in AZ <usen...@DELETE.THISljvideo.com> :>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] :> :>He's funny. No he's not. We can't trust any of them. The "somebody" who keeps blocking the Imageshack link to fat kenny's picture has fixed it so all my pictures are gone. Don't worry I can get everything back. My last email came back blocked. Lumpy please don't block me. You can keep all the gifts and I promise not to mention any other stuff you told me. > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:35:22 -0700 (PDT), "Lumpy's Carbon Footprint" > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > came back blocked. Lumpy please don't block me. You can keep all the > gifts and I promise not to mention any other stuff you told me. How can you devolve any further? Whoever you are. :>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:35:22 -0700 (PDT), "Lumpy's Carbon Footprint" :>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] :> :>How can you devolve any further? Whoever you are. Another Ken/Sarah forgery. The real Lumpy poster did not write the above, folks. You play juvenile nasty tricks on Usenet, hoping to "wind up" people you haven't a clue as to who they are. Get some mental health counseling. You're a mess ... SignatureAs of the day this message is being posted there are, lacking an unexpected alternate outcome, 213 days remaining in the imperial presidency of George W. Bush >> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_k...@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >He's funny. Which puts him polar opposite of you. Poo La Larry is *still* sitting in his trailer obsessing over me? Sad, sad, sad... >>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >>>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Not to a dimwit like you. "the best US carrier". <snicker> > >>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. > >>>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > "the best US carrier". <snicker> Tell us about the "worst"! >> >>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >> >>>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Tell us about the "worst"! Take your pick between UA and US >>>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. >>>>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > "the best US carrier". <snicker> My first commercial flight was on BEA, in a Vickers Viscount turbo-jet. The silly f.cker had portholes instead of windows. Er, BEA = Brutish European Airline - long forgotten.... > >>>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American airline. > >>>>>> >KLM is great, hard to fault, but Asian airlines overall are top of [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > silly f.cker had portholes instead of windows. Er, BEA = Brutish European > Airline - long forgotten.... The Brits learned from the Comet (the first commercial jet airliner) that square windows can cause metal fatigue in pressurized aircraft. The yanks of course waited until the Brits had made all the basic mistakes in modern aircraft design before attempting to create one - yes, there are some advantages to your national technical retardation. My first commercial flight was on an NAC Viscount. It was vastly ahead of those damned DC3s that were the best the US could muster at the time. Greg.P. >> >>>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American >> >>>>>> >airline. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Greg.P. You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. The DC-3 was and still is the most successful airplane the world has ever seen. There are still around 400 in service. Vickers Viscounts? > >> >>>>>> >AF is pretty poor, but it still sh.ts all over any American > >> >>>>>> >airline. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > The DC-3 was and still is the most successful airplane the world has ever > seen. There are still around 400 in service. Vickers Viscounts? Sure it's up there amongst the most successful aircraft - but have you flown in one? Would you want to do a trans-Atlantic flight in one? They are like (I imagine) rattling around in an in-use snare-drum at a heavy metal convention. It's like riding a badly worn loaner Harley home while the BMW is in for service. >> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >It's like riding a badly worn loaner Harley home while the BMW is in for >service. There are 3 Viscounts still in service according to Wikipedia. Speaks for itself doesn't it? Only Proctologist would come up with some nonsense like this in the jet age. Just everyone would really like to lumber along up and down across the Atlantic in either one of these crates. And just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber. >>> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > lumber along up and down across the Atlantic in either one of these > crates. And just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber. The one I flew went from Frankfort to London. We arrived there shortly before dusk. The pilot asked for a show of hands of all in no great hurry. He then flew figure 8's for twenty minutes past arrival time so we could see London lights come on. That may explain why BEA is no more.... > >> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > for itself doesn't it? Only Proctologist would come up with some > nonsense like this in the jet age. My book said four - I guess either one has gone in the meantime or Wikipaedia is wrong. What-ever, that's near enough. Proportionately the remainder is close. Douglas built the right plane for 1934 after 2 abortive tries (DC1 and DC2) and it was well out of date by 1939. It just happened to still be in the design book when the US urgently needed a transport plane from 1941. Vickers built the right plane for 1954 without any abortive tries but it was out of date by 1959 when air transport was snowballing. Fortunately there wasn't a World War in 1961 so tens of thousands weren't built as military transport planes. > Just everyone would really like to > lumber along up and down across the Atlantic in either one of these > crates. And just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber. >> >> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Wikipaedia is wrong. What-ever, that's near enough. >Proportionately the remainder is close. 3 are in service and 1 is sitting around somewhere. >Douglas built the right plane for 1934 after 2 abortive tries (DC1 and >DC2) and it was well out of date by 1939. It just happened to still be >in the design book when the US urgently needed a transport plane from >1941. Sure, that's why 13,000 were built and 400+ are still in service. Because it was out of date by 1939. Don't have a clue do you? >Vickers built the right plane for 1954 without any abortive tries but it >was out of date by 1959 when air transport was snowballing. Fortunately >there wasn't a World War in 1961 so tens of thousands weren't built as >military transport planes. Then why are over 400 still in service 47 years after 1961 then? DC3s that is. >> Just everyone would really like to >> lumber along up and down across the Atlantic in either one of these >> crates. And just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber. You did. I never heard of anyone crossing the Atlantic in a DC3 since WWII, but that passes you right by doesn't it genius? > >> >> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Sure, that's why 13,000 were built and 400+ are still in service. > Because it was out of date by 1939. Don't have a clue do you? Actually, yes I do - which leaves you in the totally clueless category. Technology moved on - Douglas moved on to the DC4 etc. > >Vickers built the right plane for 1954 without any abortive tries but it > >was out of date by 1959 when air transport was snowballing. Fortunately [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Then why are over 400 still in service 47 years after 1961 then? DC3s > that is. Because (and I very much doubt that 400 are still in service today after the total got down to 250 fifteen years ago) the design was put back into production for WWII transport, being the most appropriate design the US had for those requirements. <sheesh> > >> Just everyone would really like to > >> lumber along up and down across the Atlantic in either one of these > >> crates. And just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber. > > You did. I never heard of anyone crossing the Atlantic in a DC3 since > WWII, but that passes you right by doesn't it genius? Hmmm, so people have flown the Atlantic in DC3s - a fact that flew right past you. >> >> >> You've done it again. You know jack sh.t about airplanes. >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >Actually, yes I do - which leaves you in the totally clueless category. >Technology moved on - Douglas moved on to the DC4 etc. Sure genius. The world moved on and the DC3s are still flying moron. >> >Vickers built the right plane for 1954 without any abortive tries but it >> >was out of date by 1959 when air transport was snowballing. Fortunately [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >into production for WWII transport, being the most appropriate design >the US had for those requirements. Who cares what you doubt. You still haven't posted one source for your babbling and no one's interested in your stupid fantasies. Do you really think that just repeateding the same old crap with no proof gives you any credibility? Idiot. ><sheesh> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Hmmm, so people have flown the Atlantic in DC3s - a fact that flew right >past you. We're talking about now moron. You're the only one living in the 1940s. > Sure genius. The world moved on and the DC3s are still flying moron. I bet your mother has a loud bark. > Who cares what you doubt. You still haven't posted one source for > your babbling and no one's interested in your stupid fantasies. Do > you really think that just repeateding the same old crap with no proof > gives you any credibility? Idiot. I saw that the first time, I was just ignoring you. > We're talking about now moron. You're the only one living in the > 1940s. I don't want you to turn the other cheek. It's just as ugly. Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: >>Because (and I very much doubt that 400 are still in service today after >>the total got down to 250 fifteen years ago) the design was put back [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you really think that just repeateding the same old crap with no proof > gives you any credibility? Idiot. Perhaps not, but it insures Groggy's standing as the dopiest Noo Squealander to ever post on usenet. Signature"And idiots begat fools, and fools begat morons, and morons begat imbeciles, and imbeciles begat dufuses. And then dopes like Nick, Assthrobby and Groggy realized they could do this with people outside their immediate families..." > Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) > said: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Perhaps not, but it insures Groggy's standing as the dopiest Noo Squealander > to ever post on usenet. Good old Larry, standing up for yanks posting unsourced assertions of their stupidity! >> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) >> said: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Good old Larry, standing up for yanks posting unsourced assertions of >their stupidity! The only yanker around here is you w.nker. Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: >>> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) >>> said: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > The only yanker around here is you w.nker. As opposed to a Nee Zoolander imbecile who makes constant claims with NO sources. SignatureLarry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail "A lack of common sense is now considered a disability, with all the privileges that this entails." > Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) > said: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > As opposed to a Nee Zoolander imbecile who makes constant claims with NO > sources. Seth and John Kulpable made the claims without reference to a source - I merely pointed out their stupidity. > >> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) > >> said: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > The only yanker around here is you w.nker. So, you admit you have no source for your crap figures - fair point. >Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) >said: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Perhaps not, but it insures Groggy's standing as the dopiest Noo Squealander >to ever post on usenet. He does moan a lot doesn't he? All while constantly avoiding putting up any proof for what he says. Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said: >>Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) >>said: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > He does moan a lot doesn't he? All while constantly avoiding putting > up any proof for what he says. Did you catch it a few months ago when "Mr Travel" ripped him a new a.shole..? BTW - it's "Dave Witmarsh," the disgraced American expat Dickless Ricky Mathers, who crossposts this crap into rec.travel. Signature"And idiots begat fools, and fools begat morons, and morons begat imbeciles, and imbeciles begat dufuses. And then dopes like Nick, Assthrobby and Groggy realized they could do this with people outside their immediate families..." |
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