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UAL Scraps Free Coach Meals on Some Overseas Flights

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Duh_OZ - 21 Aug 2008 18:23 GMT
From the read it looks like just (international) flights from Dulles
and excludes Kuwait

Link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a2hssF7MnyXo&refer=home

Snip:
Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) -- United Airlines, struggling to curb losses
from record fuel prices, will become the first U.S. carrier to stop
serving free meals in the coach cabin of some overseas flights.

Instead, the second-largest U.S. carrier will offer food that can be
purchased aboard trips to Europe from Washington's Dulles
International Airport starting Oct. 1, spokeswoman Robin Urbanski said
today in an interview.

The change expands the list of formerly complimentary services
airlines are charging for as they combat a 52 percent jump in the
price of jet fuel during the past year. United parent UAL Corp., with
net losses of almost $3.32 billion in the past three quarters, is
eliminating 7,000 jobs and parking 100 aircraft to cut operating
costs.

``International flights have historically been sacrosanct from these
kinds of charges,'' David Stempler, president of the Air Travelers
Association passenger advocacy group, said in an interview. ``This is
the new era of a fee for every service. We should get used to it.''

United won't eliminate free coach meals on travel from Dulles to
Kuwait because the flight is about 12 hours instead of the typical 8
to 9 hours to Europe, Urbanski said. Dulles is United's ``gateway'' to
Europe, with about 33 daily international flights. Food in first and
business classes will remain free.
John Doe - 23 Aug 2008 07:05 GMT
> Instead, the second-largest U.S. carrier will offer food that can be
> purchased aboard trips to Europe from Washington's Dulles
> International Airport starting Oct. 1, spokeswoman Robin Urbanski said
> today in an interview.

They are testing the waters. They'll produce skewed survery results
showing passengers really like the new menu and roll out that policy to
all their flights.

Now, if, for say $15, one could get the same meals as what they serve in
first class or business, then this might be worth it. But if for $15
they sell you sh.t that costs them $5.00 then it isn't worth it.

If none of the airlines emulate UA's moves, then UA will very quitly
stop charging for meals on those test flights. But the publicity may be
deadly for UA. People will consider that all intl flights are without
meal services and avoid UA.

This may be good news for Star Alliance airlines since those with UA FF
points may choose non-UA  Star flights to get to europe.
jessica_smith_nyc - 23 Aug 2008 17:39 GMT
I've always wondered why airlines don't have restaurants bid for
partner and advertising deals to get extra revenue......I'm sure maybe
even painting the plane wouldn't be out of the question......imagine
Subway, Quiznos, Pizza Hut, KFC, or McDonalds being served on your
flight......I bet most people wouldn't mind.

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> From the read it looks like just (international) flights from Dulles
> and excludes Kuwait
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> Europe, with about 33 daily international flights. Food in first and
> business classes will remain free.
John Kulp - 23 Aug 2008 17:47 GMT
>I've always wondered why airlines don't have restaurants bid for
>partner and advertising deals to get extra revenue......I'm sure maybe
>even painting the plane wouldn't be out of the question......imagine
>Subway, Quiznos, Pizza Hut, KFC, or McDonalds being served on your
>flight......I bet most people wouldn't mind.

Sure and then get routinely sued everytime someone claimed food
poisoning.

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>> Europe, with about 33 daily international flights. Food in first and
>> business classes will remain free.
Larry in AZ - 23 Aug 2008 19:26 GMT
Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said:

>>I've always wondered why airlines don't have restaurants bid for
>>partner and advertising deals to get extra revenue......I'm sure maybe
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Sure and then get routinely sued everytime someone claimed food
> poisoning.

It's been done.  Can't remember which, but a major airline I flew a few years
back was serving Blimpie sandwiches.

Fact is that airlines contract out their food service, so would it really
matter whether or not it's a recognizable chain doing it..?

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John Kulp - 23 Aug 2008 19:44 GMT
>Waiving the right to remain silent, john_kulp@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Fact is that airlines contract out their food service, so would it really
>matter whether or not it's a recognizable chain doing it..?

First, all the airlines hardly contract out their food service.
Continental, for example, owns Chelsea which does its catering.

Second, most contract another airlines catering service to provide
theirs, such as Chelsea or Lufthansa's not chains like McDonald's,
etc.  That way, they know they are getting what the owning airline
serves its own passengers.
Kurt Ullman - 23 Aug 2008 21:04 GMT
> Fact is that airlines contract out their food service, so would it really
> matter whether or not it's a recognizable chain doing it..?

Is that contracted out by airline or is this a deal with the individual
airports and the airlines are stuck with it. Sorta like the fixed base
operator for their fuel.
mgrahm@trib.com - 24 Aug 2008 18:52 GMT
On Aug 23, 12:26 pm, Larry in AZ <usen...@DELETE.THISljvideo.com>
wrote:
> Waiving the right to remain silent, john_k...@hotmail.com (John Kulp) said:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> It's been done.  Can't remember which, but a major airline I flew a few years
> back was serving Blimpie sandwiches.

I think it was Great Plains Airlines. The link show that they served
Krispy Kreme Donuts on their morning flights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plains_Airlines

M. Graham
Jim Davis - 23 Aug 2008 22:56 GMT
>I've always wondered why airlines don't have restaurants bid for
>partner and advertising deals to get extra revenue............imagine
>Subway, Quiznos, Pizza Hut, KFC, or McDonalds being served on your
>flight......I bet most people wouldn't mind.

Where would the deep fryer go?

>I'm sure maybe even painting the plane wouldn't be out of the question.

More paint = more weight.  (More than some people think.)
 
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