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aviationjlr - 23 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT
TSA Broke Privacy Laws

The Transportation Security Administration violated privacy protections
by secretly collecting personal information on at least 250,000 people,
congressional investigators said Friday.

The Government Accountability Office sent a letter to Congress saying
the collection violated the Privacy Act, which prohibits the government
from compiling information on people without their knowledge.

The information was collected as the agency tested a program, now
called Secure Flight, to conduct computerized checks of airline
passengers against terrorist watch lists.

TSA had promised it would only use the limited information about
passengers that it had obtained from airlines. Instead, the agency and
its contractors compiled files on people using data from commercial
brokers and then compared those files with the lists.

The GAO reported that about 100 million records were collected.

The 1974 Privacy Act requires the government to notify the public when
it collects information about people. It must say who it's gathering
information about, what kinds of information, why it's being collected
and how the information is stored.

And to protect people from having misinformation about them in their
files, the government must also disclose how they can access and
correct the data it has collected.

Before it began testing Secure Flight, the TSA published notices in
September and November saying that it would collect from airlines
information about people who flew commercially in June 2004.

Instead, the agency actually took 43,000 names of passengers and used
about 200,000 variations of those names - who turned out to be real
people who may not have flown that month, the GAO said. A TSA
contractor collected 100 million records on those names.

Justin Oberman, the TSA official in charge of Secure Flight, said that
was a highly instructive test.

"When you cannot distinguish one John Smith from another, you're going
to get records from John Smiths who aren't boarding flights on an order
of magnitude we can't handle," Oberman said.

He said the testing is designed to find out what kind of data airlines
will need to get - such as passengers' birthdates - so they can
turn it over to the government to check against watch lists.

The GAO letter said that the TSA also said originally that it wouldn't
use and store commercial data about airline passengers. It not only did
that, it collected and stored information about the people with similar
names.

"As a result, an unknown number of individuals whose personal
information was collected were not notified as to how they might access
or amend their personal data," the letter said.

It was only after meeting with the GAO, which is overseeing the
program, that the TSA published a second notice indicating that it
would do the things it had earlier said it wouldn't do.

Oberman said it's not unusual to revise such notices.

"We are conducting a test," he said. "I didn't know what the
permutations would be."

Oberman also said that the test has no impact on anyone who travels and
that the data will be destroyed when the test is over.

Friday's GAO letter shed new light on how the TSA expanded the testing
of Secure Flight well beyond its original scope and why it had to
publish the second notice.

The letter drew a sharp rebuke from Senate Homeland Security Committee
chairman Susan Collins, R-Maine, and the ranking Democrat, Joe
Lieberman of Connecticut, in a letter to Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff dated Friday.

"Careless missteps such as this jeopardize the public trust and DHS'
ability to deploy a much-needed, new system," the letter said, citing
the project's "unfortunate history."
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nobody - 23 Jul 2005 17:38 GMT
> TSA Broke Privacy Laws
>
> The Transportation Security Administration violated privacy protections
> by secretly collecting personal information on at least 250,000 people,
> congressional investigators said Friday.

There is nothing secret about the fact that any and all government agencies
are collecting information on people. And while access to the no fly list is
restricted and the agencies won't reveal who is in and why, it is well known
that it exists.

Your elected representatives just renewed the Patriot Act, the very law that
grants immunity to so many agencies to collect information on people. You
elected those people. You get what you asked for.

Those who think that the government is abusing the constitution only need to
go to the supreme court and challenge the government. If nobody does it, then
it is the equivalent of people agreeing with what the government is doing.

Until your police state removes the right of the people to go to the supreme
court to challenge the governmenmt, the people cannot complain about the acts
of the government they elected since they still have legal recourse.

It is pretty amazxing that one government, over a period of 8 years, will have
entrenched so many changes to the USA country and culture and mentality,
dramatically changing it.
Rog' - 23 Jul 2005 18:13 GMT
> > aviationjlr wrote:  TSA Broke Privacy Laws
> There is nothing secret about the fact that any and all government
> agencies are collecting information on people. And while access
> to the no fly list is restricted and the agencies won't reveal who is
> in and why, it is well known that it exists.
> Your elected representatives just renewed the Patriot Act,...

Patriot Act renewal is still pending in Congress.  The U.S. Privacy
Act is still in effect and governement agencies are still bound by its
requirements.  That's not to say that government agenies actually
give a damn about privacy rights, but at least violations of the law
still get noticed.  =R=
Stan  Horwitz - 24 Jul 2005 14:34 GMT
> > > aviationjlr wrote:  TSA Broke Privacy Laws
> > There is nothing secret about the fact that any and all government
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> give a damn about privacy rights, but at least violations of the law
> still get noticed.  =R=

Such violations get noticed just so that impression is given by the feds
that they care about such things. You have masses of Americans who have
no problem giving up other people's rights to privacy, but they do not
realize their rights are also being sacrificed.

Rush Limbaugh is a prime example of someone who loves to give away the
rights of others. In court, Rush protests that his privacy rights were
violated, yet he shouts out loud and clear that he supports those
politicians who allow our rights to be trampled. Remember that Bush's
favorite Supreme Court Justices, such as Justice Scalia and Thomas,
assert that there is no such thing as a right to privacy. If that
doesn't frighten people, I don't know what will.
rk - 23 Jul 2005 22:07 GMT
Police state?  Did you say police state, Mezei?

Excellent point, let's see what Amnesty International has to say about police
states!

Do have a good day, Sir!

-- rk

p.s. And you of all people should not be talking about privacy protections, as
you "sneek, peek, and tell" about guys' "private parts" that you secretly
study in the locker room.  Now, it looks like the US Government is going to
issue a revised notice of what they are doing.  Did you tell these guys that
you were going to describe their "private parts" in misc.kids???????

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<amnesty international>

http://www.adilinfo.org/appuis/amnestyletter.htm

Over the past several years Amnesty International has, on numerous occasions,
written to the Canadian government, highlighting individual cases in which we
considered that the security certificate process was resulting in violations
of a number of fundamental human rights. We are aware of at least six
individuals who are currently being held pursuant to security certificates.
These individuals have been in detention for an extended period now, close to
four years in one case.

We repeat Amnesty International's concerns below and urge that you take
immediate steps to reform the security certificate process to bring it into
full compliance with Canada's international human rights obligations. In doing
so we remind the government that the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
itself, in s. 3(3)(f), requires that the law be "construed and applied in a
manner that complies with international human rights instruments to which
Canada is a signatory."

UNFAIR PROCEEDINGS

Amnesty International is of the view that the security certificate process may
very well result in arbitrary detention and thus violate the fundamental right
to liberty. The process does not conform to a number of essential
international legal standards, which are meant to safeguard against the very
possibility of arbitrary detention. Detainees are not informed of the precise
allegations against them. They see only a summary of the evidence that is
being used against them. Evidence may be presented in court in the absence of
the detainee or his or her counsel.

</amnesty international>

>> TSA Broke Privacy Laws
>>
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> have entrenched so many changes to the USA country and culture and
> mentality, dramatically changing it.

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rk

Gregory Morrow - 25 Jul 2005 01:30 GMT
> Police state?  Did you say police state, Mezei?
>
> Excellent point, let's see what Amnesty International has to say about police
> states!
>
> Do have a good day, Sir!

Can't the authorities doing *something* about this Mezei pervert!?

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Greg

> -- rk
>
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> > have entrenched so many changes to the USA country and culture and
> > mentality, dramatically changing it.
Darryl - 28 Jul 2005 19:13 GMT
> Those who think that the government is abusing the constitution only need to
> go to the supreme court and challenge the government. If nobody does it, then
> it is the equivalent of people agreeing with what the government is doing.

If you've actually been wronged.  I believe you actually have to be one
of those people the TSA gathered information on in order to file a
court case (which is pretty hard to prove when the proceedings are
entirely secret).

> Until your police state removes the right of the people to go to the supreme
> court to challenge the governmenmt, the people cannot complain about the acts
> of the government they elected since they still have legal recourse.

You mean unless you have several hundred thousand dollars in pocket
money to hire legal representation, & the willingness to give up your
day job & family life for several years so you can win back in court a
guaranteed civil right that should have been yours already by
birthright, you have no right to complain when that right is taken
away?

That's an interesting interpretation of "freedom".

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these
ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely
to effect their Safety and Happiness [...] But when a long train of
abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a
design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it
is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security." - Declaration of Independence
 
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