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What's the cheapest way to get from Latin America to South Africa?

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Rubber Ducky - 28 Aug 2005 12:32 GMT
I would like to go from Lima (Peru) to Cape Town (SA) but this works out at
2,800 GBP.  If I go out of/into a different airport does anyone know how I
can make this cheaper?

Thanks
RD
Jason Fisher - 28 Aug 2005 14:15 GMT
Hi, you might want to buy 2 tickets and go via New York JFK.
(You would probably have to get a transit visa - dont know how easy that
would be)

Lima - JFK on LAN Airlines is £400 return

JFK - Cape Town on British Airways (change at London) is £950 return.

checked on expedia.co.uk for departures on 8th October

I would allow a good amount of time for connections at JFK  (4 hours minimum
and preferably stay overnight if you can get an entry visa)

>I would like to go from Lima (Peru) to Cape Town (SA) but this works out at
> 2,800 GBP.  If I go out of/into a different airport does anyone know how I
> can make this cheaper?
>
> Thanks
> RD
Rubber Ducky - 28 Aug 2005 14:20 GMT
I should have stated I would want a one-way trip, not a return.

> Hi, you might want to buy 2 tickets and go via New York JFK.
> (You would probably have to get a transit visa - dont know how easy that
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> > Thanks
> > RD
tim (moved to sweden) - 28 Aug 2005 15:13 GMT
>I should have stated I would want a one-way trip, not a return.

In that case then, buy a return and throw the second part
away.  It is almost always going to be cheaper.

tim
Frank F. Matthews - 28 Aug 2005 19:41 GMT
>>I should have stated I would want a one-way trip, not a return.
>
> In that case then, buy a return and throw the second part
> away.  It is almost always going to be cheaper.
>
> tim

No No No.  Do not throw away the return ticket.  Send them a note that
you got stuck in traffic & missed your flight.  You are then so
distressed on losing the nonrefundable ticket and had to hitchhike back
on a boat.
Rubber Ducky - 28 Aug 2005 19:48 GMT
> No No No.  Do not throw away the return ticket.  Send them a note that
> you got stuck in traffic & missed your flight.  You are then so
> distressed on losing the nonrefundable ticket and had to hitchhike back
> on a boat.

Seriously what would happen if you did 'miss' your return flight?  Refund?
tim (moved to sweden) - 28 Aug 2005 20:23 GMT
>> No No No.  Do not throw away the return ticket.  Send them a note that
>> you got stuck in traffic & missed your flight.  You are then so
>> distressed on losing the nonrefundable ticket and had to hitchhike back
>> on a boat.
>
> Seriously what would happen if you did 'miss' your return flight?  Refund?

You get back the difference in cost between the fare paid and
the one for the journey made :-(.

tim
Rubber Ducky - 28 Aug 2005 20:52 GMT
> You get back the difference in cost between the fare paid and
> the one for the journey made :-(.

But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it be a
double bonus??
tim (moved to sweden) - 28 Aug 2005 21:09 GMT
>> You get back the difference in cost between the fare paid and
>> the one for the journey made :-(.
>
> But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it be a
> double bonus??

????

tim
Rubber Ducky - 28 Aug 2005 21:13 GMT
> > But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it be a
> > double bonus??
>
> ????

Single from Timbuktoo to Bemuda = 600 GBP for example
Return from Timbuktoo to Bemuda = 500 GBP for example

You only require a one-way trip.  So you buy a return ticket for 500 GBP and
phone the airport saying you've missed your return.  They refund you 1/2 the
cost of the ticket = 250 GBP therefore a single trip worked out at 250GBP
not 600 GBP.

Bargain?  Feasible?
Michael - 28 Aug 2005 23:57 GMT
>> > But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
>> > be
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Bargain?  Feasible?

Almost all cheap tickets are non-refundable. If you miss the flight the
airline won't care what the reason is - they won't give you your money back.
Frank F. Matthews - 29 Aug 2005 02:48 GMT
>>>>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
>>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Almost all cheap tickets are non-refundable. If you miss the flight the
> airline won't care what the reason is - they won't give you your money back.

That's the point.  They claim that throwing away the return is a
violation of the contract.  However if you simply manage to miss the
flight then there is no refund and you are left to make your way back on
your own.
Rubber Ducky - 29 Aug 2005 09:20 GMT
> >>>>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
> >>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> flight then there is no refund and you are left to make your way back on
> your own.

Could I not give the spare return ticket to a stranger who could pay to have
the names changed?
tim (moved to sweden) - 29 Aug 2005 17:43 GMT
>>>>>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
>>>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> of the contract.  However if you simply manage to miss the flight then
> there is no refund and you are left to make your way back on your own.

If you actually turn up at the airport in a way that suggests you
really *did* accidentally miss the flight [1] the airline will often
rebook you at a nominal fee.

Of course, this isn't what the poster wanted to do.

tim

[1]  I.e 10 minutes late with a plausable story.
Or a day late on an overnight flight :-(.  I've seen dozens of
people do this with train reservations, I guess it must happen
with planes.
Miss L. Toe - 29 Aug 2005 23:14 GMT
> >>>>>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
> >>>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> people do this with train reservations, I guess it must happen
> with planes.

Or 12 hours late - mistaking am for pm together with floods of tears.
(It wasn't me - honest - just someone I know)
Frank F. Matthews - 30 Aug 2005 04:04 GMT
>>>>>>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
>>>>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> people do this with train reservations, I guess it must happen
> with planes.

But I'm sure that he didn't know that.  Their policy said that the
ticket is non refundable.  That means that if you miss the flight you
lose to me and perhaps to him.  He just gave up.
tim (moved to sweden) - 29 Aug 2005 17:39 GMT
>> > But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it
>> > be
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the
> cost of the ticket

But that's not what I said.

I said the amount you paid minus what you should have paid

500-600, so you get a refund of minus 100.

tim
KGB - 29 Aug 2005 14:00 GMT
>> You get back the difference in cost between the fare paid and
>> the one for the journey made :-(.
>
>But if the return fare was cheaper than the single anyway wouldn't it be a
>double bonus??

Hi

Slightly off topic, but in February this year I reserved a (compact)
rental car from Hertz (UK) for a 4 week vacation in the USA which I am
due to take shortly (I like booking well in advance).  The deal
however required me to pay in full at time of booking.  At the same
time, I also sent away for a "driving in the USA" leaflet from Hertz -
which arrived some considerable time later with a promise of a 10%
discount off my next rental.  Out of curiosity I then checked the
Hertz website and noticed that - presumably because of the
pound/dollar exchange rate - the rental charges had plummeted.

Thinking "nothing ventured, nothing gained" I phoned Hertz and asked
if the £22 cancellation charge applied if I merely wanted to upgrade
to a larger (full size) car; they said no, that would be free of
charge.  I then asked if I could possibly apply the 10% discount to my
present booking; and they said, errrr!! Suppose so.

I said OK then - to which they replied, "Certainly sir, no problem -
oh wait a minute.  That means that we actually owe you money for the
upgrade.  We will refund the difference to your credit card."

Larger car and a refund - definitely a double bonus!!!!

Regards
KGB
Retired - 28 Aug 2005 17:14 GMT
> Hi, you might want to buy 2 tickets and go via New York JFK.
> (You would probably have to get a transit visa - dont know how easy that
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> What about Malaysia Airlines non-stop BUE > CPT ????

retired/uk.
carlosac@my-deja.com - 29 Aug 2005 23:26 GMT
Try via Madrid.
Lima  - Madrid  with Iberia or Air Madrid (they are a new low cost
intercontinental spanish airline, some people don't speak very well
about them) .
And Madrid - South Africa with Iberia.
Check return fares, probably they will ber cheaper than one way.
Carlos A.
 
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