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Travel Forum / Travel Types / Air Travel / November 2005Any domestic flights from Dubai?
Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) Emirates: would people regard such a journey as international travel? > Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the > time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) > Emirates: would people regard such a journey as international travel? Gulf Air flies AUH-DXB, but it would not be considered an international flight. The emirates are members of a single sovereign federation. Not sure what your scale of tiny is: Abu Dhabi is about the size of Vermont, New Hampshire and Massachusetts combined, while Dubai is roughly Rhode Island sized. Cheers, George W. Russell Bangalore > Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the > time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) > Emirates: would people regard such a journey as international travel? I am pretty sure there are flights there from New York's JFK. I am sure if you do a google search, you can find what you're looking for. >>Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the >>time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) >>Emirates: would people regard such a journey as international travel? > > I am pretty sure there are flights there from New York's JFK. I am sure > if you do a google search, you can find what you're looking for. How is a flight from JRK to Dubai a domestic flight? > >>Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the > >>time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How is a flight from JRK to Dubai a domestic flight? I assume the OP wanted a direct flight that departed from the USA, but that assumption may be wrong. I think he was asking if there were any flights from Dubai (DXB) to any of the other emirates, such as Abu Dhabi. Besides the Gulf Air flight to Abu Dhabi, there are a number of flights a day to Qatar and Bahrain, over 300km away. I understand that these are not part of the UAE (although they originally signed the charter in 1968 that formed the federation, but pulled out over differences, choosing to go at it alone), but they are relatively close, similar to Philadelphia and New York, and if an agreement among GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) members such as the Schlengen Agreement in the EU allowing freedom of travel within member states without border or customs restrictions were to ever pass, would be just a passport-free ride away. > [snip] ... if an agreement among GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) members > such as the Schlengen Agreement in the EU allowing freedom of travel > within member states without border or customs restrictions were to > ever pass, would be just a passport-free ride away. There are some relaxations in place. Visas on arrival at DOH - which can paid for with a credit card - are marked in English, confusingly, "Allowed to entry to Sultanate of Oman" [sic] as Qatar and Oman grant entry visas to each other's territory as well as their own. Still, any eventual passport-free travel within the GCC area would undoubtedly be limited to nationals of those states. Cheers, George W. Russell Bangalore IIRC, the Schlengen agreement allows freedom of travel for all persons, not just nationals of member states, between signatory countries. I have not experienced this but I assume that, for example, a flight from Paris to Berlin would be like just a domestic flight from Paris to Nice, with no customs, passport controls, etc. So it wouldn't matter if I were a French citizen or a Chinese citizen, if I'm on the Paris-Berlin flight, I don't have to deal with customs. On the other hand, the UK is not a signatory to the Schlengen agreement, therefore all international flights, including those from EU countries, must pass through customs, with citizens of EU countries being waved through and others going through customs checks. As not all members are in agreement, the EU still does not have entirely free travel within its borders, which is why the (I believe) 13 signatories of Schlengen made an arrangement of their own. Time will tell if the GCC will allow freedom of travel to all persons within its borders, regardless of citizenship. > IIRC, the Schlengen agreement allows freedom of travel for all persons, > not just nationals of member states, between signatory countries. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > freedom of travel to all persons within its borders, regardless of > citizenship. I think the Schengen treaty (no "l") reflects the fact that the EU is somewhat in a more advanced state of confidence regarding travel within its borders than is the GCC. Cheers, George W. Russell Bangalore >IIRC, the Schlengen agreement allows freedom of travel for all persons, >not just nationals of member states, between signatory countries. Correct. > I >have not experienced this but I assume that, for example, a flight from >Paris to Berlin would be like just a domestic flight from Paris to >Nice, with no customs, passport controls, etc. So it wouldn't matter >if I were a French citizen or a Chinese citizen, if I'm on the >Paris-Berlin flight, I don't have to deal with customs. Well, no. Schengen is purely to do with immigration controls, not customs. Individual countries still have their own customs checks, at airports you tend to by-pass immigration check points but arrive in the same baggage and customs halls as non-Schengen international passengers, and there are mobile customs units that can stop road traffic at or near borders. >On the other >hand, the UK is not a signatory to the Schlengen agreement, therefore >all international flights, including those from EU countries, must pass >through customs, with citizens of EU countries being waved through and >others going through customs checks. Not always waved through. There are items that are legal to possess in one EU country and not in another, so one still has the potential to be stopped, questioned, even searched. >As not all members are in >agreement, the EU still does not have entirely free travel within its >borders, which is why the (I believe) 13 signatories of Schlengen made >an arrangement of their own. And of course not all Schengen signatories are in fact EU members. --==++AJC++==-- AJC schrieb: >>IIRC, the Schlengen agreement allows freedom of travel for all persons, >>not just nationals of member states, between signatory countries. > > Correct. Some exceptions for asylum seekers/refugees with very limited residence status. >>I >>have not experienced this but I assume that, for example, a flight from [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > passengers, and there are mobile customs units that can stop road > traffic at or near borders. Well, yes, but with normal items there will be no problem between EU countries. Hmm, German customs love to stop drivers coming from Luxemburg with additional fuel in additional canisters that do not fulfill security rules. There will be a problem with more than 5 or 10 liters. >>On the other >>hand, the UK is not a signatory to the Schlengen agreement, therefore [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > one EU country and not in another, so one still has the potential to > be stopped, questioned, even searched. Regards, ULF >AJC schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >additional fuel in additional canisters that do not fulfill security >rules. There will be a problem with more than 5 or 10 liters. Yep, and Dutch customs love to stop drivers bringing illegal fireworks over the border from Belgium towards the end of the year, and of course British customs' attitude to the free market in alcohol and tobacco is well known! >>>On the other >>>hand, the UK is not a signatory to the Schlengen agreement, therefore [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Regards, ULF --==++AJC++==-- >> >>Is it possible to take a domestic flight from Dubai? Presumably by the >> >>time you get to another airport you are in another of the (tiny) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I assume the OP wanted a direct flight that departed from the USA, but >that assumption may be wrong. How on earth could you come to that assumption, when he simply and clearly asked about domestic flights departing from Dubai? --==++AJC++==-- > I assume the OP wanted a direct flight that departed from the USA, but > that assumption may be wrong. I'm the OP, and in fact I live in Europe. So the above assumption is about 100 per cent wrong. The question was of academic interest: someone mentioned a 'domestic' flight from Dubai, and it occured to me that maybe there was no such thing, for the same reason that there are no domestic flights from Singapore. But one response above suggests that flights to Abu Dhabi are regarded as domestic. Incidentally, the original discussion was about a flight to Muscat, which appears not to be a member of the UAE. So that would be international? Muscat is the capital of the Sultanate of Oman, a separate sovereign nation from the UAE, and thus a DXB-MCT flight would be considered an international flight. |
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