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Bomb blasts in Bangalore

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grusl - 25 Jul 2008 10:54 GMT
Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according to
early figures. It's India, so those figures are sure to increase.

Possibly caused either by Pakistanis (or Indian authorities pretending to be
Pakistanis) or else revenge from Communist sympathizers who failed to bring
down the government.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
William Black - 25 Jul 2008 11:18 GMT
> Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according
> to early figures. It's India, so those figures are sure to increase.
>
> Possibly caused either by Pakistanis (or Indian authorities pretending to
> be Pakistanis) or else revenge from Communist sympathizers who failed to
> bring down the government.

Yahoo India is reporting seven bombs,  all small and crude and triggered by
timers,  two dead and twenty injured now.

Doesn't sound like Pakistani sponsored Islamic nutters,  they're usually a
lot more lethal...

And I thought all the 'shooting' Communists were already up in the hills,
well to the north of there...

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grusl - 25 Jul 2008 11:32 GMT
>> Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according
>> to early figures. It's India, so those figures are sure to increase.
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> And I thought all the 'shooting' Communists were already up in the hills,
> well to the north of there...

Six blasts now being reported; 1-3 dead. They seem to have set them serially
down one major road. (I'd go for Islamic nutters as many Islamic nutters
here are just not very good at being Islamic nutters. However, there are
also lots of Chinese agents and their sympathizers down here, hiding among
the Tibetans and northeasterners).

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
William Black - 25 Jul 2008 12:10 GMT
>>> Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured
>>> according to early figures. It's India, so those figures are sure to
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> there are also lots of Chinese agents and their sympathizers down here,
> hiding among the Tibetans and northeasterners).

Well the authorities are going to say 'Pakistani sponsored Islamic nutters'
whoever they are.

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Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
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Time for tea.

Alfred Molon - 25 Jul 2008 14:26 GMT
> Five blasts so far this afternoon.

In Bangalore? Does this happen often? I might be in Bangalore in
October.
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William Black - 25 Jul 2008 16:24 GMT
>> Five blasts so far this afternoon.
>
> In Bangalore? Does this happen often? I might be in Bangalore in
> October.

Very rare in the major cities

Compared to Europe in the 'eighties they're rare,  and it's a lot more
dangerous to ride the Bombay trains in the rush hour...

Actually,  it's a lot more dangerous to cross the road anywhere in India

Thinking about it any form of travelling in India,  including walking, is a
lot more dangerous...

Most bomb attacks,  of the three or four a year,  are attacks on
controversial places of worship or controversial theatrical promotions.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Markku Grönroos - 25 Jul 2008 16:32 GMT
"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
viestissä:g6cr7a$vgp$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>>> Five blasts so far this afternoon.
>>
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> Compared to Europe in the 'eighties they're rare,  and it's a lot more
> dangerous to ride the Bombay trains in the rush hour...

It goes off almost daily in Copenhagen.
Alan S - 26 Jul 2008 02:19 GMT
>Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according to
>early figures. It's India, so those figures are sure to increase.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>George W Russell
>Bangalore

Glad you're OK.

Do they think these are related to the ones in Jaipur
recently? Thankfully those happened well after I was there.

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grusl - 26 Jul 2008 03:56 GMT
>>Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according
>>to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Do they think these are related to the ones in Jaipur
> recently? Thankfully those happened well after I was there.

Thanks. Who knows? There's no forensic process here. It's like Japan. Grab a
suspect you had your eyes on anyway, force a confession out of him and say,
case solved.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
Alan S - 26 Jul 2008 04:08 GMT
>>>Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured according
>>>to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>George W Russell
>Bangalore

Like wartime Morocco: "Round up the usual suspects":-)

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grusl - 26 Jul 2008 04:18 GMT
>>>>Five blasts so far this afternoon. One killed; about 15 injured
>>>>according
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>>
> Like wartime Morocco: "Round up the usual suspects":-)

Basically. In answer to Alfred, whose post I didn't see, no it definitely
doesn't happen often. Very rare, in fact. The South is generally more
peaceful than the north. The South suffered less trauma during Partition and
was until recently - before the IT boom - more ethnically homogenous,
although there have always been large religious minorities. Traditionally
geography and caste bound people more tightly than religion, though that is
changing.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
William Black - 26 Jul 2008 13:51 GMT
>>Thanks. Who knows? There's no forensic process here. It's like Japan. Grab
>>a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
> Like wartime Morocco: "Round up the usual suspects":-)

Not quite.

The Indian police authorities do tend to look quite hard when people get
blown up.

In the big Bombay bombings a decade or so ago the police case was almost a
textbook anti terror investigation,  but it took years...

The problem is that they main investigative police organisation (India has a
million different police forces) under the direct control of the local
(state level) political authorities, who tend to insist on an arrest 'right
now'.

So the police arrest someone and get a confession from them.

When the case come to court,  usually about eighteen months later,  the
judge looks at the evidence,  usually a blood specked confession signed by a
very shaky hand,  and say 'Is this all you've got?' and promptly sets the
accused free.

In this particular case the BBC reports that there are two lots being looked
for,  the 'usual suspects' (a bunch of Islamic militant nutters sponsored by
Pakistan called 'The Students' Islamic Movement of India' ) and,  probably
more likely,  'a small militant group'.  This is usually 'code' for Hindu
nationalists who aren't anything to do with the BJP,  (honest,  nothing at
all to do with then,  or the RSS either,  they just came to some lectures,
we don't know them...)  who are upset because the government survived a
confidence vote on an issue that the BJP thinks the Congress stole from
them...

As always when Indian politics comes along I recommend people read 'Maximum
City' by Suketu Mehta.  It's well out of date now but introduces all the
personalities and organisations you need to know about,  albeit from a
Bombay perspective.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

akhanna01 - 26 Jul 2008 20:17 GMT
'Alan S[_1_ Wrote:
> ;922645']On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:26:31 +0530, "grusl"
> -
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the country is facing terrorist stuf

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William Black - 26 Jul 2008 22:30 GMT
> the country is facing terrorist stuff

Very good.

It has been for some considerable time now.

And your point is?

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

 
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