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China takes dogs off the menu for the Olympics

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Soh Wats Niu - 27 Jul 2008 02:23 GMT
http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
Seeks to improve city and populace

By Barbara Demick
Los Angeles Times

BEIJING - Everybody wants to make a good impression for important
guests, but it's almost like an episode of "Extreme Makeover" here
these days.

With a price tag of $43 billion, the Summer Games that will open Aug.
8 in Beijing are the most expensive in Olympics history. The
transformation, however, goes far beyond the eye-popping architecture.
The Chinese government also has been trying to create a new, improved
population to go along with its spiffed-up capital city.

Migrant workers, beggars, and many masseuses and fortune tellers have
been sent packing for the Olympic season. Since May, restaurants have
been required to have no-smoking sections, and this month Beijing's
food safety administration ordered restaurants to remove dog meat from
their menus lest it offend Western sensibilities.

DVD shops have pulled their stocks of pirated Hollywood films.
Western-style toilets have replaced squat models in many locations.
And a group calling itself the Capital Committee to Promote Culture
and Ideological Progress recently distributed 50,000 packages of
tissues along with a warning that those caught spitting in public were
subject to a $7 fine.

Almost all Olympics have been springboards for host cities to reinvent
themselves. Barcelona redeveloped its waterfront for the 1992 Games.
Athens built a new airport, highway, and mass transit system. Like
Beijing, Seoul used the 1988 Summer Olympics as a coming-out party and
took the same types of steps toward Westernizing.

But everything taking place in Beijing is, like China itself,
outsized. Beijing ordered 40 million pots of flowers. Some varieties
were bred specially for the Olympics. To improve air quality,
officials created a forest twice the size of New York's Central Park
next to the Olympic stadiums.

Factories hundreds of miles away have been closed, and beginning last
weekend, cars were restricted to driving on odd or even days,
depending on their license plate numbers.

Costs are running three times those of the last Summer Games in
Athens, which, at $15 billion, at the time were reported to be the
most expensive in Olympic history. The futuristic new airport terminal
designed by British architect Norman Foster alone cost $3.5 billion
and is said to be one of the largest buildings in the world.

"It's not just the buildings, it is the emotional change in the city
that is so profound," said Jeff Ruffolo, an Olympics veteran from Los
Angeles who is serving as an adviser to the Beijing Olympic Committee.

Since 2001, when they won the rights to the Olympics, Beijingers have
been honing their English skills. At least according to the official
website of the Olympic Games, 90,000 Beijing taxi drivers have gone
through a special training program. The city has cleaned up its
English-language signage, removing some of the more notorious clunkers
- for example, those near the Olympic stadium that directed visitors
to "Racist Park," now referred to as the Ethnic Minorities Culture
Park.

Etiquette training has been all the rage. More than 17 million people
participated in an online program that offered advice on such fine
points as what color socks to wear with a business suit (dark ones).

During a competition televised earlier this month on state-owned CCTV,
contestants had to demonstrate how to greet visitors of various
nationalities as judges held up cards grading their performance.

"May I kiss your hand?" the winning contestant asked someone playing a
married Italian woman. An American male was received with a hearty
clasping of the hands and a "Hey man, what's up?"
DaveJohnson12@nomail. - 27 Jul 2008 08:52 GMT
>http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>DVD shops have pulled their stocks of pirated Hollywood films.
>Western-style toilets have replaced squat models in many locations.

Squat models? Never heard of that before.
Pak-T - 28 Jul 2008 00:08 GMT
>> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Squat models? Never heard of that before.

You've lead a very sheltered non-Asian life!
James - 28 Jul 2008 02:14 GMT
> >>http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/2...
> >> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Reminds me of the time in France when the little American girl came
running out of the lou crying someone stole the toilet.
mikesturak@peoplepc.com - 28 Jul 2008 03:41 GMT
Doggone, this news gives me paws. Mutts up with this? Are they flea-
ing their senses? No dog chow? How about hounding them for pooched
eggs to wolf down at least?
tim..... - 28 Jul 2008 18:47 GMT
>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You've lead a very sheltered non-Asian life!

It's not even just Asia, they used to be common in France and Italy (and
probably Spain)  The first rest area north of Calais still has them, so not
a stop that I recommend to Brits.

They are also the norm in Morocco, so presumably also in the rest of French
speaking Africa.

I have seen signs in both China and Morocco attempting to explain to the
local user that they are not expected to stand on the front edge and squat.
I have no idea if people try this without the explanation!

tim
James - 28 Jul 2008 23:08 GMT
> >>>http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/2...
> >>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

You never know what kind of cuddies you can catch when you put your
naked butt where other naked butts have been.
tim..... - 29 Jul 2008 18:51 GMT
On Jul 28, 1:47 pm, "tim....." <tims_new_h...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Pak-T" <no...@all.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

You never know what kind of cuddies you can catch when you put your
naked butt where other naked butts have been.

=============================================

That's what those little paper covers are for

tim
DaveJohnson12@nomail. - 29 Jul 2008 01:56 GMT
>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>You've lead a very sheltered non-Asian life!

Most people I have known over the years would not say that someone has lead a sheltered life if he
doesn't have to take a crap standing up like a horse. If you are in the woods for some reason, then
I can see it but people indoors shouldn't have to do that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:JapaneseSquatToilet.jpg

That's bizarre and disgusting IMHO.
tim..... - 29 Jul 2008 18:51 GMT
>>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>>>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> lead a sheltered life if he
> doesn't have to take a crap standing up like a horse.

There's a big difference between not having done it, and not knowing that it
some countries it is the norm.

tim
DaveJohnson12@nomail. - 30 Jul 2008 02:11 GMT
>>>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

>>>>> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>tim

Close enough. People here don't use them and don't know about them unless they spend time
in a place in Asia where they have them. Maybe they will be part of the Olympic coverage on TV.
William Black - 30 Jul 2008 11:01 GMT
> Close enough. People here don't use them and don't know about them unless
> they spend time
> in a place in Asia where they have them.

Asia!

Most of the world uses them.

All over Southern Europe,  the Middle and Far East.

If you much travel outside Western Europe and the English speaking nations
you'll probably need to learn to use one.

Signature

William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

DaveJohnson12@nomail. - 31 Jul 2008 01:01 GMT
>> Close enough. People here don't use them and don't know about them unless
>> they spend time
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>If you much travel outside Western Europe and the English speaking nations
>you'll probably need to learn to use one.

Interesting. I've had some practice if it ever becomes necessary. One time I stopped at a fast food
restaurant to use the men's room. The seat was so filthy I had to sh.t standing up.

Don't they at least have something like a chair with no seat to go with those things?
William Black - 31 Jul 2008 11:18 GMT
>>> Close enough. People here don't use them and don't know about them
>>> unless
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Don't they at least have something like a chair with no seat to go with
> those things?

You get a hole in the ground.

In Europe you get paper.

In India you either have learn to use water or to carry a bog roll
everywhere.

The Middle East varies.

Decent quality soft toilet paper is difficult to acquire outside Europe and
North America.

Signature

William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Markku Grönroos - 31 Jul 2008 11:33 GMT
don't crosspost this filth all over the usenet

"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
viestissä:g6s3i1$ieq$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>>>> Close enough. People here don't use them and don't know about them
>>>> unless
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Decent quality soft toilet paper is difficult to acquire outside Europe
> and North America.
William Black - 31 Jul 2008 11:40 GMT
> don't crosspost this filth all over the usenet

So tell me...

When did God die,  and who gave you the job?

Signature

William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Markku Grönroos - 31 Jul 2008 11:50 GMT
"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
viestissä:g6s4qv$t5t$1@registered.motzarella.org...

>> don't crosspost this filth all over the usenet
>
> So tell me...
>
> When did God die,  and who gave you the job?

Imbecility is no excuse.
William Black - 31 Jul 2008 12:04 GMT
> "William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
> viestissä:g6s4qv$t5t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
> Imbecility is no excuse.

I agree.

You're an imbecile....

Signature

William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Deckard - 31 Jul 2008 21:09 GMT
>> Imbecility is no excuse.
>
>I agree.
>
>You're an imbecile....

MarKKKu is the remnant of a threesome of neoNazis' garbage that haunt
rta for ages.
For sure, I cannot actually say if fanatics with an agenda are better
on Usenet than spammers.
But - I suppose you already know this - beware of the whitey garbage
when you're living in Asia.

Uncle Mort
Chase - 28 Jul 2008 19:54 GMT
That's a real pity...dog meat is the tastiest.

> http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/olympics/articles/2008/07/22/china_spa
res_no_effort_expense_in_olympics_makeover/

> China spares no effort, expense in Olympics makeover
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
> married Italian woman. An American male was received with a hearty
> clasping of the hands and a "Hey man, what's up?"
notbob - 29 Jul 2008 00:11 GMT
Nonsense.  Publicizing it will only strengthen the black (lab) market.

nb
 
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