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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???

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Kris - 03 Dec 2003 17:42 GMT
Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.

3-hour stop-over in Moscow. What's the airport like, your regular
airport same as a thousand airports in the world???  

Never flown via that part of the world, guess it's the same as
South-East Asia and China? Want to avoid any unpleasant
bribery/corruption issues while in transit (or did I see too many
movies? ;)

Kris
Sjoerd - 03 Dec 2003 18:18 GMT
> Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.
>
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> bribery/corruption issues while in transit (or did I see too many
> movies? ;)

Moscow has more than one airport, but most likely you will use Sheremetsyevo
2, which is easily the worst and ugliest airport terminal in the world.
Dark, smoky and generally unpleasant. But you will most likely survive those
three hours, and just be glad that you will only be in transit because 1)
immigration / passport control lines are horrible for arriving / departing
passengers and 2) Moscow, IMHO, is a terrible city.

Sjoerd
Kris - 03 Dec 2003 19:12 GMT
Thanx for the reply!

So I assume passengers in transit are not hassled by police,
immigration,... and whoever else happens to be wearing a uniform?

Can't wait to get back to Hong Kong ;)  so I guess I'll survive a
terrible Russian airport.

Kris

>> Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.
>>
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>
>Sjoerd
Sjoerd - 03 Dec 2003 19:24 GMT
> Thanx for the reply!
>
> So I assume passengers in transit are not hassled by police,
> immigration,... and whoever else happens to be wearing a uniform?

No. No problems with officials when you are only in transit.

> Can't wait to get back to Hong Kong ;)  so I guess I'll survive a
> terrible Russian airport.

Hong Kong is fantastic!

Sjoerd
Markku Grönroos - 04 Dec 2003 14:33 GMT
> Thanx for the reply!
>
> So I assume passengers in transit are not hassled by police,
> immigration,... and whoever else happens to be wearing a uniform?

Hardly. The staff can be very rude though. Sheremetyevo is a grand piece of
sh.t. For stays of a couple of hours, it will do just fine. Prices for many
services are horrific though. You can get refreshments cheaply at taxfree
shops.
Henry - 04 Dec 2003 05:39 GMT
> Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.
>
> 3-hour stop-over in Moscow. What's the airport like, your regular
> airport same as a thousand airports in the world???  

I haven't been through there since '96 but at that time there was an
Irish pub run by Irishmen. In other words, 'same as a thousand airports
in the world'.  :-)

cheers,

Henry
SD - 04 Dec 2003 18:02 GMT
> Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.
>
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>
> Kris

My parents flew to US by Aeroflot. THe flight was nice according to them
but Aeroflot misplaced their luggage, it is almost impossible to get any
sort of compensation out of them except a measly 50$ or something. They
found the bags after one month and delivered them to me. But the flight
from India - Moscow - US was much cheaper than other airlines. They got
a free upgrade to business class on one leg too.
John - 07 Dec 2003 13:10 GMT

Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
bucks.  jh

> My parents flew to US by Aeroflot. THe flight was nice according to them
> but Aeroflot misplaced their luggage, it is almost impossible to get any
> sort of compensation out of them except a measly 50$ or something. They
> found the bags after one month and delivered them to me. But the flight
> from India - Moscow - US was much cheaper than other airlines. They got
> a free upgrade to business class on one leg too.
Markku Grönroos - 07 Dec 2003 14:48 GMT
> Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
> risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
> bucks.  jh

You are pathetic.
Jacuo - 07 Dec 2003 16:40 GMT
> > SD <siddharthgdalal@COLDmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<bqnsrq$m03$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>...
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>
> You are pathetic.

Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline
...

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Tchiowa - 09 Dec 2003 09:25 GMT
> > > SD <siddharthgdalal@COLDmail.com> wrote in message
>  news:<bqnsrq$m03$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>...
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>
> Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline

?????

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
risk their lives to save a few dollars.

Reminds me of a thread here a couple of years ago where people were
recommending PIA because they allowed smoking.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Markku Grönroos - 09 Dec 2003 11:46 GMT
> > > > SD <siddharthgdalal@COLDmail.com> wrote in message
> >  news:<bqnsrq$m03$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>...
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> Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
> of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third

You are pansy. I have once witnessed a prolonged landing in a flight from
Moscow to Helsinki by a Tupolev 154. We had a chance to see nice views over
the capital region. When we finally touched the runaway there were lots of
ambulances waiting us. We were never told the reason for this. Perhaps the
landing gear or some meters didn't work orderly. It happens.

> world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport? Sheremtyevo is dull
(and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on
robustness of Aeroflot flights. As well, we could say that don't fly KLMs
because the Lagos airport is so horrendous a place.

> I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
> risk their lives to save a few dollars.

It is amazing only for very subjective reasons. Some people see Mary
Poppinses and Peter Pans along with pink elephants. Many people have seen
angels. This is amazing. Miraculous actually. I never attend AA flights from
the US east coast.
Chris Blunt - 09 Dec 2003 13:31 GMT
>> world. Reminds me of Nigeria.
>>
>Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport? Sheremtyevo is dull
>(and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on
>robustness of Aeroflot flights.

No, but I don't think it was meant to. It was supposed to be an
answers to the other part of his question about what Moscow airport is
like.
Tchiowa - 12 Dec 2003 07:49 GMT
> > "Jacuo" <zoch@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
>  news:<bqvl9a$16h$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>...
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>
> You are pansy.

And you're a racist. And you're proud of it. Remember saying that?
Let's hear more about "Yids" and "Kikes" and "Hebes". And then tell us
what difference that makes as to the accuracy of my statment.

> I have once witnessed a prolonged landing in a flight from
> Moscow to Helsinki by a Tupolev 154. We had a chance to see nice views over
> the capital region. When we finally touched the runaway there were lots of
> ambulances waiting us. We were never told the reason for this. Perhaps the
> landing gear or some meters didn't work orderly. It happens.

And it happens more on second rate airlines.

> > world. Reminds me of Nigeria.
> >
> Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport?

No, I never have. Of course that's probably because there is no such
place as "Lagos International Airport". Now, if you want to ask if
I've ever been to Murtala Muhammed Airport (sp), which is the
international airport that serves Lagos, then yes, I have. A lot.
Maybe 20 times.

Your point?

> Sheremtyevo is dull
> (and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on
> robustness of Aeroflot flights. As well, we could say that don't fly KLMs
> because the Lagos airport is so horrendous a place.

The poster asked about the airport itself. I answered about the airpot
itself. You seem to have a problem with that.
Markku Grönroos - 12 Dec 2003 14:09 GMT
> > > "Jacuo" <zoch@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
> >  news:<bqvl9a$16h$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>...
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> Let's hear more about "Yids" and "Kikes" and "Hebes". And then tell us
> what difference that makes as to the accuracy of my statment.

I don't save my words. I let them spread. Everyone avoiding Aeroflot flights
to Asia and selecting another carrier in belief  to give a better chance to
survive is both a pansy and a fool (and perhaps a yid as well).

> > I have once witnessed a prolonged landing in a flight from
> > Moscow to Helsinki by a Tupolev 154. We had a chance to see nice views over
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> And it happens more on second rate airlines.

It happens to the stock of airborne all over the world to all airlines. A
couple of years ago SAS planes faced several incidents within a short period
of time. Then started joking about SAS and the company sponsoring death.
Tchiowa - 13 Dec 2003 15:56 GMT
> > "Markku Grönroos" <hassu@serveri.fi> wrote in message
>  news:<br4cjj$ojr$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>...
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> >
> I don't save my words. I let them spread.

Kind of like a disease. The scary part is that you're proud of being a
racist.

> Everyone avoiding Aeroflot flights
> to Asia and selecting another carrier in belief  to give a better chance to
> survive is both a pansy and a fool (and perhaps a yid as well).

Sounds like someone who simply can't afford to fly on a proper airline
and wants to pretend that he enjoys the uncomfortable, old seats and
that flying on a substandard aircraft proves his bravery. The very
definition of a fool.

I notice you ducked out of the question you asked me about Lagos.
Seems like maybe you were trying to sound important and got caught out
again. Just like with the silliness about traveller's checks.

Stick to racist rants. It's the only thing you're truly good at.
Markku Grönroos - 13 Dec 2003 18:09 GMT
> > Everyone avoiding Aeroflot flights
> > to Asia and selecting another carrier in belief  to give a better chance to
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> that flying on a substandard aircraft proves his bravery. The very
> definition of a fool.

Aeroflot is a proper airline for sure. I don't know what motivates you to
keep up this babble. You are all wrong about Aeroflot though. I have
attended flights on their Tupolevs, 777s (10 year old stock maximum) and
wide body Ilyushins. I don't believe assembled seats are from a store house
residing in a junk yard. I believe they are original pieces. It is true that
I found the furnishing of their boeings fairly tight. By far the most
annoying thing on Aeroflot flights only a couple of years ago was the dozens
of chain smokers.
John Doe - 09 Dec 2003 13:31 GMT
>Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me.<

A friend of mine traveled to Russia, and flew Aeroflot on one international and
several internal flights. He was part of a group of scientists and business
types invited by the government there to observe manufacturing and scientific
installations for the purpose of gaining help from the West. As such, they were
flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures of
beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and those
were the aircraft that he actually flew on. There were also stories of poorly
insulated and very uncomfortable passenger cabins. Unless things have improved
over the past couple of years, I would avoid that airline if possible.

JDoe
Markku Grönroos - 09 Dec 2003 14:00 GMT
> >Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me.<
>
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> flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures of
> beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and those

It is everyday life that tires go flat.

> were the aircraft that he actually flew on. There were also stories of poorly
> insulated and very uncomfortable passenger cabins. Unless things have improved
> over the past couple of years, I would avoid that airline if possible.

Aeroflot is now an umbrella for dozens if not hundreds of companies.
Chris Blunt - 10 Dec 2003 03:42 GMT
>> >Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of
>me.<
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>
>It is everyday life that tires go flat.

Yes, but they should be replaced before they reach the minimum
requirements.

Of course, we don't know whether the person who saw this was actually
technically competent to interpret what he saw. Aircraft tyres always
look 'bald' compared to what you would expect to see on a car, but
they're a different type of tyre, and not designed to perform in the
same way as on a car.
John Doe - 10 Dec 2003 04:38 GMT
>Of course, we don't know whether the person who saw this was actually
>technically competent to interpret what he saw. Aircraft tyres always
>look 'bald' compared to what you would expect to see on a car, but
>they're a different type of tyre, and not designed to perform in the
>same way as on a car.
The person in question has a PhD. in Metalurgical engineering, and heads the
research dept. of a major aerospace and defense contractor. I think he knows
what he is talking about. Besides, even I could interpret the pictures. they
looked really bad.
Tchiowa - 12 Dec 2003 07:50 GMT
> >> >Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of
>  me.<
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> Yes, but they should be replaced before they reach the minimum
> requirements.

And that's the point about Aeroflot and other similar airlines. Poor
maintenance. If the tires are going bad, what else wasn't inspected
and maintained properly.
Markku Grönroos - 12 Dec 2003 14:02 GMT
> And that's the point about Aeroflot and other similar airlines. Poor
> maintenance. If the tires are going bad, what else wasn't inspected
> and maintained properly.

Aeroflot planes in international routes go through similar maintenance
procedures like other planes of other carries. Punctured tires are common
(when a 300 ton plane touches and brakes on tarmac, that is something for
rubber). In summer 2002 my Finnair flight from Helsinki to Franfurt was
delayed by an hour because one of the tires of the Airbus 320 went flat
earlier that morning.
Chris Blunt - 09 Dec 2003 13:31 GMT
>> > > SD <siddharthgdalal@COLDmail.com> wrote in message
>>  news:<bqnsrq$m03$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>...
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>I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
>risk their lives to save a few dollars.

You're correct in saying that people are increasing their risks to
save money, but you also need to take into account the actual level of
that risk rather than simply compare it. If there's, say, a one in two
million chance of being killed on a US airline, compared with a one in
a million chance on Aeroflot, then for me either  would still be an
acceptable level.

What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks
in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily
worrying about the airline they're going to fly on.
Markku Grönroos - 09 Dec 2003 14:21 GMT
> You're correct in saying that people are increasing their risks to
> save money, but you also need to take into account the actual level of
> that risk rather than simply compare it. If there's, say, a one in two
> million chance of being killed on a US airline, compared with a one in
> a million chance on Aeroflot, then for me either  would still be an
> acceptable level.

It is known that Aeroflot as an international carrier has been reliable and
it is not prone for fatalities. Domestic fleet is known to be more or less
worn down.

> What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks
> in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily
> worrying about the airline they're going to fly on.

That's right. Traffic in Bankok alone kills half a dozens or so people every
day. If we compile a zillion different risk analysis reports and statistical
tables on people flying Aeroflot, we could draw a pie of risks during their
holiday in which one sector describes air crashes. Even if the pie was 10
meters in diameter, one couldn't see the sector by bare eyes.
Chris Blunt - 10 Dec 2003 03:42 GMT
>> What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks
>> in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>holiday in which one sector describes air crashes. Even if the pie was 10
>meters in diameter, one couldn't see the sector by bare eyes.

I don't know whether the statistic is true or not, but I've heard that
more people are killed by falling coconuts than get killed in aircraft
accidents. I've seen a coconut fall from a tree while I've been lying
on a beach just a few meters away, and when you see how hard it hits
the ground you're certainly glad your head was not underneath it.
That's a danger I would never have even thought about before.
Tchiowa - 12 Dec 2003 07:54 GMT
> >> > > SD <siddharthgdalal@COLDmail.com> wrote in message
>  news:<bqnsrq$m03$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> a million chance on Aeroflot, then for me either  would still be an
> acceptable level.

What you say is true enough. But risk analysis basically covers three
areas: Odds of a loss (in this case low, even at twice the odds), cost
of taking or avoiding the risk, severity of loss in the event the odds
catch you.

Twice the risk, even if it's a low risk, to save a few dollars
compared with the cost of loss if the odds get you doesn't make any
sense to me.
Lars - 12 Dec 2003 18:58 GMT
>Twice the risk, even if it's a low risk, to save a few dollars

It is not just a few dollars!
On my recent trip back and forth Stockholm - Delhi I think I
saved about 300 dollars flying with Aeroflot. Obviously I would
not take any serios risks with my life for 300 $. But I do not
think I did.

I do take risks sometimes. While driving fast in an old car,
while walking against red lights, skating on natural ice or
trekking on iffy trails near a dangerous drop.
Maybe you don´t?

It would always be safer to stay at home, be in your mothers
kitchen. Never do anything she would not do. And travel only
with the safest airlines. Always use a helmet!

Some of us want more than that. Go further. Push it a bit.

Lars, Stockholm
Markku Grönroos - 12 Dec 2003 21:18 GMT
> It would always be safer to stay at home, be in your mothers
> kitchen. Never do anything she would not do. And travel only
> with the safest airlines. Always use a helmet!

Perhaps you have heard about a Norwegian study which suggests a knitted cap
rather than a helmet for motorists. A team of scientists climbed on the top
of a high tower (in the city of Oslo I guess) and first dropped a helmet
which cracked into pieces when hit the ground while the knitted cap remained
unbroken after the same treatment.
Spehro Pefhany - 12 Dec 2003 21:27 GMT
>> It would always be safer to stay at home, be in your mothers
>> kitchen. Never do anything she would not do. And travel only
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>which cracked into pieces when hit the ground while the knitted cap remained
>unbroken after the same treatment.

Is this an example of Finnish humour?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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TheLittleVoice - 27 Dec 2003 04:55 GMT
I flew with Aeroflot from Bangkok to Paris(via Moscow) and back from
Stockholm to Bangkok(via Moscow). Despite what everyone says, I had a
great experience with them. I flew Business Class and I have to say the
seat is pretty much like an Economy Class except you get two seats for
yourself(on Bangkok to Russia and Russia to Bangkok route). However the
planes that they use for Europe flights like Moscow to Paris or
Stockholm to Moscow were awesome and the seats for business class were
as geat as other airlines. The cabin crew were actually calling me
precious...they must have thought I was 15 or something(I'm 23 but
comparing to Westerners, us Asians normally look a lot younger) so they
treated me well. And all the flights were smooth indeed. The only
complaint I have is on the way back, I had 8 hours transit time and it
wasn't fun when everyone around you seemed to smoke. But I did find a
place to take a nap for a few hours so it wasn't too bad. But I also had
a great time talking to some shop workers there. They were very helpful.
I bought a bunch of postcards but there's no post office inside so one
lady offered to send them for me. I sent around 5 postcards and she said
that would be like 2 bucks. I didn't have any 2 bucks banknote, I only
had 5 so I wanted to give her all but she refused to take it. She
insisted on giving me the change. Overall I had a nice experience and
I'm definitely gonna use them again if I have quite a lot of time to
spare for those long transit hours.
Po Box 557 - 29 Dec 2003 12:52 GMT
do you know if the post cards been recieved yet?

> I flew with Aeroflot from Bangkok to Paris(via Moscow) and back from
> Stockholm to Bangkok(via Moscow). Despite what everyone says, I had a
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> I'm definitely gonna use them again if I have quite a lot of time to
> spare for those long transit hours.
Jacuo - 09 Dec 2003 22:37 GMT
> > Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline
>
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> of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
> world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

Yes 2 times. In my country ( Poland ) it is quite popular, because it is
good and chiper. Sheremetyevo is not a very nice place, but Moscow is OK.
I have never been in Nigeria, but Moscow is similiar to Paris.

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Tchiowa - 12 Dec 2003 07:56 GMT
> > "Jacuo" <zoch@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
>  news:<bqvl9a$16h$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>...
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> good and chiper. Sheremetyevo is not a very nice place, but Moscow is OK.
> I have never been in Nigeria, but Moscow is similiar to Paris.

Say what????? Moscow similar to Paris??? Not the Moscow I've been to.

I'm not particularly a fan of Paris, but Moscow isn't even in the same league.
Jacuo - 12 Dec 2003 20:55 GMT
> > Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
> > > of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
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>
> I'm not particularly a fan of Paris, but Moscow isn't even in the same league.

For friend of mine, Paris looked similar to New Delphi ... I don`t find
Paris more interesting than Moscow.

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SD - 09 Dec 2003 14:48 GMT
>  
> Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>from India - Moscow - US was much cheaper than other airlines. They got
>>a free upgrade to business class on one leg too.

You should stop driving, stop going out of your house, stop living in
your house lest it might collapse. That is the most stupid thing I've
heard. Do you even know how much less risky it is to fly than to do any
of the routine daily activities you do?
Kris - 09 Dec 2003 18:40 GMT
Thanx for the many replies!!!

I see a long discussion has started about Aeroflot's safety record.
Well, I'm not too worried about this. As long as the engines and wings
are visibly intact, I'm happy.

I was more worried about corrupt officials at the airport while in
transit. I guess passengers in transit are not hassled by dodgy people
wearing uniforms and huge official looking hats?

Kris

>Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Kris
Lars - 09 Dec 2003 23:19 GMT
>I was more worried about corrupt officials at the airport while in
>transit. I guess passengers in transit are not hassled by dodgy people
>wearing uniforms and huge official looking hats?

No they are not.

I came home about ten days ago from a trip that included flying
with Aeroflot Stockholm - Moscow - Delhi, back and forth.
Neither the flights nor the stopovers in Moscow were terrific
but they were not horrible either.
Aereoflot is more and more using Airbuses, and they are quite
OK. (Even though I prefer Boeings.)

Russian officials, including airport staff, are never
particularly charming or helpful beyond the minimum nessecary.
But the days of innocent people being dragged off to Siberian
salt mines for a minor mistake, seems to be over.

They still wear uniforms and huge hats though!

Lars, Stockholm
Kris - 10 Dec 2003 10:34 GMT
Thanx for the information, Lars! Do they ask for any identification
documents while in transit??

You know, It's funny - I've flown around India/China/South-East Asia
for years and never worried for a single second, not a single time,
but now I will come into contact with Russian bureaucracy for the
first time, I do worry. Seen too many movies involving Siberian salt
mines (as you mentioned ;) I guess. Anyway... Looking forward to being
back in Hong Kong.

Kris

>>I was more worried about corrupt officials at the airport while in
>>transit. I guess passengers in transit are not hassled by dodgy people
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>
>Lars, Stockholm
Lars - 10 Dec 2003 23:55 GMT
>Do they ask for any identification
>documents while in transit??

Well they do at all airports don´t they?
I mean you come off your arrival flight to enter the airport.
Their airport. They will want to see your ticket and your
passport. Probably just to make sure that you do have a ticket
and that you are the person to whom the ticket is issued.
I don´t think they run any lengthy checks on you.

Be glad you don´t have a transit in Frankfurt. The German
customs may well decide they want to go through your luggage,
even if you never intended to enter their country at all.

>now I will come into contact with Russian bureaucracy for the
>first time, I do worry. Seen too many movies involving Siberian

It is not that bad any more. But I do remember reading in Time
magazine, when it was still heavy communism in Russia, about a
Japanese or Korean traveller who had somehow been left behind
at the Moscow airport. Maybe his english was not very good.
Anyhow he could not get any straight info on when or how his
trip was to continue.

When he had spent 48 hours at the airport he somehow managed to
get together a quite large poster that he carried in a string
around his neck, walking around for everyone to see. On the
poster was a text explaining his predicament and begging for
help, in english. He did have ticket. There was just no flight
and no airport staff that could or would tell him when that
flight would happen.

The police dragged him out of there. End of Time mag story.

Every time I have been at Moscow airport I recall the story and
wonder whatever happened to him. Siberia? Gulag?

Lars, Stockholm
Kris - 11 Dec 2003 11:26 GMT
>>Do they ask for any identification
>>documents while in transit??
>
>Well they do at all airports don´t they?

Hmm, guess I never really pay attention to this.

Your Japanese/Korean gulag story sounds scary indeed... enter the
Twilight Zone ;)

Kris
Tchiowa - 12 Dec 2003 07:45 GMT
> >>Do they ask for any identification
> >>documents while in transit??
> >
> >Well they do at all airports don´t they?

No. Not if you're in transit. If you need to clear Immigration, of
course they do. But most don't require it if you stay in transit.
 
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