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Gerry - 28 Feb 2004 02:33 GMT
This will be our fourth trip in as many years and we intend to see
what's to be seen north of Tokyo.

We were thinking of heading up the east coast through Sendai, then
across and down the coast of the inland sea. Or thereabouts.

Any suggestions for fun places to visit or hang in the northern areas?

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Dave Fossett - 28 Feb 2004 04:53 GMT
> We were thinking of heading up the east coast through Sendai, then
> across and down the coast of the inland sea. Or thereabouts.
>
> Any suggestions for fun places to visit or hang in the northern areas?

Matsushima, on the coast just north of Sendai, is very scenic with lots of
little islands in the bay.
The Inland Sea lies between Honshu and Shikoku, so maybe you mean the Japan
Sea? If you are travelling back down along the Japan Sea coast, Kanazawa is
an interesting city worth seeing. The castle and gardens there are probably
the biggest attraction.

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Iceman - 07 Mar 2004 16:30 GMT
> > We were thinking of heading up the east coast through Sendai, then
> > across and down the coast of the inland sea. Or thereabouts.
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> an interesting city worth seeing. The castle and gardens there are probably
> the biggest attraction.

Don't miss the Ninja Temple in Kanazawa.
mag3 - 28 Feb 2004 13:26 GMT
Quoting Gerry <222ggg@spam.really.sucks> regarding Next Trip to Japan in a
message dated Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:33:01 -0800:

>This will be our fourth trip in as many years and we intend to see
>what's to be seen north of Tokyo.
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>
>Any suggestions for fun places to visit or hang in the northern areas?

Well, this may not  be "fun" from your perspective but it was from mine. I
went all the way north to Aomori last year on the Hiyate Shinkansen (you
have/had to change to a local train at Hachihone).  The coastline between
Hachihone and Aomori was gorgeous. Aomori is very much a "city" in many
respects but a very interesting one.  Two major attractions include the "Nebuta
Matsuri" festival in early August, and the Sannai Maruyama site.  And depending
on what time of year you go (ie. if you go in August or threabouts), it's a
great way to beat the heat/mugginess of Tokyo. I steped off the train and it
was 10 deg.  cooler than Tokyo - what a relief!

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mag3 - 28 Feb 2004 13:34 GMT
Quoting mag3 <mag3*hates*spam*@newsguy.com> regarding Re: Next Trip to Japan in
a message dated Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:26:42 -0500:

>Quoting Gerry <222ggg@spam.really.sucks> regarding Next Trip to Japan in a
>message dated Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:33:01 -0800:
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>Well, this may not  be "fun" from your perspective but it was from mine. I
>went all the way north to Aomori last year on the Hiyate Shinkansen (you

       Pardon:  "Hayate Shinkansen" Typo. :-)

>have/had to change to a local train at Hachihone).  The coastline between
>Hachihone and Aomori was gorgeous. Aomori is very much a "city" in many
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Gerry - 28 Feb 2004 16:12 GMT
> The coastline between Hachihone and Aomori was gorgeous. Aomori is
> very much a "city" in many respects but a very interesting one.  Two
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> to beat the heat/mugginess of Tokyo. I steped off the train and it
> was 10 deg.  cooler than Tokyo - what a relief!

Both Matsushima and Kanazawa sound good. Do Does Aomore.  Duly noted.

We are going in the middle two weeks of May, but for business reasons
it now seems that June might be easier.

Is the weather oppressive in June?  Or better to say, overall which
mont will be better overall in the country; mid-May or mid-June?

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mag3 - 28 Feb 2004 22:28 GMT
Quoting Gerry <222ggg@spam.really.sucks> regarding Re: Next Trip to Japan in a
message dated Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:12:07 -0800:

>We are going in the middle two weeks of May, but for business reasons
>it now seems that June might be easier.
>
>Is the weather oppressive in June?  Or better to say, overall which
>mont will be better overall in the country; mid-May or mid-June?

I've never been there in June, but let's put it this way. Tokyo's
latitude is about 50 miles or so south of Raleigh, North Carolina.
So that's the kind of weather you'd be expecting. In the middle of
May, you might be catching the tail end of the spring Thunderstorms.
If it's mid-June, I'd imagine it's already starting to get oppressive.

But Aomori should be really nice.

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John W. - 29 Feb 2004 20:44 GMT
> > The coastline between Hachihone and Aomori was gorgeous. Aomori is
> > very much a "city" in many respects but a very interesting one.  Two
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> Is the weather oppressive in June?  Or better to say, overall which
> mont will be better overall in the country; mid-May or mid-June?

Mid May will be better than Mid June, but that far north you shouldn't
have as many problems with the rain as further south/West; June is the
official rainy season, so bear that in mind. Still, I found the 'rainy
season' to be no worse than regular spring rains in Japan and my
native Tennessee.

I've been to both Sendai and Matsushima and enjoyed both, though in
Sendai I really didn't do much in the way of 'touristy' things. The
beaches around Sendai were decent, but because of the tsunami barriers
(I assume that's what they were) they weren't all that pretty; a short
distance from shore were these huge concrete contraptions.

What's your 'plan of attack'? I've always wanted to head out of Narita
over to the eastern shore and head up that way. There are supposed to
be some nice small villages that few tourists (and few Japanese) see.
I added up the travel times once and the time from Narita to Tokyo,
then up north by Shinkansen wasn't that much faster than going over to
the coast and up. But I'm a wanderer by nature so what's 'relative' to
me is a bit different than some!

John W.
Gerry - 01 Mar 2004 02:59 GMT
> I've been to both Sendai and Matsushima and enjoyed both, though in
> Sendai I really didn't do much in the way of 'touristy' things. The
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> the coast and up. But I'm a wanderer by nature so what's 'relative' to
> me is a bit different than some!

We don't really have a plan of attack yet.  We usually fly LA to Osaka,
turn our clocks around for a couple of days and then head off.  If we
were to do that I think we'd probably pickup some sites in the western
Honshu sites we haven't been to, then up past Tokyo up the Eastern
Coast.  Then, the theory was that there was some train running across
to the Sea of Japan which we would take before heading SW back down
that coast.

But sheesh I barely even have a map in hand at this point.

Can you narrow down the smaller villages you heard about to a specific
area? We've never rented a car (nor driven on the left) before, but
over the past week few weeks I've been reading Booth's Road to Sata and
the areas he travels really can only be seen via car--though admittedly
it's most is not an idyllic wander.  It does sound a bit less traveled
though...

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John W. - 04 Mar 2004 16:19 GMT
> > I've been to both Sendai and Matsushima and enjoyed both, though in
> > Sendai I really didn't do much in the way of 'touristy' things. The
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> to the Sea of Japan which we would take before heading SW back down
> that coast.

Why not go from Kansai to the Japan sea and then head up that way? Or,
if you haven't done it, take the train up from Nagoya. But a lot also
depends on time. Both of those options will add to your trip.

> But sheesh I barely even have a map in hand at this point.
>
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> it's most is not an idyllic wander.  It does sound a bit less traveled
> though...

I never got it narrowed down to specifics. What prompted me to think
about this is all the talk about how Narita isn't all that bad of a
town, combined with some folks that I know who went over to the Chiba
coast and enjoyed it. So I planned on either taking a train or car
over and just driving until I found something I like. If there's
nothing worth seeing, no real harm since it's not that out of the way
for a trip up north (had some inlaws in Ibaraki). I think driving in
Japan (and on the left in general) isn't that hard at all. Just have
to think a bit more than usual, particuarly when you return home; the
only time I accidently drove on the 'wrong' side was when I came from
Japan to the US and got too comfy with my driving and found myself
heading the wrong way!

John W.
Gerry - 04 Mar 2004 19:31 GMT
> > We don't really have a plan of attack yet.  We usually fly LA to Osaka,
> > turn our clocks around for a couple of days and then head off.  If we
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> if you haven't done it, take the train up from Nagoya. But a lot also
> depends on time. Both of those options will add to your trip.

Might be feasible. But going from Osaka to the Matsue took the better
part of a day--no Shinkansen going form Inland Sea to Sea of Japan
there.  We did Nagoya to Matsumoto, the slow boat up the Kiso Valley,
too once. Either route more less torches a day.  I was just thinking
that going up the east coast would get us somewhere (anywhere) quicker.

> > But sheesh I barely even have a map in hand at this point.
> >
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> Japan to the US and got too comfy with my driving and found myself
> heading the wrong way!

That's much scarier indeed. Do you know if car rental is generally as
convenient and inexpensive as the US?  If we could wander aimlessly up
any coast and then ditch the car in a major city it sounds like it
would be a lot of fun for just the reasons you mention--stopping if you
find something neat without having to deal with a crowd.

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HH - 02 Mar 2004 00:39 GMT
For some ideas, look at this itinerary:
http://www.adventures-abroad.com/tours/html/QJP.htm. It's a terrific
itinerary. BTW, I'm not affiliated with Adventures Abroad. I just like the
region. It should particularly appeal to people who have seen the more
popular sites in Japan and want to see a part of the country that is less
known and visited.

Harlan
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| This will be our fourth trip in as many years and we intend to see
| what's to be seen north of Tokyo.
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| care about the swing districts. Then they complain about voter apathy.
|  -- Gail Collins
Gerry - 02 Mar 2004 02:21 GMT
> For some ideas, look at this itinerary:
> http://www.adventures-abroad.com/tours/html/QJP.htm It's a terrific
> itinerary. BTW, I'm not affiliated with Adventures Abroad. I just like the
> region. It should particularly appeal to people who have seen the more
> popular sites in Japan and want to see a part of the country that is less
> known and visited.

Cool.  There's got to be SOMEthing worthwhile there, though probably
too much of it for such a whirlwind run...

If you're found of it yourself, which places would you be most inclined
to spend three days.  We've generally concluded that everywhere we go
it's a lot easier if we intend to stay three days and at least 2 if not
3 nights.

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