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Travel Forum / Destinations / Asia / May 2005BAN INDONESIA
DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! STOP ALL AID TO THIS REGION NOW. DO YOU WANT YOUR LIFE RUINED? Schapelle Corby from Australia has just been given 20 years in prison and she is innocent. Search for Schapelle Corby on Google to see what I mean. >DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >and she is innocent. Search for Schapelle Corby on Google to see what >I mean. According to the court, she was guilty. Chris (enjoying my time in Bali) Haven't being following the case all that much. From the bits and pieces, the judge made a boo-boo by treating it as an in-out situation. Given the evidence, there may be reasonable doubt - in a western court - but we're not talking about Australia. Then again though, Linda Chamberlain went through pretty much the same thing in Australia. Coming from a Chinese background, it's the norm. It would be nice to think things have changed but that's life. Anyway, I would be very surprise if Corby's appeal fails. The world is watching now. Can you recommend a hotel and cheap fairs to Bali for two? Melbourne's cold weather is really given my girl the sh*ts. Preferrable not to fly QANTAS. Regards, Ka > >DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chris (enjoying my time in Bali) Well... The Corby thing is probably done to worse the relationship of the people between the two countries (any maybe even more), since it's very darn obvious that the whole thing with the Bali bomb and aren't enough to destroy the relationship between the people of the two countries (and maybe even more). As for a western court. Which that would be, Indian court? Hey, it's west of Australia. :) Anyway. All courts in the world are runned by the same group of people. Personally, this sort of things would have never happened if drug trafficking isn't outlawed. I don't condone drug trafficking. I'm the least tolerent to that sort of thing. I grew up in the new Territories in HK as a kid (back waaaaaay before that made the place and neat), I've seen first hand the destruction drugs causes. Having said that, I'm with you in the sense that public perception between the two countries would worsen. The problem here is that Indo media is treating this as another drug casse whereas the media here is the exact opposite. Another problem is that the judges' current and previous decision would not be in doubt. From a legal perspective, this judge is now in deep water - how is it possible that everyone who's being brought before him on a drugs charge is guilty? It would be like a GP who've told evey patience to go home, take two panadols and see what happens next. A GP like that would get de-registered really quickly. MInd you, I'm also in trouble for discussing the trial publicly - me and everyone else who've said anything on any web forum. As for Western courts, yeah - the system is as dodgy as my old Holden 1984 Camira, it clunks along and does it's job. I have to re-attach the muffler occasionally but what can one do? Regards, Ka. > Well... The Corby thing is probably done to worse the relationship of > the people between the two countries (any maybe even more), since it's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Personally, this sort of things would have never happened if drug > trafficking isn't outlawed. > Another problem is that the judges' current and previous decision would not > be in doubt. From a legal perspective, this judge is now in deep water - how > is it possible that everyone who's being brought before him on a drugs > charge is guilty? It would be like a GP who've told evey patience to go You're missing one very important point here - Corgy is, under Indonesian law, guilty. She was caught with drugs in her possession. Under Indonesian law, that means she's guilty. It doesn't matter if they were hers, or who put them there (especially if that happened outside of the country). In the local laws, that is irrelivant. The Indonesian judges didn't have any choice - their laws clearly states that she's guilty, and they found her as such. There was never any doubt that they would. The real issue here is the laws, not the judges or the prosecutors, or the way the trial was held. The laws say she's guilty, regardless of where the drugs came from. Scott Trust me, I'm not saying she's innocent under Indonesian law. Not doubting that for one minute. The law states it very clearly, if you're caught with it - you're guilty - end of story. The question is the interpretation and treatment of the law by this said judge and the prosecution. There is now more then one aspect to this case then just the law now. It has now become political. It happens - doesn't matter where you are. The political ramification of this trial is this: a judge has been seen to continuously put people into prision with drugs. There has been lapses in customs procedure in Indonesia yet this was never questioned by said judge. It has now also come to light that the prosecution has gotten used to getting their own way. There's a couple of nasty words that people can probably conjure up right now. All up, doesn't paint a great picture. My concern is that what the judge is doing isn't a bad thing - drugs destroy a lot of innocent lives over there - he's merely protecting his own people. I know there's still people form my dad's generation that still btiching about the opium wars. All good. Regards, Ka. > > Another problem is that the judges' current and previous decision would not > > be in doubt. From a legal perspective, this judge is now in deep water - how [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Scott ...(cut).. > Can you recommend a hotel and cheap fairs to Bali for two? Melbourne's > cold > weather is really given my girl the sh*ts. Preferrable not to fly QANTAS. Try Paradise Air for cheap flights. http://www.airparadise.com.au/ Would rather see a ban of brainless drunk drugged up aussies in bali >>DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chris (enjoying my time in Bali) > DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and she is innocent. Search for Schapelle Corby on Google to see what > I mean. What about the 200+ innocent guys and children at the US base on Cuba? Should we ban US too. These guys do not even get a trial in the first place, but they sure get torture for free. /Nisse  SignatureRemove the obvious part before replying by mail please! Well put - then there's the whole Rau case now. Ka > > DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDONESIA! > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > /Nisse FAIR COMMENT. The beautician from Queensland had continually pleaded her innocence to the charges against her, claiming that baggage handlers in Australia put the drugs in her luggage as part of a smuggling operation that went wrong. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4585295.stm) Indonesia has done it's job, she had drugs, don't here anyone saying, "don't fly from any Australian airports", where it all started from. One nice thing about travelling with only hand baggage, no baggage handlers |
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