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Dieter Aaaa - 26 Sep 2005 20:43 GMT
Ni hao !

I am looking for a Chinese dictionary like this:
(yes, I am a ware that there are hundreds of on-line dictionaries of all
kinds, but what i  really need is this:)

-  For a  PDA  or Vaio Pocket  (not for a laptop PC)
-  With English menu navigation system (not a Chinese menu system)
-  Chinese - English
-  English - Chinese
-  With pinyin and tones   ( to allow me to pronounce the Chinese character)
-  With Chinese  han4zi4  character recognising:  when walking in the
Beijing streets, i like to write a word on the PDA screen, the program
should recognise the Chinese character  and let me know the translation, the
pronounciation and the explanation or synonyms.

Any idea where to find such a program  with  ALL  these characteristics ?

Is this the proper newsgroup to ask this kind of questions ?

Xiexie nin
MATTI - 26 Sep 2005 21:53 GMT
>when walking in the Beijing streets, i like to write a word on the PDA
>screen, the program should recognise the Chinese character  and let me know
>the translation, the pronounciation and the explanation or synonyms.

These translators are sold everywhere in asia, and for a western guy like
me, they
are not sooo useful;

1. Writing chinese words. VERY difficult on paper and almost impossible on a
pda, the pda
very often missunderstands my strokes and give the wrong word.

2. Number of words in dictionary. Most of them are too limited, yes horse,
cheese and sun is there, but more complex/unusual words are missing.

My own solution is to learn at least basic mandrine and bring my thick
dictionary.

Xie xie.

/M
Spehro Pefhany - 27 Sep 2005 01:04 GMT
>>when walking in the Beijing streets, i like to write a word on the PDA
>>screen, the program should recognise the Chinese character  and let me know
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>2. Number of words in dictionary. Most of them are too limited, yes horse,
>cheese and sun is there, but more complex/unusual words are missing.

I would think that if it doesn't accurately translate many thousands
of idioms (set combinations of several characters) it would be pretty
much useless except in the simplest situations.

>My own solution is to learn at least basic mandrine and bring my thick
>dictionary.

>Xie xie.
>
>/M

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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MATTI - 27 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
> I would think that if it doesn't accurately translate many thousands
> of idioms (set combinations of several characters) it would be pretty
> much useless except in the simplest situations.

Here is a map with chinese characters:
http://www.hku.hk/cupem/igugisc/sdh2000/beijing.jpg

Anyone with pda who can try translate?

/M
PeterL - 26 Sep 2005 23:03 GMT
> Ni hao !
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Is this the proper newsgroup to ask this kind of questions ?

Do a google search on Chinese dictionary + PDA.  You'll get a number of
hits.

> Xiexie nin
Peter Neville-Hadley - 26 Sep 2005 23:25 GMT
> I am looking for a Chinese dictionary like this:

> -  For a  PDA  or Vaio Pocket  (not for a laptop PC)

See http://www.pleco.com for a bi-directional dictionary program working
on both Palm OS and Pocket PC which I believe has all the requested
functions.

The most recent version comes with a digital version of the Oxford
Concise English-Chinese Chinese-English dictionary, but far larger
dictionaries such as the ABC can also be added for a fee, as well as a
number of specialist free dictionaries.

The new version also has new character recognition software with
remarkable tolerance for strokes entered in the wrong order, and very
rarely fails to recognise even sloppily-written input.

It also has a facility for created flashcards and running tests with
them, allowing for the creation of vocabulary lists, and also for
downloading flashcard sets made by others (such as a free on-line set of
characters required for the HSK exams).

Peter N-H
http://members.shaw.ca/pnhpublic/China.html
Dieter Aaaa - 26 Sep 2005 23:57 GMT
>> I am looking for a Chinese dictionary like this:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> working on both Palm OS and Pocket PC which I believe has all the
> requested functions.

waa, that sounds great.   feichang hao !
I'll have a try right away.

Do you have any practical experience with that pleco program ?
Peter Neville-Hadley - 27 Sep 2005 01:51 GMT
> Do you have any practical experience with that pleco program ?

For some time it has been the only dictionary I've taken to China, and I
use it every day for quick checks of unfamiliar characters and phrases
while on the run.

I use it on Palm OS, but I have no direct experience of how it works on
Pocket PC.

Peter N-H
http://members.shaw.ca/pnhpublic/China.html
 
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