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Connecting flight with tickets from two different agencies, possible?

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ihsiuhuang@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2006 06:31 GMT
Hi all,

 I am getting my self confused here so hopefully some of you frequent
travellers can answer it for me.  I will be travelling to Japan and
China in March (From USA).  I got my ticket from US to Japan from an
agency here in the US.  To save money, I bought my ticket from Japan to
China from an agency in Japan (my wife's parents lives in Japan, so we
had the ticket sent it there and forward it to us).   My schedule is
this:  Arrive in Japan March 23, on same day fly to China.  6 days
later return to Japan and stay for 5 days, and then back to the US.
Now, my confusion is this, since I got my tickets from 2 different
agencies, and the airlines are also different, where will I get my
boarding pass to China?   I don't need to go through custom first
right?  I should be able to just go through the connecting gates?
confused.. >_<
Gerrit 't Hart - 24 Feb 2006 07:05 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> right?  I should be able to just go through the connecting gates?
> confused.. >_<

Do you have checked luggage?
If so try and get it checked right through to your final destination. With
some airline combinations it is possible (you will have to show both tickets
at check in). If they won't do that I'm afraid you will have to collect your
luggage and then go to a check in counter. With any luck there may be one
airside. If not it's through customs and back out within a short space of
time. Do you need a visa for that?

Gerrit
ihsiuhuang@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2006 07:26 GMT
Wow thanks for the fast response.
Yeah I have checked luggage.  I guess the worst case is for us to go
through custom and back in again.  we have 3 hour lay off so should be
okay.  and the good thing is I don't need a visa to enter Japan.  I
will show both ticket when i check in though and hopefully i can get my
luggage checked all the way through.  Now, do you think it's possible
that at checkin my luggage is checked through to final destination but
I still need to go to an airside counter in Narita to get my boarding
pass to china?
riverman - 24 Feb 2006 12:07 GMT
> Wow thanks for the fast response.
> Yeah I have checked luggage.  I guess the worst case is for us to go
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I still need to go to an airside counter in Narita to get my boarding
> pass to china?

I can't imagine that you would have to go through customs. All major
airports have a 'transit terminal' where you make changes onto other flights
without clearing local customs. You can get new boarding passes in the
transit terminal, and even collect and recheck baggage if necessary.

However, I have seldom had to collect and recheck bags while going to
first-world countries. The only time I can remember is when flying into
Congo via South Africa, and I had an overnight layover so I had to collect
my bags as SAA would not store them in Joberg overnight. The other case is
when entering the US in NYC, as you have to clear security again and recheck
your bags.

I think you'll find that the airlines will check your bags all the way
through, and most likely will give you boarding passes. At the worst, you'd
have to get a new boarding pass in Narita, but you can do that right at the
gate.

What are the two airlines?

--riverman
Alan Street - 25 Feb 2006 16:13 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> right?  I should be able to just go through the connecting gates?
> confused.. >_<

<cross-posting this to rec.travel.air - there are some very
knowledgable folks on that group that will probably be able to add some
good information>

The issue is that you have two different itineraries that you may or
may not be able to join together. The two airlines may or may not have
interline agreements (most do, but I wouldn't make any assumptions),
that will determine if you have to collect your luggage in Japan (which
airport, BTW?) or if it can be checked through to your final
destination. I'd call ahead to the airline and find out if they can
check your luggage through to your final destination on the different
carrier. If they can't, and you have to collect your bags in Japan, you
might seriously consider changing your outbound flight to an eariler
one. Three hours to clear customs, collect your bags, check them in on
a different airline (possibly in a different terminal), clear back
through immigration, and make your flight is cutting it kind of close.
If your flight to Japan is late for any reason (and it happen
disturbingly often), you almost certainly won't make it.

If you can check your bags through, then the only hurdle I think you'll
have is when you first check in for your US-Japan flight. I'd budget
some extra time to allow for any minor hiccups. This isn't terribly out
of the ordinary, but some ticket counter agents will have trouble with
it, and it could take an extra 15~30 minutes to get a supervisor, etc.,
to help them.
Tchiowa - 26 Feb 2006 06:18 GMT
> > Hi all,
> >
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> If your flight to Japan is late for any reason (and it happen
> disturbingly often), you almost certainly won't make it.

I've done pretty much what the OP is talking about several times. Quite
often there was no agreement between the airlines. In some cases
they've had to create a hand-written luggage tag to transfer my bags
because the airline that was checking me in couldn't even see the other
airline in the system (Merpati in Indonesia or TAAG in Angola are 2
examples).

But I showed them my various tickets and they checked the bags through.
No problem.

I 100% agree that you should make sure you've allowed plenty of extra
time between flights as this process might be less than "efficient".
But it works.

> If you can check your bags through, then the only hurdle I think you'll
> have is when you first check in for your US-Japan flight. I'd budget
> some extra time to allow for any minor hiccups. This isn't terribly out
> of the ordinary, but some ticket counter agents will have trouble with
> it, and it could take an extra 15~30 minutes to get a supervisor, etc.,
> to help them.
ihsiuhuang@gmail.com - 26 Feb 2006 20:32 GMT
Thank you all for the suggestions.  I have contacted a travel agent
whom I bought my US<->Japan ticket from, and she says she will contact
Northwest and Airchina for me to inquire about the matter.  Hopefully I
won't need to collect my luggage and exit/re-enter custom in Japan.
I'll update when i heard from the travel agent.  thanks!

Ihsiu

> > > Hi all,
> > >
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> > it, and it could take an extra 15~30 minutes to get a supervisor, etc.,
> > to help them.
 
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