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Best Hotel Deals in Central Jakarta

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ps - 25 Feb 2006 01:19 GMT
Hi folks
Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would like to
stay in central Jakarta,,,prefer 4* or 5* hotels. Are there any good deals
around? Will appreciate suggestions.
ps
Tchiowa - 25 Feb 2006 10:54 GMT
> Hi folks
> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would like to
> stay in central Jakarta,,,prefer 4* or 5* hotels. Are there any good deals
> around? Will appreciate suggestions.

The Marriott is close to downtown but far enough from the center not to
have the congestion. Great hotel. Not much good shopping in the area if
that's what you're looking for.

Mandarin Oriental is closer to the business area. Walking distance from
several good shopping areas and restaurants.

Marriott is a better hotel. Mandarin is a bit cheaper but still 4 star.
LarbGai - 25 Feb 2006 21:03 GMT
>> Hi folks
>> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4
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> Marriott is a better hotel. Mandarin is a bit cheaper
> but still 4 star.

******For someone whose only contact with real Thai's and
Thailand is from the air-conditioned comfort of a luxury
hotel you can rely on Tchiowa's opinion.

;-)
RAK - 26 Feb 2006 05:20 GMT
>>> Hi folks
>>> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would
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>
> ;-)
It's not my job to defend Tchiowa, but what has Thailand got to do with it?
His answer is about hotels in Jakarta, which is in Indonesia.
And his suggestions look OK to me except that I think the Mandarin is a 5*.
Maybe you are the one who should get out more? :)
Tchiowa - 27 Feb 2006 14:30 GMT
> >>> Hi folks
> >>> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would
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> And his suggestions look OK to me except that I think the Mandarin is a 5*.
>  Maybe you are the one who should get out more? :)

Larby long ago deteriorated into a sniper with nothing to add but cheap
insults. I think you hit it on the head that his attitude is largely
due to his love of Asia (particularly Thailand) combined with his
inability to go there more than once every 5 years summing up to an
anger with anyone who does.

Now, back to the topic. Do you really think that the Mandarin is 5*?
I've stayed there maybe a dozen times. It's certainly a nice hotel but
it doesn't compare with the Hyatt across the plaza or with the JW. At
least not in my experience.
Markku Grönroos - 27 Feb 2006 14:41 GMT
"Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> kirjoitti
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>> > ;-)
>> It's not my job to defend Tchiowa, but what has Thailand got to do with
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> inability to go there more than once every 5 years summing up to an
> anger with anyone who does.

Those who maintain a killfile, you add a line in it.
LarbGai - 27 Feb 2006 19:51 GMT
> Larby long ago deteriorated into a sniper with nothing
> to add but cheap
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> summing up to an
> anger with anyone who does.

*****   *GRIN*    Ahhhh Titchy, I see you still remember
me.

What about a few more stories of your 'exploits' in the
GoGo Bars old bean.
They are a lot more exciting than your pro GWB rants of
late.

From: "Joao Borboleta" <tchiowa2@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Subject: Re: Bangkok to Pattaya  tchiowa2@xxxxxxx.xxxx
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True, that's cheap. But for $10-15 more you take a taxi
from the airport
queue directly to your hotel in Pattaya, don't wait even
one minute for a
bus, don't go to the bus terminal, don't wait there for
another bus, don't
ride in a bus to Pattaya, and don't change to a taxi at
the bus station. I'm
either in my hotel asleep, eating at a nice restaurant,
or "misbehaving" at
a local go-go while you're still on the bus.

For me that's easily worth the extra $10.
RAK - 25 Feb 2006 15:26 GMT
> Hi folks
> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would like
> to stay in central Jakarta,,,prefer 4* or 5* hotels. Are there any good
> deals around? Will appreciate suggestions.
> ps

These people have good rates  http://www.goindotel.com/ Sometimes the
website does not work well, and sometimes the list of deals is not up to
date so confirm by email. Or just wait until you get to the airport, few
hotels are full, most are probably under 50% full, some far under.

They also run the hotel booking desk in the airport, just by where you
collect luggage (international terminal)
There are good deals available, and Indotel probably have the better ones
(at least they used, I haven't checked lately).
You could be paying anything from US$50 to $200+. Usually rates are ++, i.e.
add 21% for tax and service to the base rate.

As for hotels:
- If you are there for business, where is your office?  No point in wasting
an hour or two in traffic each day.
- Do you need leisure facilities - good pool, tennis, gardens, etc?

That would narrow the range.

Some options which should have OK rates:
- Borobudur - great for leisure - 50M pool, indoor and outdoor tennis,
squash, gardens, jogging track. But rooms are not the best and location is
in the government rather than business area. I have seem rates around $75++.
5* but not the rooms.
- Hilton - good location, where Sudirman crosses the toll road to airport,
great for sport, but food can be below par for a 5*. Very big grounds, gold
driving range next door, but nowhere nearby to walk to.
- Mandarin and Le Meridien - smaller 5 stars, both have good service in my
experience; in the middle of the business area
- Aryaduta - was the Hyatt and I thing still managed by Hyatt  lost the name
for political reasons, not their fault. Probably the cheapest of the 5*,
good service, but so-so pool etc. Govt area. Maybe still 5*, or could be 4
- There is a new Ritz Carlton, good location by the Marriot - I heard they
are doing good deals while they are new. Business area, between Kuningan and
Sudirman. 5* upper end.
- Nikko - 4*? Nicely rebuilt a couple of years back, looks good. Good rates
I hear. Very central
- Aston - apartment hotel - good location near Sudirman, probably bigger
than average rooms. 4*?

Lots of others, depending on what you need, and where.
There is not really an obvious centre to Jakarta, or there are several
- Old Jakarta & Chinatown, now mostly run down
- The Monas/Thamrin area - goverment offices
- Thamrin/Sudirman area - modern business centre, most of the multinationals
etc
- Kuningan, another business area not far from Sudirman
- South Jakarta - residential and some industrial estate (some oil companies
there)

If there is a centre I would place it at the Hotel Indonesia roundabout,
where you find the Grand Hyatt hotel, the Nikko and the Mandarin.
ps - 26 Feb 2006 00:13 GMT
Thanks for that detailed reply.
I am trying to book at the Park Lane (who also run hotel in HKG). Their
website shows promotion where you pay for 2 nights and you get the third
night free,,,works out to around usd60 per night.
Will check out the Ritz-Carlton too.
ps

>> Hi folks
>> Planning to do a trip to JKT 06 Mar,,,for 3 or maybe 4 nights. Would like
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RAK - 26 Feb 2006 05:16 GMT
> Thanks for that detailed reply.
> I am trying to book at the Park Lane (who also run hotel in HKG). Their
> website shows promotion where you pay for 2 nights and you get the third
> night free,,,works out to around usd60 per night.
> Will check out the Ritz-Carlton too.
> ps

The Park Lane is a nice hotel, rather quiet as it is surrounded by
cemetaries.
The downside is that traffic can get pretty bad on that road, especially
between there and Sudirman the main business road.
ps - 26 Feb 2006 09:41 GMT
Thank you,,,I am not scared of cemeteries but I would rather be closer to
shopping centres and business district. I looked at a map showing Jakarta
hotels and the Hilton, though in South Jakarta, may be a better shot. I may
get benefit of Hilton HHonors as well. Anyway, I see Jakarta hotels good
value for money compared to other hotels elsewhere in Asia. Seems an awful
lot of 4* and 5* accommodation and perhaps not enough business,,,which keeps
a lid on rates.
ps

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>> I am trying to book at the Park Lane (who also run hotel in HKG). Their
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RAK - 26 Feb 2006 10:06 GMT
For shopping probably the best in Sudirman/Thamrin are:
- Grand Hyatt, which has the very upmarket Plaza Indonesia in the same
complex, and the more traditional Sarinah department store (which has a
floor of Indonesian handicrafts at the top) is about 5 minutes walk away.
- The Nikko and the Mandarin are just over the road from the Grand Hyatt,
both good and cheaper.

The Blok M area of south Jakarta is also good for shops. It has a more
upmarket Sarinah department store called Pasar Raya, plus some other posh
stuff, and lots of scruffy street market stuff neaby.
Hotel Ambara (spelling?) is just over the road, a pleasant enough 4*. There
is also a very nice boutique style Sofitel nearby, a long walk or short
drive from the Blok M shops (near Blok M Plaza), also near Koi (one of my
favourite restaurants anywhere) and the local pet and flower market.

The Hilton has nothing in walking distance but is roughly halfway between
Blok M and the Plaza Indonesia/Sarinah, i.e. maybe 10 min by taxi if you
avoid the rush hour. It is also close to Ratu Plaza, home of many computer
shops and suspiciously cheap DVDs.
But I do not think you will get you HHonors points - the Jakarta Hilton was
kicked out of the Hilton group a few years back, I think because they could
not pay their dues in the economic crisis. But they refused to take the name
down. Check if it is listed on the global Hilton site, if so I guess they
kissed and made up. It is, or was, the world's biggest Hilton, about 1100
rooms and 250 apartments. I think the Lagoon tower is nicest, Garden Tower
2nd best, main tower 3rd best, but all are OK.

As you say there is simply too much 5* accomodation here.

> Thank you,,,I am not scared of cemeteries but I would rather be closer to
> shopping centres and business district. I looked at a map showing Jakarta
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Tchiowa - 27 Feb 2006 14:26 GMT
> For shopping probably the best in Sudirman/Thamrin are:
> - Grand Hyatt, which has the very upmarket Plaza Indonesia in the same
> complex, and the more traditional Sarinah department store (which has a
> floor of Indonesian handicrafts at the top) is about 5 minutes walk away.
> - The Nikko and the Mandarin are just over the road from the Grand Hyatt,
> both good and cheaper.

Particularly Mandarin. The shopping at Sarinah is somewhat expensive
but you can get some good stuff there.

Speaking of which, and probably off topic, a friend of mine was just
back in Jakarta last week and told me that the Ratu Plaza 4th floor DVD
shopping area is gone. Indonesia finally honoring copyrights???
pied piper - 27 Feb 2006 18:31 GMT
>> For shopping probably the best in Sudirman/Thamrin are:
>> - Grand Hyatt, which has the very upmarket Plaza Indonesia in the same
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> back in Jakarta last week and told me that the Ratu Plaza 4th floor DVD
> shopping area is gone. Indonesia finally honoring copyrights???

le meridien always good rates also atlet century not bad
 
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