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Travel Forum / Travel Types / Cruises / July 2008Mayan Ruins in Progresso
I'm going to Progresso later this year and am interested in opinions and excursions to Uxmal, Dzibilchaltun, or Chichen Itza. Which is the best? I have teenagers so that might affect the decision as to which one to visit. Are private tours better that the ship sponsored ones? How much better priced are the private excursions? I was in Progresso many years ago. There wasn't much shopping then--what about now? Thanks for your help!! > I'm going to Progresso later this year and am interested in opinions and > excursions to Uxmal, Dzibilchaltun, or Chichen Itza. Which is the best? I > have teenagers so that might affect the decision as to which one to visit. > Are private tours better that the ship sponsored ones? > How much better priced are the private excursions? All 3 that you mention are very good to visit. This is one of the times I would use the ships excursions just to be sure the ship doesn't leave without you. Take a look at the tours the ship offers and choose one that works best for you and your teens timewise. sue When we went,we chose chichen nitza,a wonderful tour,but by now probably very expensive,and it is a long bus ride to get there,if i can remember right,it took about 3 hours. It was well worth seeing,and your children would probably love it.When we went it was $75.00 per person,but is now around $200.00 < cruise lover> I would second this opinion. Note that it is Progreso. > When we went,we chose chichen nitza,a wonderful tour,but by now probably > very expensive,and it is a long bus ride to get there,if i can remember [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > < > cruise lover> I would second this opinion. Note that it is Progreso. > When we went,we chose chichen nitza,a wonderful tour,but by now probably > very expensive,and it is a long bus ride to get there,if i can remember [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > < > cruise lover> > I'm going to Progresso later this year and am interested in opinions and > excursions to Uxmal, Dzibilchaltun, or Chichen Itza. Which is the best? I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks for your help!! I did Uxmal in Feb. Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But it's a longer drive, you can no longer climb the pyramid and the site is so huge that you can't even see a third of it. Uxmal still allows you to climb the pyramid. The drive is a bit shorter. And they have the most amazing (to me) section called the "nuns quadrangle" that really blew my mind... more so than the pyramid itself. Which by no means a small one. The price in Feb for either Chichen Itza or Uxmal was $79 per person. It really comes down to a few questions. Would you rather see only a part of an amazing site or see almost all of one that's just as magnificent. I have a massive dream to visit Chichen Itza, but I insist on staying at one of the hotels on site for 3 or 4 days so I can see it all. Plus I really want to share that top 3 dream of mine, with my partner, Jarrod. Plus I want to be there for Spring Equinox. That's when thousands of people congregate there. They have a nighttime laser show. Plus there's an amazing site where at a certain time, the steps to El Castillo (the largest pyramid at Chichen Itza) have a shadow that literally looks like a snake slithering down the steps meeting with the head of a serpent at the bottom... wait til then and book a few nights so you can see that and the rest of the site itself! Go for Uxmal. It's easier to get to plus you have about an hour to explore on your own. There are also a few shops outside to do a bit of shopping for Mayan/local crafts. I'm biased, though. Of the several Mayan sites I've visited, it's by far my favorite. LES!  SignatureTo email me privately, please remove YOUR CLOTHES CruiseAddict@gmail.comYOURCLOTHES If you experience.... ... lasting more than 4 hours... ... ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! > I did Uxmal in Feb. Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But > it's a longer drive, you can no longer climb the pyramid and the site > is so huge that you can't even see a third of it. In a perfect world you would see both sites. But if not Chichen Itza is the one to see. > I'm biased, though. Of the several Mayan sites I've visited, it's by far my > favorite. But as you said, you have not been to Chichen Itza. SignatureCharles > Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But it's > a longer drive, you can no longer climb the pyramid and the site is so > huge that you can't even see a third of it. Do you know when they stoped letting you climb the pyramid? We were there in 1/2003 and at that time you could still climb it. sue >> Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But it's a longer drive, you >> can no longer climb the pyramid and the site is so huge that you can't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > sue I was last there in October 2004 and we could still climb it then. We shot two of our Doctor Who celebrity/fan creative workshop videos in 2003 & 2004 there among the beautiful sights (but oddly enough, we "faked" the close-up shots supposedly taking place atop the pyramid days later at an entirely different Myan site in Belize, and most people don't notice the difference.) Signature***** WhoCruiser@aol.com is Dan Harris ***** WhoCruiser's Personal Home Page: http://members.aol.com/WhoCruiser Read about The Sci-Fi Sea Cruise at: http://www.scificruise.com Purr-use The Cat House at: http://members.aol.com/LookAtMyCatsPage >> Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But it's a longer drive, you >> can no longer climb the pyramid and the site is so huge that you can't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > sue I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. It's been closed since to climbers. It's still be a top place that I want to visit (Spring Equinox of course) LES! SignatureTo email me privately, please remove YOUR CLOTHES CruiseAddict@gmail.comYOURCLOTHES If you experience.... ... lasting more than 4 hours... ... ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! > I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her > death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. > > It's been closed since to climbers. It's still be a top place that I want to > visit (Spring Equinox of course) That is a shame that a lady fell. As I recall the steps are narrow so maybe tourists should not be climbing El Castillo. Still that is not a reason not to visit Chichen Itza. It is an archeological site. The purpose of visiting it is not climbing the pyramid. SignatureCharles "Charles" Still that is not a > reason not to visit Chichen Itza. It is an archeological site. The > purpose of visiting it is not climbing the pyramid. Very true. I mentioned that I'd love to go there. It's a huge dream of mine. But the site is so extensive you can't possibly see 1/3rd of the place before it's time to go. I'd much rather take a land vacation so I can have a few days to see it all. LES! SignatureTo email me privately, please remove YOUR CLOTHES CruiseAddict@gmail.comYOURCLOTHES If you experience.... ... lasting more than 4 hours... ... ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! > Very true. I mentioned that I'd love to go there. It's a huge dream of mine. > But the site is so extensive you can't possibly see 1/3rd of the place > before it's time to go. I'd much rather take a land vacation so I can have a > few days to see it all. I agree that it would be best to visit from a land vacation. That is what I did. Even one day from a land vacation would be better than the few hours you would have during a cruise day. Or a couple of days and stay one night at the hotel there. SignatureCharles >>I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her >>death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > reason not to visit Chichen Itza. It is an archeological site. The > purpose of visiting it is not climbing the pyramid. I was there 30 years ago and those steps looked too steep for me even way back then. (before I became a senior citizen <g>). Ermalee >>>I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her >>>death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I was there 30 years ago and those steps looked too steep for me even >way back then. (before I became a senior citizen <g>). Haven't been to Chichen Itza, but we went to Tikal and spent 2 days there in 1998. I determined in advance that because of bad knees, I was not going to do any climbing, and I didn't. Bob said it reminded him too much of the step test that he had to do before he began flight training, so he didn't do much either. We visited at the time of the full moon so we could see it rise over the pyramids, Unfortunately, it was cloudy. This was the sunset http://cache.virtualtourist.com/644400-Sunset_over_Temple_2-Parque_Nacional_Tikal.jpg grandma Rosalie http://www12.virtualtourist.com/m/4a9c6/ ",,an adventure is an inconvenience rightly considered." G. K. Chesterton http://cache.virtualtourist.com/3739119-Travel_Picture-My_family.jpg >> I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her >> death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > reason not to visit Chichen Itza. It is an archeological site. The > purpose of visiting it is not climbing the pyramid. This is the view from the top and I wish I had been able to climb to see it in person: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1261121148014545039apNqqY This is the stairs and you can see how narrow and steep the steps are: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1261121595014545039DnQDun sue The steps at the mayan ruins are very narrow,and steep,when we went my husband climbed them,but i did not,my little short legs could not make it from one step to the next,so i opted to remain below,and take movies of him climbing. He could not do it today,he is too old. < cruise lover> [Default] Thus spake Charles <fort@his.com.remove.invalid>: >> I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to her >> death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >reason not to visit Chichen Itza. It is an archeological site. The >purpose of visiting it is not climbing the pyramid. Correct. The climbing was ended because the million or so people who were climbing it every year were slowly destroying it. It was being loved to death. > I believe it was in 2006 or 2007. There was an elderly lady that fell to > her death. Whoever let her climb alone should get in tons of trouble. > It's been closed since to climbers. It's still be a top place that I > want to visit (Spring Equinox of course) It is a shame that she fell and died, but each person has to take responsibility for what they are able to do. The steps are very narrow and steep, hard to climb for a young, healthy person. We were on an Apple Tour from our hotel and the guide warned us that people not in decent shape or those with breathing problems should not climb. I did not climb because of my asthma. Most people who did climb, including young energetic people, came down on their butts. I can't see any elderly person, even in good shape, going up those stairs. Kevin has always been very interested in Mayan history and wants to go back on a land vacation so he can spend a lot more time there. sue > It is a shame that she fell and died, but each person has to take > responsibility for what they are able to do. The steps are very narrow [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > sue Sue, is this where Kevin took a photo of the dog, who was curled up and sleeping at the top of the climb? I laughed when I saw that photo. I guess the dog was tired after his climb. lol Les, I mentioned this a few years ago; I think you would enjoy visiting Xunantunich in Belize. Their museum has a diorama of the site and a depiction of the evolution of Maya civilization. "El Castillo" is 130 feet, you see a panoramic view of the jungle canopy, the Mopan and Belize River valleys, the Guatemalan Peten District, which is only a few miles away. Becca >> It is a shame that she fell and died, but each person has to take >> responsibility for what they are able to do. The steps are very narrow [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Belize River valleys, the Guatemalan Peten District, which is only a few > miles away. Yes, this is where Kevin got the photo of the dog. Just look one or two pictures forward or backwards on the link I posted. I think Xunantunich is what Kevin wants to do in Belize, I think that is on the Sleezy? sue >> Sue, is this where Kevin took a photo of the dog, who was curled up >> and sleeping at the top of the climb? I laughed when I saw that photo. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > sue Yes, we are going to Belize, Roatan, Cozumel and Grand Cayman. You and Kevin will enjoy seeing Xunantunich. Plenty to see without walking through a lot of jungle. I have not decided what I will do in Belize. In Roatan, I think we are doing the boat tour that Mary Channel did once before. I love the beaches at Roatan. Becca >>> Sue, is this where Kevin took a photo of the dog, who was curled up >>> and sleeping at the top of the climb? I laughed when I saw that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > In Roatan, I think we are doing the boat tour that Mary Channel did once > before. I love the beaches at Roatan. We so badly need a cruise right now, but I am just not in cruise mode yet. Maybe after Aug. 6th I will feel like getting going.lol I thought the boat tour was in Belize and Kevin wanted to do some ruins instead. I hope that this trip we can talk Kevin into lots of beach time. sue > We so badly need a cruise right now, but I am just not in cruise mode > yet. Maybe after Aug. 6th I will feel like getting going.lol [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > sue You are right, the boat tour is in Belize. The beaches in Roatan are my favorite. I will have to remember to bring bug spray for the no see'ems. I get tiny red spots that disappear in a couple of hours. They do not bother me at all. They are rough on George, though, he gets scars when they bite him. Becca On 7/11/2008 11:09 PM Sue Mullen plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said: >>>> Sue, is this where Kevin took a photo of the dog, who was curled up >>>> and sleeping at the top of the climb? I laughed when I saw that [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > sue Sue, In the meantime, maybe a land vacation in coastal South Carolina. One of the outer islands, St. Helena has a few bungalows to rent. It is not very commercialized as is Hilton Head. This is the first island settled by freed slaves and free Africans, who never were slaves. Frogmore is the only city. It is the site of the first school for African-Americans, built by African-Americans, and run by African-Americans. Before and during the War Between the States the school was terrorized by whites from the mainland. All that remains is the foundation. You need to ask one of the locals in Frogmore for the location. It is not marked out very well. The beaches on St. Helena aren't developed for tourism. They are very natural. Fishing is a main pastime. I was to St. Helena, Althea, a friend who was born and raised on St. Helena was my personal guide. Signature________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 >>> We so badly need a cruise right now, but I am just not in cruise mode >>> yet. Maybe after Aug. 6th I will feel like getting going.lol > In the meantime, maybe a land vacation in coastal South Carolina. One of > the outer islands, St. Helena has a few bungalows to rent. It is not [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > natural. Fishing is a main pastime. I was to St. Helena, Althea, a > friend who was born and raised on St. Helena was my personal guide. Brian, thanks for this, it does sound interesting, but right now we don't have the time for this. In a week or so we are flying to Ohio for a family gathering and probably early Sept. driving upstate NY to visit some very close friends. The rest of our time is taken up with appointments and stuff. At least we have a couple of cruises to look forward to, late Oct and early Feb. and we can't wait. sue On 7/10/2008 1:52 AM Babie plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said: >>> Originally I wanted to go to Chichen Itza. But it's a longer drive, >>> you can no longer climb the pyramid and the site is so huge that you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > LES! If you were so inclined, you could infer that the Mayan gods still demand human sacrifice and take it whether it's offered or not! There was probably a Spanish language tabloid in Mexico City that had this very headline. Signature________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 > I'm going to Progresso later this year and am interested in opinions and > excursions to Uxmal, Dzibilchaltun, or Chichen Itza. I prefer the Vegetable Classics Soup 99% Fat Free Minestrone but that's me. Signaturehttp://www.bushflash.com/idiot.html |
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