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Jack - 01 Jul 2009 19:58 GMT We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young anymore have.
Should we be sure to have all the bottles the medicine came in or will the normal pill boxes work?
Thanks
Jack.
PeterL - 01 Jul 2009 20:23 GMT > We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. > We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jack. No need. I put my pills in little zip lock plastic bag, each one with a label. No one ever checks. I've been to Europe, Asia and Canada with them.
Sue Mullen - 01 Jul 2009 21:04 GMT >> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > a label. No one ever checks. I've been to Europe, Asia and Canada > with them. PeterL, you just lucked out, this is not good advice.
All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is true for prescription or OTC meds/supplements.
sue
Nonny - 02 Jul 2009 00:08 GMT >>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > sue Good advice. Our pharmacy is Walgreens for everything and our HMO has an online service that lists all current prescriptions. While this is not "tested," what we do is prepackage the pills we take on a daily basis into weekly containers. I print out the list from Walgreens web site and also the one from the HMO. If there is any question, at least I'll have both online and/or paper evidence that we have a prescription for whatever is being questioned.
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Joseph Coulter - 02 Jul 2009 00:16 GMT >> All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is >> true for prescription or OTC meds/supplements. >> >> sue >Exactly I always take the paperwork for the meds but admit if they want the vitamins, they can have 'em Joseph Coulter Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations www.josephcoulter.com
Ermalee McCauley - 02 Jul 2009 04:33 GMT >>>All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is >>>true for prescription or OTC meds/supplements. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations > www.josephcoulter.com Hi Joe, Thanks for your help in accessing the newsgroups.
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Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:16 GMT On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > www.josephcoulter.com > If the pills aren't in the original bottles with labels, I don't think that the paperwork will help you at a port of entry where there is heavy drug trafficking. From the customs and security officer's prospective those pills in the bottles could be X, meth, or oxy.
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Jack Hamilton - 04 Jul 2009 19:00 GMT >On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >drug trafficking. From the customs and security officer's prospective >those pills in the bottles could be X, meth, or oxy. How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new ones.
If the inspector can identify pills by sight, they don't need to be in original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in the "original" bottles.
Rosalie B. - 04 Jul 2009 21:05 GMT >>On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed: >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new >ones. I've always wondered that too. My Tylenol has the name stamped on them. And I agree if they want my Calcium pills or the aspirin I can easily buy more. The only pills that I really need to have are the BP ones - one of which has a heart stamped on it.
Actually I put all the pills that I need for the trip in a pill keeper which holds 2 weeks worth. Then I have a couple of extra days worth in day keepers. I put the bottle labels on the back of the pill keeper, and I try to keep copies of the prescriptions too.
I also take an non-aspirin pain reliever which is prescription that I am always careful to take during dinner with a full stomach, so I don't put them in the pill keeper - I just take the pill from the original bottle. In that bottle I put extra pills for all the prescriptions. That's the only original bottle I take, and it doesn't have just the original prescription in it.
>If the inspector can identify pills by sight, they don't need to be in >original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in >the "original" bottles. I do have a funny story about that - I was in a wheelchair going through Heathrow and I had put my day's medicines in their plastic holder into my armpit pocket thing under my clothes where I thought it would be fairly safe from pickpockets. They did a pat down of me since I hadn't gotten up out of the wheelchair to walk through the scanner (and since then I've always walked through having learned my lesson).
The pills under my arm rattled and they wanted to see them, but I was wearing a full length dress (as opposed to a blouse and skirt) and I was not wearing a bra. So I said I'd have to pull the dress up to my neck to get to it. So they took me into a private room, and I undressed and showed them what I had, and they had no problem with the pills not being in original containers. Of course it was just 4 or 5 pills including aspirin.
I was traveling with my grandson and he got a big kick out of it - he kept saying "Grandma had a cavity search"
Nonny - 04 Jul 2009 22:52 GMT We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable. One of the things they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the health records, including prescriptions and a direct link to the HMO's attended website. In the event of a problem or emergency, any CD reader can read the health record, see prescribing information, test results, appointments, diagnosis and even the reports by specialists. By clicking on a link, the ER physician can also go direct to the HMO's attended website for more information, including permission to admit, transport etc.
It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription meds, but it sure helps.
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Jean O'Boyle - 04 Jul 2009 23:54 GMT > We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable. One of the things they do > is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the health records, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription meds, but > it sure helps. Sounds like the HMO that we belong to, Nonny...All my medical records are on a bracelet that I keep in my purse and all of Ed's are on a key chain. What amazes me is that they are automatically updated when something is added from a doctor's visit.
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Nonny - 05 Jul 2009 06:48 GMT >> We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable. One of the >> things they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > --Jean Wow, the CD itself is not updated, but we can replace it when we request. However, our medical records on the HMO's computer system are updated each visit and the CD includes the link to the HMO's staffed website, where the information is available. The user merely selects to use the data on the CD or the updated data from the HMO. Either way, it's darned good and a wonderful application of technology to help people.
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JCarnaghie - 05 Jul 2009 22:09 GMT >>> We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable. One of the things >>> they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > use the data on the CD or the updated data from the HMO. Either way, > it's darned good and a wonderful application of technology to help people. Dear Nonny, What is the name of your HMO? Please reply either in the newsgroup or directly. Cheers, John in LALALand (On the Left Coast)
Jack Hamilton - 05 Jul 2009 02:10 GMT >We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable. One of the things >they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription >meds, but it sure helps. My HMO (Kaiser Permanente) offers a thumb drive with medical records. I haven't gotten one because I couldn't think of what I might use it for. I guess I should get one.
Sue Mullen - 10 Jul 2009 04:22 GMT > How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not > oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in > the "original" bottles. Recently I have seen a description of the pills on the label when I get a prescription filled. This way I guess they can read the label and look at the pills to see that they match the description.
sue
Jack Hamilton - 10 Jul 2009 05:12 GMT >> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not >> oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >a prescription filled. This way I guess they can read the label and look >at the pills to see that they match the description. I've seen "pill" and "capsule", but not descriptions of colors and patterns. Perhaps it depends on the pharmacy's computer system. Generics vary with every manufacturer, and would be hard to keep track of automatically.
Sue Mullen - 10 Jul 2009 06:06 GMT >>> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not >>> oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Generics vary with every manufacturer, and would be hard to keep track > of automatically. I just looked and some say caplet, capsule etc and give the color. Some also say "generic for xxx". I have seen this from our mail order pharmacy as well as our local supermarket pharmacy, but both are through our prescription plan and that may be who controlls the info.
sue
Dillon Pyron - 16 Jul 2009 02:52 GMT [Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>:
>>>> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not >>>> oxycontin? You could have taken out the old pills and put in new [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >sue There is a new reg coming out of the FDA that will require a description of the medication's physical appearance. All of mine say things like "five sided light blue scored on one side, 1066 on the reverse", as well as "generic substitution for Lamictal 200 mg"
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Sue Mullen - 16 Jul 2009 03:02 GMT > [Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > things like "five sided light blue scored on one side, 1066 on the > reverse", as well as "generic substitution for Lamictal 200 mg" Yes, a lot of our prescription labels are that way also.
I keep an old set of prescription bottles in a box for when we travel. Guess I better make sure all of our "travel" bottles are the new ones. I doubt they will ever be checked, but better safe then sorry.
sue
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2009 00:31 GMT >>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > sue I can see the logic of this advice, but I'm wondering if anyone has ever actually been challenged.
My wife and I have traveled all over Europe and South America as well as Canada and Mexico and never been challenged about the contents of our medical kits. We've always had unlabeled bottles of vitamins and supplements with us.
Coming back to the U.S. we've seen drug sniffing dogs, but I think they're trained to sniff for specific illegal drugs (we don't use those!) The dogs have never had a problem with our bags.
Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for prescription documentation purely hypothetical?
Alan
Rosalie B. - 02 Jul 2009 02:12 GMT >>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for >prescription documentation purely hypothetical? I've never been challenged and we usually have the medicines in a weekly dispensing box. I take copies of the prescriptions with me, but no one has ever asked.
However - I also take a signed notarized statement from both of my grandchild's parents that I have their permission to be taking their child out of the country, and only once has anyone even asked about it and that was when we were changing planes in Heathrow.
My mother was given a hard time when going through Checkpoint Charley with my daughter in the 70s, but that was then.
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2009 04:05 GMT ...
> However - I also take a signed notarized statement from both of my > grandchild's parents that I have their permission to be taking their > child out of the country, and only once has anyone even asked about it > and that was when we were changing planes in Heathrow. ...
That reminds me of a time many years ago when my wife and I crossed from the U.S. into Canada in an RV.
A bored Canadian border guard recited a list of questions in an off-hand manner. "Are you carrying any guns, explosives, drugs, or large sums of money?"
I said, "No" to each.
Then the boredom disappeared and he looked at me very severely and asked me in a very suspicious tone, "Are you bringing any children into Canada?"
It gave me a new perspective on where the real dangers in life and international travel reside ;)
Alan
Kurt Ullman - 02 Jul 2009 14:33 GMT > Then the boredom disappeared and he looked at me very severely > and asked me in a very suspicious tone, "Are you bringing any > children into Canada?" > > It gave me a new perspective on where the real dangers in life > and international travel reside ;) Pure Bureaucracy CYA. You bring in dope and get caught nobody cares all that much in real life how you got through. A kid comes in who has been taken out of the country by non-custodial parent or (even worse) pedophile and the cops (and press) will back track their every movement and the sh** storm will arise in full fury if you were the one that let them through. A perspective on the real dangers in the life of an immigration worker.
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Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:32 GMT On 7/1/2009 9:12 PM Rosalie B. while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> >> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > On my return from Jamaica to Newark, my carry on was searched. I had all my Rx in their original bottles. But I had some OTC stuff in a daily pill caddy. I was asked to accompany a guard into an office where I was questioned by a Fed. A scraping was taken from each of my OTC pills. The scrapings were tested. Only after the results came back negative was I released. I was given an official apology with the explanation that they were acting only to stem the tide of drugs entering the US illegally. I thought about it as I walked towards ground transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in them), and a souvenir Bob Marley T-shirt without any Marijuana illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile. But saying this does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched.
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Lee - 05 Jul 2009 17:03 GMT >transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a >beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in >them), and a souvenir Bob Marley T-shirt without any Marijuana >illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile. But saying this >does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched. The government uses profiles?!?! I am, simply stunned.
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Marsha - 05 Jul 2009 19:12 GMT >> transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a >> beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The government uses profiles?!?! I am, simply stunned. Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole. They pulled her aside in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to stand on one foot while leaning against a post, without letting her sit down or waiting for her cane to go through x-ray. She doesn't even resemble Osama or McVeigh.
Marsha
Jack Hamilton - 05 Jul 2009 22:26 GMT >>> transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a >>> beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >or waiting for her cane to go through x-ray. She doesn't even resemble >Osama or McVeigh. The next terrorists probably *won't* resemble Osama or McVeigh. They'll be people who can get through security because they look innocent.
But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly.
Briggsie - 05 Jul 2009 23:48 GMT Yes, the next terrorists are going to be ancient grannies who have gone through terrorist school and remember the information. They will load bombs into their SAS shoes. Uh huh....
>>>> transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had >>>> a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly. Brian K - 07 Jul 2009 00:49 GMT On 7/5/2009 6:48 PM Briggsie while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> Yes, the next terrorists are going to be ancient grannies who have > gone through terrorist school and remember the information. They will > load bombs into their SAS shoes. Uh huh.... It could happen. Suicide al qaeda grannies with hookahs wearing black burkhas.
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>>>>> transportation. I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I >>>>> had a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly. Kurt Ullman - 05 Jul 2009 22:37 GMT > Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole. They pulled her aside > in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to stand [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Marsha She was in the CYA category. Those chosen specifically to keep the people who habitually yell "Profiling" from doing so.
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Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 00:46 GMT >> Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole. They pulled >> her aside [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the > people who habitually yell "Profiling" from doing so. Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I want to tell them that a gray haired guy like me isn't going to use a stolen CC for something like that, but I understand that they're just doing what they're told. Mrs. Nonny is always searched on her scooter at the airport, and we understand why.
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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 01:58 GMT > Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's > asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I > want to tell them that a gray haired guy like me isn't going to use a > stolen CC for something like that, but I understand that they're just > doing what they're told. Mrs. Nonny is always searched on her scooter > at the airport, and we understand why. I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC, if the charge has already been approved. I refused to show ID at Circuit City once and they backed down, saying it was only for my protection. As a consumer, it's my responsibility to keep track of my CC, not the store.
Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 02:07 GMT >I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC Hi Marsha,
It is certainly not illegal in most, if not all, states.
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Bill - 06 Jul 2009 02:21 GMT >> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's >> asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Marsha Was your card signed? If it isn't, I think they are allowed to ask for id.
Bill
Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 02:58 GMT >>> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's >>> asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bill My credit card was signed. The back of every CC I've seen says invalid if not signed. That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID. But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card has been run through their machine and approved.
Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 03:31 GMT >But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card >has been run through their machine and approved. Hi Marsha,
Private companies have the right to request the ID. You have the right to refuse the request. At that point it is up to the clerk if they wish to accept your card. It is ashame that there is so much credit card fraud but I certainly understand merchants that wish to protect themselves.
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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 03:52 GMT >> But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card >> has been run through their machine and approved. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > -- Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is not to ask for ID. I can't speak for other cards.
Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 04:02 GMT >Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is >not to ask for ID. I can't speak for other cards. Hi Marsha,
As I said earlier there is no law in most, if not all states forbidding the merchant from asking for the ID. Different bank card issuers can make their own "policies".
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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 04:06 GMT >> Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is >> not to ask for ID. I can't speak for other cards. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Best regards, > Ray Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for ID, but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant to refuse the sale.
Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 04:18 GMT >Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the >CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for >ID, but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant >to refuse the sale. Hi Marsha,
You made me curious and that always leads to learning something. <:+) I just checked the CA law. It specifically states that: (d) This section does not prohibit any person, firm, partnership, association, or corporation from requiring the cardholder, as a condition to accepting the credit card as payment in full or in part for goods or services, to provide reasonable forms of positive identification, which may include a driver's license or a California state identification card, or where one of these is not available, another form of photo identification, provided that none of the information contained thereon is written or recorded on the credit card transaction form or otherwise. If the cardholder pays for the transaction with a credit card number and does not make the credit card available upon request to verify the number, the cardholder's driver's license number or identification card number may be recorded on the credit card transaction form or otherwise.
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Bill - 08 Jul 2009 04:54 GMT > Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the > CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for ID, > but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant to > refuse the sale. > > Marsha The same agreement that says they're not allowed to have minimum purchase amounts when using their card, and which they routinely ignore complaints about?
Bill
Marsha - 09 Jul 2009 02:25 GMT >> Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the >> CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for ID, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bill The 3 or 4 places that I have challenged about their minimum purchase requirement have backed down.
Marsha
Jack Hamilton - 06 Jul 2009 04:21 GMT >>Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is >>not to ask for ID. I can't speak for other cards. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >forbidding the merchant from asking for the ID. Different bank card >issuers can make their own "policies". http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs15-mt.htm#2a says that in California a merchant can ask to see an ID, but can't record the information on it.
A bit further down, it quotes parts of the merchant agreements with MasterCard and Visa, which say that ID cannot be required as a condition for paying by credit card.
Lee - 06 Jul 2009 10:27 GMT >My credit card was signed. The back of every CC I've seen says invalid >if not signed. That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID. I've told this here before -- in the signature spot on the back of his credit card, a friend of mine wrote "Ask for ID"
No one ever did.
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Briggsie - 06 Jul 2009 14:16 GMT I wrote that on one of my cards, and I always get asked for ID with only that card.
>>My credit card was signed. The back of every CC I've seen says invalid >>if not signed. That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No one ever did. Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 03:57 GMT >> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at >> Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Marsha With me, it's no big deal. I have my wallet in hand, since I got the card out, and the ID is in a holder making it visible when I open the wallet. If it lets them actually get 'curious' with the creeps, that's OK with me to help them get out of a profiling complaint.
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Rosalie B. - 06 Jul 2009 13:43 GMT >>> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at >>> Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Marsha What I won't do is give them my phone number and/or email address like they ask for at Radio Shack. It has been a long time since I was asked for an ID for a credit card, but at least once, someone has taken our number off a transaction and tried to use it to charge additional stuff.
>With me, it's no big deal. I have my wallet in hand, since I got >the card out, and the ID is in a holder making it visible when I >open the wallet. If it lets them actually get 'curious' with the >creeps, that's OK with me to help them get out of a profiling >complaint. RayC - 06 Jul 2009 20:31 GMT > I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC, if the charge > has already been approved. I refused to show ID at Circuit City once > and they backed down, saying it was only for my protection. As a > consumer, it's my responsibility to keep track of my CC, not the store. > > Marsha Not illegal ... just stupid credit card company rules. "Although Visa rules do not preclude merchants from asking for cardholder ID, merchants cannot make an ID a condition of acceptance. Therefore, merchants cannot refuse to complete a purchase transaction because a cardholder refuses to provide ID."
If a store takes your credit card, they are accepting the problems associated with chargebacks. Checking ID at the time of purchase as a policy is one way that the store can tell the card companies that they are doing their best to limit fraud.
Several years ago I got hit with a $6000+ fraudulent purchase. Because I could not verify the identity of the purchaser, I had to pay the full purchase amount back ... even though the purchaser was long gone with the goods.
All the credit card merchant rules are stacked in favor of the card company first, the card holder second and the merchant last.
I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID. In fact, I thank business for asking me for a picture ID.
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Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 20:33 GMT >I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID. In fact, >I thank business for asking me for a picture ID. Hi Ray,
Amen to that. Most folks have no idea the amount of credit card fraud that is perpetuated on honest merchants.
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Kurt Ullman - 06 Jul 2009 21:05 GMT > I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID. In fact, > I thank business for asking me for a picture ID. Then you would spend most of your time suspicious in Indiana. I can't remember the last time I got asked for an ID and there is only one gas station that I know that even asks for zip code.
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Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 21:53 GMT >> I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID. >> In fact, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > one gas > station that I know that even asks for zip code. Perhaps you look more honest and dignified than I do, Kurt. <grin>
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Kurt Ullman - 06 Jul 2009 23:25 GMT > >> I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID. > >> In fact, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Perhaps you look more honest and dignified than I do, Kurt. <grin> I hope not for your sake. (grin).
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Brian K - 07 Jul 2009 00:53 GMT On 7/5/2009 7:46 PM Nonny while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>> Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole. They pulled her aside >>> in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > doing what they're told. Mrs. Nonny is always searched on her scooter > at the airport, and we understand why. I think I saw Mrs. Nonny in her pimped out scooter with the Harley-Davidson Soft Tail Custom look and a Sportster engine. She went from zero to 95 in 30 seconds flat. Mrs. Nonny is the very epitome of what they mean when they sing "Get your kicks on Route 66!" Za-Zoom, there she goes doing a wheelie!
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Dillon Pyron - 10 Jul 2009 03:49 GMT [Default] Thus spake Brian K <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net>:
>On 7/1/2009 9:12 PM Rosalie B. while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed: >> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile. But saying this >does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched. But they didn't ask you about the hand rolled cigarettes?
I once watched a guy get hassled over an extra bottle of tequilla, but the agent totally missed the ten Cuban cigars in the guy's sports coat.
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Dillon Pyron - 02 Jul 2009 03:58 GMT [Default] Thus spake Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com>:
>>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for >prescription documentation purely hypothetical? Once, long ago, in a much forgotten land and time when I looked like a hippie (a hippie with a six figure income, but still). I got the "step over here" treatment and, of course, had a bottle of Vicodin in my carry on. The guy looked at it and started to pour them into his hand when I told him to stop and put on a glove. He didn't fiddle with any of the other prescription meds, so I guess I could have put crack cocaine in one of them. This was on a flight from Cozumel to Dallas. As we all know, Cozumel was a major trafficing source in the mid 80s.
I was also asked if I had any prescription medications when I arrived in Sydney. I said yes and he asked if they all had a label indicating what they were and who prescribed them. I said yes and he said thank you, enjoy your holiday.
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Neal Eckhardt - 02 Jul 2009 15:06 GMT >I can see the logic of this advice, but I'm wondering if anyone >has ever actually been challenged. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Alan A coworker has flown to Florida several times in the last two years. He once commented that he never put his carry-on "fluids" in the quart sized bags. We mentioned that doing so was a requirement (and proved it to him) and he said that he never heard of that, and he never saw anybody else doing that.
He has flown at least two or three times since then, and still swears that nobody actually shows their carry-on toiletries when going through the security checkpoint.
Strange!
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Bert Hyman - 02 Jul 2009 15:15 GMT In news:2gfp459tl23u0ssiak70jis8f5aarajrbh@4ax.com Neal Eckhardt <neckhardt@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
> He has flown at least two or three times since then, and still swears > that nobody actually shows their carry-on toiletries when going > through the security checkpoint. He's simply not paying attention.
Even if he was, he's only had an opportunity to see a tiny fraction of the people who fly every day.
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Dillon Pyron - 02 Jul 2009 03:53 GMT [Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>:
>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. >>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is true for >prescription or OTC meds/supplements. I had assumed that "label" meant the 'scrip label. If it's just something handwritten that says "blood pressure" then, no that doesn't work. But if it's a pharmacy label with all the magical words then it should do the trick. Nobody knows what an original container looks like for prescription meds.
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Tobie Gerbrandt - 02 Jul 2009 01:11 GMT You might not have any trouble coming into Canada with your legal drugs, but the US Customs seem to be unusually strict as to what you can take INTO the USA, even if they were purchased in the USA.
I would suggest that you make sure you have prescription meds in their original containers, with a copy of the prescription on it. That way, the US customs will have no problem clearing them for return to the US.
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> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. > We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jack. Jack - 02 Jul 2009 22:17 GMT All of you had good points. I think the below comments are the ones that mainly convinced me to take my bottles. It rings true!.
Jack
>You might not have any trouble coming into Canada with your legal drugs, but >the US Customs seem to be unusually strict as to what you can take INTO the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Jack. Mark (SF) - 03 Jul 2009 08:23 GMT > We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. > We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jack. Since I have an all-in-one printer, I just make a copy of my prescription bottles with info visible and then repackage the pills for travel. I wouldn't give this as legal advice to anyone, but I figure it would answer any questions if needed - and none of our scrips are high-risk ones anyway. (I don't think there's a big street market for statins!)
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RsH - 03 Jul 2009 18:00 GMT On Jul 1, 11:58 am, Jack <jacks3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. > We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us not young [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jack. I take my pills in a 28 compartment 4 week pill holder. and have a written list of the drugs - [name, size, dosage] - written on paper, in the bottom of that holder. With that information anyone can look up the identification of the pill by shape and colour, and I've never had any problem going into the U.S. or other nations from Canada, where we live, or back into Canada from wherever we've been. I take 8 pills per day, from 6 Rx and 81 mg ASA and that works just fine. If you want to add the doctor's name to the list for each Rx go right ahead. If the pills are clearly packaged for use that way and it is obvious you are of an age to be taking them, the last thing anyone worries about is these pills. If you are taking hundreds of them across the border you might have a problem but taking a pill per day or 2 pills per day, in the case of one of my Rx, has never presented a problem.
If any are a narcotic, all bets are off, as that will set off alarms, but as long as they are standard prescriptions for a person your age, do not worry. I grant that a scan of the labels from the pill boxes, or a copy of the recipes from the drug store(s) that show the names of the pills, the date the Rx was filled, and the price paid will not hurt, if you have them along.... but you do not need to take 2 or 3 months worth of Rx A with you if you need to have a week's worth with you. It simply isn't needed.
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Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:39 GMT On 7/3/2009 3:23 AM Mark (SF) while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> >> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Mark > Just don't get any of these labels wet! Pharmacy Rx labels will not run. Those out of an ink jet printer can and do. It's just enough to make you look suspicious.
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