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Jack - 01 Jul 2009 19:58 GMT
We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
anymore have.

Should we be sure to have all the bottles the medicine came in or will
the normal pill boxes work?

Thanks

Jack.
PeterL - 01 Jul 2009 20:23 GMT
> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jack.

No need.  I put my pills in little zip lock plastic bag, each one with
a label.  No one ever checks.  I've been to Europe, Asia and Canada
with them.
Sue Mullen - 01 Jul 2009 21:04 GMT
>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> a label.  No one ever checks.  I've been to Europe, Asia and Canada
> with them.

PeterL, you just lucked out, this is not good advice.

All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is true for
prescription or OTC meds/supplements.

sue
Nonny - 02 Jul 2009 00:08 GMT
>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> sue

Good advice.  Our pharmacy is Walgreens for everything and our HMO
has an online service that lists all current prescriptions.  While
this is not "tested," what we do is prepackage the pills we take
on a daily basis into weekly containers.  I print out the list
from Walgreens web site and also the one from the HMO.  If there
is any question, at least I'll have both online and/or paper
evidence that we have a prescription for whatever is being
questioned.

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Joseph Coulter - 02 Jul 2009 00:16 GMT
>> All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is
>> true for prescription or OTC meds/supplements.
>>
>> sue
>Exactly I always take the paperwork for the meds but admit if they want the vitamins, they can have 'em
Joseph Coulter
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Ermalee McCauley - 02 Jul 2009 04:33 GMT
>>>All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is
>>>true for prescription or OTC meds/supplements.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Joseph Coulter Cruises and Vacations
> www.josephcoulter.com

Hi Joe,
Thanks for your help in accessing the newsgroups.

Ermalee
Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:16 GMT
On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM  Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:

>  
>>    
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> www.josephcoulter.com
>  
If the pills aren't in the original bottles with labels,  I don't think
that the paperwork will help you at a port of entry where there is heavy
drug trafficking. From the customs and security officer's prospective
those pills in the bottles could be X, meth, or oxy.

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Jack Hamilton - 04 Jul 2009 19:00 GMT
>On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM  Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>drug trafficking. From the customs and security officer's prospective
>those pills in the bottles could be X, meth, or oxy.

How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not
oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
ones.

If the inspector can identify pills by sight, they don't need to be in
original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in
the "original" bottles.
Rosalie B. - 04 Jul 2009 21:05 GMT
>>On 7/1/2009 7:16 PM  Joseph Coulter while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
>ones.

I've always wondered that too.  My Tylenol has the name stamped on
them.  And I agree if they want my Calcium pills or the aspirin I can
easily buy more.  The only pills that I really need to have are the BP
ones - one of which has a heart stamped on it.

Actually I put all the pills that I need for the trip in a pill keeper
which holds 2 weeks worth.  Then I have a couple of extra days worth
in day keepers.   I put the bottle labels on the back of the pill
keeper, and I try to keep copies of the prescriptions too.

I also take an non-aspirin pain reliever which is prescription that I
am always careful to take during dinner with a full stomach, so I
don't put them in the pill keeper - I just take the pill from the
original bottle.  In that bottle I put extra pills for all the
prescriptions.  That's the only original bottle I take, and it doesn't
have just the original prescription in it.

>If the inspector can identify pills by sight, they don't need to be in
>original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in
>the "original" bottles.

I do have a funny story about that - I was in a wheelchair going
through Heathrow and I had put my day's medicines in their plastic
holder into my armpit pocket thing under my clothes where I thought it
would be fairly safe from pickpockets.  They did a pat down of me
since I hadn't gotten up out of the wheelchair to walk through the
scanner (and since then I've always walked through having learned my
lesson).  

The pills under my arm rattled and they wanted to see them, but I was
wearing a full length dress (as opposed to a blouse and skirt) and I
was not wearing a bra.  So I said I'd have to pull the dress up to my
neck to get to it.  So they took me into a private room, and I
undressed and showed them what I had, and they had no problem with the
pills not being in original containers.  Of course it was just 4 or 5
pills including aspirin.

I was traveling with my grandson and he got a big kick out of it - he
kept saying "Grandma had a cavity search"
Nonny - 04 Jul 2009 22:52 GMT
We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable.  One of the things
they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the
health records, including prescriptions and a direct link to the
HMO's attended website.  In the event of a problem or emergency,
any CD reader can read the health record, see prescribing
information, test results, appointments, diagnosis and even the
reports by specialists.  By clicking on a link, the ER physician
can also go direct to the HMO's attended website for more
information, including permission to admit, transport etc.

It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription
meds, but it sure helps.

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Jean O'Boyle - 04 Jul 2009 23:54 GMT
> We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable.  One of the things they do
> is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the health records,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription meds, but
> it sure helps.

Sounds like the HMO that we belong to, Nonny...All my medical records are on
a bracelet that I keep in my purse and all of Ed's are on a key chain.  What
amazes me is that they are automatically updated when something is added
from a doctor's visit.

--Jean
Nonny - 05 Jul 2009 06:48 GMT
>> We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable.  One of the
>> things they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> --Jean

Wow, the CD itself is not updated, but we can replace it when we
request.  However, our medical records on the HMO's computer
system are updated each visit and the CD includes the link to the
HMO's staffed website, where the information is available.  The
user merely selects to use the data on the CD or the updated data
from the HMO.  Either way, it's darned good and a wonderful
application of technology to help people.

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JCarnaghie - 05 Jul 2009 22:09 GMT
>>> We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable.  One of the things
>>> they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> use the data on the CD or the updated data from the HMO.  Either way,
> it's darned good and a wonderful application of technology to help people.

Dear Nonny,
     What is the name of your HMO? Please reply
either in the newsgroup or directly.
     Cheers,
         John in LALALand (On the Left Coast)
Jack Hamilton - 05 Jul 2009 02:10 GMT
>We belong to one of the best HMO's imaginable.  One of the things
>they do is provide each member with a mini CD containing all the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>It doesn't replace carrying manual information on prescription
>meds, but it sure helps.

My HMO (Kaiser Permanente) offers a thumb drive with medical records.
I haven't gotten one because I couldn't think of what I might use it
for.  I guess I should get one.
Sue Mullen - 10 Jul 2009 04:22 GMT
> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not
> oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> original bottles, and if s/he can't, it doesn't matter if they're in
> the "original" bottles.

Recently I have seen a description of the pills on the label when I get
a prescription filled. This way I guess they can read the label and look
at the pills to see that they match the description.

sue
Jack Hamilton - 10 Jul 2009 05:12 GMT
>> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not
>> oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>a prescription filled. This way I guess they can read the label and look
>at the pills to see that they match the description.

I've seen "pill" and "capsule", but not descriptions of colors and
patterns.  Perhaps it depends on the pharmacy's computer system.
Generics vary with every manufacturer, and would be hard to keep track
of automatically.
Sue Mullen - 10 Jul 2009 06:06 GMT
>>> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not
>>> oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Generics vary with every manufacturer, and would be hard to keep track
> of automatically.

I just looked and some say caplet, capsule etc and give the color. Some
also say "generic for xxx". I have seen this from our mail order
pharmacy as well as our local supermarket pharmacy, but both are through
our prescription plan and that may be who controlls the info.

sue
Dillon Pyron - 16 Jul 2009 02:52 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>:

>>>> How does having the pills in original bottles prove they're not
>>>> oxycontin?  You could have taken out the old pills and put in new
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>sue

There is a new reg coming out of the FDA that will require a
description of the medication's physical appearance.  All of mine say
things like "five sided light blue scored on one side, 1066 on the
reverse", as well as "generic substitution for Lamictal 200 mg"
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Sue Mullen - 16 Jul 2009 03:02 GMT
> [Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> things like "five sided light blue scored on one side, 1066 on the
> reverse", as well as "generic substitution for Lamictal 200 mg"

Yes, a lot of our prescription labels are that way also.

I keep an old set of prescription bottles in a box for when we travel.
Guess I better make sure all of our "travel" bottles are the new ones. I
doubt they will ever be checked, but better safe then sorry.

sue
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2009 00:31 GMT
>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> sue

I can see the logic of this advice, but I'm wondering if anyone
has ever actually been challenged.

My wife and I have traveled all over Europe and South America
as well as Canada and Mexico and never been challenged about
the contents of our medical kits.  We've always had unlabeled
bottles of vitamins and supplements with us.

Coming back to the U.S. we've seen drug sniffing dogs, but I
think they're trained to sniff for specific illegal drugs (we
don't use those!)  The dogs have never had a problem with our
bags.

Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for
prescription documentation purely hypothetical?

    Alan
Rosalie B. - 02 Jul 2009 02:12 GMT
>>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for
>prescription documentation purely hypothetical?

I've never been challenged and we usually have the medicines in a
weekly dispensing box.  I take copies of the prescriptions with me,
but no one has ever asked.

However - I also take a signed notarized statement from both of my
grandchild's parents that I have their permission to be taking their
child out of the country, and only once has anyone even asked about it
and that was when we were changing planes in Heathrow.

My mother was given a hard time when going through Checkpoint Charley
with my daughter in the 70s, but that was then.
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2009 04:05 GMT
...
> However - I also take a signed notarized statement from both of my
> grandchild's parents that I have their permission to be taking their
> child out of the country, and only once has anyone even asked about it
> and that was when we were changing planes in Heathrow.
...

That reminds me of a time many years ago when my wife and I
crossed from the U.S. into Canada in an RV.

A bored Canadian border guard recited a list of questions in an
off-hand manner.  "Are you carrying any guns, explosives, drugs,
or large sums of money?"

I said, "No" to each.

Then the boredom disappeared and he looked at me very severely
and asked me in a very suspicious tone, "Are you bringing any
children into Canada?"

It gave me a new perspective on where the real dangers in life
and international travel reside ;)

    Alan
Kurt Ullman - 02 Jul 2009 14:33 GMT
> Then the boredom disappeared and he looked at me very severely
> and asked me in a very suspicious tone, "Are you bringing any
> children into Canada?"
>
> It gave me a new perspective on where the real dangers in life
> and international travel reside ;)

     Pure Bureaucracy CYA.  You bring in dope and get caught nobody
cares all that much in real life how you got through. A kid comes in who
has been taken out of the country by non-custodial parent or (even
worse) pedophile and the cops (and press) will back track their every
movement and the sh** storm will arise in full fury if you were the one
that let them through.  A perspective on the real dangers in the life of
an immigration worker.

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Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:32 GMT
On 7/1/2009 9:12 PM  Rosalie B. while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:

>  
>>    
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
>  
On my return from Jamaica to Newark, my carry on was searched. I had all
my Rx in their original bottles.  But I had some OTC stuff in a daily
pill caddy.  I was asked to accompany a guard into an office where I was
questioned by a Fed.  A scraping was taken from each of my OTC pills.  
The scrapings were tested. Only after the results came back negative was
I released. I was given an official apology with the explanation that
they were acting only to stem the tide of drugs entering the US
illegally. I thought about it as I walked towards ground
transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a
beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in
them), and a souvenir Bob Marley T-shirt without any Marijuana
illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile.  But saying this
does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched.

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Lee - 05 Jul 2009 17:03 GMT
>transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a
>beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in
>them), and a souvenir Bob Marley T-shirt without any Marijuana
>illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile.  But saying this
>does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched.

The government uses profiles?!?!  I am, simply stunned.

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Marsha - 05 Jul 2009 19:12 GMT
>> transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a
>> beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The government uses profiles?!?!  I am, simply stunned.

Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole.  They pulled her aside
in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to stand
on one foot while leaning against a post, without letting her sit down
or waiting for her cane to go through x-ray.  She doesn't even resemble
Osama or McVeigh.

Marsha
Jack Hamilton - 05 Jul 2009 22:26 GMT
>>> transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had a
>>> beard, I wore distressed jeans (faded jeans with strategic rips in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>or waiting for her cane to go through x-ray.  She doesn't even resemble
>Osama or McVeigh.

The next terrorists probably *won't* resemble Osama or McVeigh.
They'll be people who can get through security because they look
innocent.

But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly.
Briggsie - 05 Jul 2009 23:48 GMT
Yes, the next terrorists are going to be ancient grannies who have gone
through terrorist school and remember the information. They will load bombs
into their SAS shoes. Uh huh....

>>>> transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I had
>>>> a
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly.
Brian K - 07 Jul 2009 00:49 GMT
On 7/5/2009 6:48 PM  Briggsie while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> Yes, the next terrorists are going to be ancient grannies who have
> gone through terrorist school and remember the information. They will
> load bombs into their SAS shoes. Uh huh....

It could happen. Suicide  al qaeda grannies with hookahs wearing black
burkhas.

Brian

>>>>> transportation.  I was returning from Jamaica, my hair was long, I
>>>>> had a
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
>> But that's no excuse for treating anyone badly.
Kurt Ullman - 05 Jul 2009 22:37 GMT
> Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole.  They pulled her aside
> in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to stand
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Marsha

 She was in the CYA category. Those chosen specifically to keep the
people who habitually yell "Profiling" from doing so.

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Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 00:46 GMT
>> Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole.  They pulled
>> her aside
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the
> people who habitually yell "Profiling" from doing so.

Yes, yes yes.  It's no different than when the sales clerk at
Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of
screws.  I want to tell them that a gray haired guy like me isn't
going to use a stolen CC for something like that, but I understand
that they're just doing what they're told.  Mrs. Nonny is always
searched on her scooter at the airport, and we understand why.

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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 01:58 GMT
> Yes, yes yes.  It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's
> asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws.  I
> want to tell them that a gray haired guy like me isn't going to use a
> stolen CC for something like that, but I understand that they're just
> doing what they're told.  Mrs. Nonny is always searched on her scooter
> at the airport, and we understand why.

I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC, if the charge
has already been approved.  I refused to show ID at Circuit City once
and they backed down, saying it was only for my protection.  As a
consumer, it's my responsibility to keep track of my CC, not the store.

Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 02:07 GMT
>I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC

Hi Marsha,

It is certainly not illegal in most, if not all, states.

Best regards,
Ray
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Bill - 06 Jul 2009 02:21 GMT
>> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's
>> asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Marsha

Was your card signed? If it isn't, I think they are allowed to
ask for id.

Bill
Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 02:58 GMT
>>> Yes, yes yes. It's no different than when the sales clerk at Lowe's
>>> asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag of screws. I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Bill

My credit card was signed.  The back of every CC I've seen says invalid
if not signed.  That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID.
But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card
has been run through their machine and approved.

Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 03:31 GMT
>But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card
>has been run through their machine and approved.

Hi Marsha,

Private companies have the right to request the ID.  You have the
right to refuse the request.  At that point it is up to the clerk if
they wish to accept your card.  It is ashame that there is so much
credit card fraud but I certainly understand merchants that wish to
protect themselves.

Best regards,
Ray
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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 03:52 GMT
>> But since mine was signed, they have no right, especially if the card
>> has been run through their machine and approved.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> http://www.lighthousetravel.com
> --

Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is
not to ask for ID.  I can't speak for other cards.

Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 04:02 GMT
>Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is
>not to ask for ID.  I can't speak for other cards.

Hi Marsha,

As I said earlier there is no law in most, if not all states
forbidding the merchant from asking for the ID.  Different bank card
issuers can make their own "policies".

Best regards,
Ray
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Marsha - 06 Jul 2009 04:06 GMT
>> Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is
>> not to ask for ID.  I can't speak for other cards.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Best regards,
> Ray

Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the
CC is signed.  There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for
ID, but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant
to refuse the sale.

Marsha
Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 04:18 GMT
>Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the
>CC is signed.  There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for
>ID, but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant
>to refuse the sale.

Hi Marsha,

You made me curious and that always leads to learning something. <:+)
I just checked the CA law.  It specifically states that:
(d) This section does not prohibit any person, firm, partnership,
association, or corporation from requiring the cardholder, as a
condition to accepting the credit card as payment in full or in part
for goods or services, to provide reasonable forms of positive
identification, which may include a driver's license or a California
state identification card, or where one of these is not available,
another form of photo identification, provided that none of the
information contained thereon is written or recorded on the credit
card transaction form or otherwise. If the cardholder pays for the
transaction with a credit card number and does not make the credit
card available upon request to verify the number, the cardholder's
driver's license number or identification card number may be recorded
on the credit card transaction form or otherwise.

Best regards,
Ray
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Bill - 08 Jul 2009 04:54 GMT
> Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the
> CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for ID,
> but if you refuse to provide it, that cannot be used by the merchant to
> refuse the sale.
>
> Marsha

The same agreement that says they're not allowed to have minimum
purchase amounts when using their card, and which they routinely
ignore complaints about?

Bill
Marsha - 09 Jul 2009 02:25 GMT
>> Per the merchant/CC agreement, the merchant is not to ask for ID if the
>> CC is signed. There is no law, per se, against a merchant asking for ID,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Bill

The 3 or 4 places that I have challenged about their minimum purchase
requirement have backed down.

Marsha
Jack Hamilton - 06 Jul 2009 04:21 GMT
>>Visa/Mastercard policy is that if the card is signed, the merchant is
>>not to ask for ID.  I can't speak for other cards.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>forbidding the merchant from asking for the ID.  Different bank card
>issuers can make their own "policies".

http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs15-mt.htm#2a says that in California
a merchant can ask to see an ID, but can't record the information on
it.

A bit further down, it quotes parts of the merchant agreements with
MasterCard and Visa, which say that ID cannot be required as a
condition for paying by credit card.
Lee - 06 Jul 2009 10:27 GMT
>My credit card was signed.  The back of every CC I've seen says invalid
>if not signed.  That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID.

I've told this here before -- in the signature spot on the back of his
credit card, a friend of mine wrote "Ask for ID"

No one ever did.

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Briggsie - 06 Jul 2009 14:16 GMT
I wrote that on one of my cards, and I always get asked for ID with only
that card.

>>My credit card was signed.  The back of every CC I've seen says invalid
>>if not signed.  That, to me, would give a company pause to ask for ID.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> No one ever did.
Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 03:57 GMT
>> Yes, yes yes.  It's no different than when the sales clerk at
>> Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag
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>
> Marsha

With me, it's no big deal.  I have my wallet in hand, since I got
the card out, and the ID is in a holder making it visible when I
open the wallet.  If it lets them actually get 'curious' with the
creeps, that's OK with me to help them get out of a profiling
complaint.

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Rosalie B. - 06 Jul 2009 13:43 GMT
>>> Yes, yes yes.  It's no different than when the sales clerk at
>>> Lowe's asks me for an ID when I use the CC to charge a $3 bag
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> Marsha

What I won't do is give them my phone number and/or email address like
they ask for at Radio Shack.  It has been a long time since I was
asked for an ID for a credit card, but at least once, someone has
taken our number off a transaction and tried to use it to charge
additional stuff.

>With me, it's no big deal.  I have my wallet in hand, since I got
>the card out, and the ID is in a holder making it visible when I
>open the wallet.  If it lets them actually get 'curious' with the
>creeps, that's OK with me to help them get out of a profiling
>complaint.
RayC - 06 Jul 2009 20:31 GMT
> I believe it's illegal to ask for ID when you use a CC, if the charge
> has already been approved.  I refused to show ID at Circuit City once
> and they backed down, saying it was only for my protection.  As a
> consumer, it's my responsibility to keep track of my CC, not the store.
>
> Marsha

Not illegal ... just stupid credit card company rules. "Although Visa
rules do not preclude merchants from asking for cardholder ID, merchants
cannot make an ID a condition of acceptance. Therefore, merchants cannot
refuse to complete a purchase transaction because a cardholder refuses
to provide ID."

If a store takes your credit card, they are accepting the problems
associated with chargebacks.  Checking ID at the time of purchase as a
policy is one way that the store can tell the card companies that they
are doing their best to limit fraud.

Several years ago I got hit with a $6000+ fraudulent purchase.  Because
I could not verify the identity of the purchaser, I had to pay the full
purchase amount back ... even though the purchaser was long gone with
the goods.

All the credit card merchant rules are stacked in favor of the card
company first, the card holder second and the merchant last.

I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID.  In fact,
I thank business for asking me for a picture ID.

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Ray Goldenberg - 06 Jul 2009 20:33 GMT
>I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID.  In fact,
>I thank business for asking me for a picture ID.

Hi Ray,

Amen to that.  Most folks have no idea the amount of credit card fraud
that is perpetuated on honest merchants.

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Kurt Ullman - 06 Jul 2009 21:05 GMT
> I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID.  In fact,
> I thank business for asking me for a picture ID.

Then you would spend most of your time suspicious in Indiana. I can't
remember the last time I got asked for an ID and there is only one gas
station that I know that even asks for zip code.

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Nonny - 06 Jul 2009 21:53 GMT
>> I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID.
>> In fact,
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> one gas
> station that I know that even asks for zip code.

Perhaps you look more honest and dignified than I do, Kurt. <grin>

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Kurt Ullman - 06 Jul 2009 23:25 GMT
> >> I would be suspicious of any business that DIDN'T ask for ID.
> >> In fact,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Perhaps you look more honest and dignified than I do, Kurt. <grin>

 I hope not for your sake. (grin).

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Brian K - 07 Jul 2009 00:53 GMT
On 7/5/2009 7:46 PM  Nonny while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:

>>> Yeah, like my elderly mother, God rest her sole.  They pulled her aside
>>> in the airport for a thorough wanding and search, expecting her to
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> doing what they're told.  Mrs. Nonny is always searched on her scooter
> at the airport, and we understand why.

I think I saw Mrs. Nonny in her pimped out scooter with the
Harley-Davidson Soft Tail Custom look and a Sportster engine.  She went
from zero to 95 in 30 seconds flat.  Mrs. Nonny is the very epitome of
what they mean when they sing "Get your kicks on Route 66!"  Za-Zoom,
there she goes doing a wheelie!

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Dillon Pyron - 10 Jul 2009 03:49 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Brian K <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net>:

>On 7/1/2009 9:12 PM  Rosalie B. while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>illustrations on it. Guess I fit some sort of profile.  But saying this
>does not imply that none of you might be randomly searched.

But they didn't ask you about the hand rolled cigarettes?

I once watched a guy get hassled over an extra bottle of tequilla, but
the agent totally missed the ten Cuban cigars in the guy's sports
coat.
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Dillon Pyron - 02 Jul 2009 03:58 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com>:

>>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>Has anyone experienced a challenge, or is the requirement for
>prescription documentation purely hypothetical?

Once, long ago, in a much forgotten land and time when I looked like a
hippie (a hippie with a six figure income, but still).  I got the
"step over here" treatment and, of course, had a bottle of Vicodin in
my carry on.  The guy looked at it and started to pour them into his
hand when I told him to stop and put on a glove.  He didn't fiddle
with any of the other prescription meds, so I guess I could have put
crack cocaine in one of them.  This was on a flight from Cozumel to
Dallas.  As we all know, Cozumel was a major trafficing source in the
mid 80s.

I was also asked if I had any prescription medications when I arrived
in Sydney.  I said yes and he asked if they all had a label indicating
what they were and who prescribed them.  I said yes and he said thank
you, enjoy your holiday.

>     Alan
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Neal Eckhardt - 02 Jul 2009 15:06 GMT
>I can see the logic of this advice, but I'm wondering if anyone
>has ever actually been challenged.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>     Alan

A coworker has flown to Florida several times in the last two years.
He once commented that he never put his carry-on "fluids" in the quart
sized bags. We mentioned that doing so was a requirement (and proved
it to him) and he said that he never heard of that, and he never saw
anybody else doing that.

He has flown at least two or three times since then, and still swears
that nobody actually shows their carry-on toiletries when going
through the security checkpoint.

Strange!

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Bert Hyman - 02 Jul 2009 15:15 GMT
In news:2gfp459tl23u0ssiak70jis8f5aarajrbh@4ax.com Neal Eckhardt
<neckhardt@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:

> He has flown at least two or three times since then, and still swears
> that nobody actually shows their carry-on toiletries when going
> through the security checkpoint.

He's simply not paying attention.

Even if he was, he's only had an opportunity to see a tiny fraction of
the people who fly every day.

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Dillon Pyron - 02 Jul 2009 03:53 GMT
[Default] Thus spake Sue Mullen <kjmullen@comcast.net>:

>>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
>>> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>All medicine should be kept in original containers and this is true for
>prescription or OTC meds/supplements.

I had assumed that "label" meant the 'scrip label.  If it's just
something handwritten that says "blood pressure" then, no that doesn't
work.  But if it's a pharmacy label with all the magical words then it
should do the trick.  Nobody knows what an original container looks
like for prescription meds.

>sue
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Tobie Gerbrandt - 02 Jul 2009 01:11 GMT
You might not have any trouble coming into Canada with your legal drugs, but
the US Customs seem to be unusually strict as to what you can take INTO the
USA, even if they were purchased in the USA.

I would suggest that you make sure you have prescription meds in their
original containers, with a copy of the prescription on it.  That way, the
US customs will have no problem clearing them for return to the US.

Tobie>>>>on an Island in the Pacific

> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jack.
Jack - 02 Jul 2009 22:17 GMT
All of you had good points.  I think the below comments are the ones
that mainly convinced me to take my bottles.  It rings true!.

Jack

>You might not have any trouble coming into Canada with your legal drugs, but
>the US Customs seem to be unusually strict as to what you can take INTO the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> Jack.
Mark (SF) - 03 Jul 2009 08:23 GMT
> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jack.

Since I have an all-in-one printer, I just make a copy of my
prescription bottles with info visible and then repackage the pills
for travel.
I wouldn't give this as legal advice to anyone, but I figure it would
answer any questions if needed - and none of our scrips are high-risk
ones anyway.
(I don't think there's a big street market for statins!)

Mark
RsH - 03 Jul 2009 18:00 GMT
On Jul 1, 11:58 am, Jack <jacks3...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
> We'll have the usual bunch of medicine that those of us  not young
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jack.

I take my pills in a 28 compartment 4 week pill holder. and have a
written list of the drugs - [name, size, dosage] - written on paper,
in the bottom of that holder. With that information anyone can look up
the identification of the pill by shape and colour, and I've never had
any problem going into the U.S. or other nations from Canada, where we
live, or back into Canada from wherever we've been. I take 8 pills per
day, from 6 Rx and 81 mg ASA and that works just fine. If you want to
add the doctor's name to the list for each Rx go right ahead. If the
pills are clearly packaged for use that way and it is obvious you are
of an age to be taking them, the last thing anyone worries about is
these pills. If you are taking hundreds of them across the border you
might have a problem but taking a pill per day or 2 pills per day, in
the case of one of my Rx, has never presented a problem.

If any are a narcotic, all bets are off, as that will set off alarms,
but as long as they are standard prescriptions for a person your age,
do not worry. I grant that a scan of the labels from the pill boxes,
or a copy of the recipes from the drug store(s) that show the names of
the pills, the date the Rx was filled, and the price paid will not
hurt, if you have them along.... but you do not need to take 2 or 3
months worth of Rx A with you if you need to have a week's worth with
you. It simply isn't needed.

FWIW
RsH
Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:39 GMT
On 7/3/2009 3:23 AM  Mark (SF) while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>  
>> We're going on a road trip to Canada next week.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Mark
>  
Just don't get any of these labels wet! Pharmacy Rx labels will not run.
Those out of an ink jet printer can and do. It's just enough to make you
look suspicious.

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