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Surfer E2468 - 01 Jul 2009 22:39 GMT
To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
all my canadian friend you also have a good holiday.

         

         cruise lover(~~~~~)

     

                                                                               


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Jean O'Boyle - 01 Jul 2009 23:41 GMT
> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
> all my canadian friend you also have a good holiday.

Thanks, Annie! Happy Independence Day to you and to all on rtc who celebrate
it! Celebrate safely!

--Jean
Brian K - 04 Jul 2009 07:44 GMT
On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
> all my canadian friend you also have a good holiday.
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> To all my true blooded americans,
For that, I am sure that the First Americans  (Native Americans or
Indians) say thanks. But, what about the rest of us?  We are a nation if
immigrants. Only the First Americans are the true blooded ones. ( I
know, picky, picky).  But I think that we all need some education in
this area. While in British Columbia, I often saw references to "Our
First American Brothers..."

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Dean Worrell - 04 Jul 2009 16:26 GMT
> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
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> this area. While in British Columbia, I often saw references to "Our
> First American Brothers..."

Brian,

I must humbly take issue.  I am a native American, though I doubt I have
a bit of aboriginal-American blood in me.  I do have some German,
English, Canadian, Swedish, and who-knows-what ancestors.  I am an American.

Be that as it may, I hope everyone has a pleasant Independence Day Holiday.

Dean <--- Doubt we'll get that family cookout done seeing as it is again
raining in central Illinois (10 inches over normal rainfall for the year).
Nonny - 04 Jul 2009 18:42 GMT
>> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99",
>> exclaimed:
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> is again raining in central Illinois (10 inches over normal
> rainfall for the year).

Brian's just been listening to too many news reports from the
Obama "Love and Apology" tour.  It's fashionable right now.
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and ready to chew off
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Tom K - 04 Jul 2009 20:04 GMT
> Brian's just been listening to too many news reports from the Obama "Love
> and Apology" tour.  It's fashionable right now.

Hey Nonny,

I missed that tour.  After the Dubya "Let's send all our jobs to Asia, let's
let the stock market crash, and then let's spend a trillion and bail out the
banks and insurance companies" tour... I had no money left to go on the
Obama tour...
Kurt Ullman - 04 Jul 2009 21:52 GMT
> > Brian's just been listening to too many news reports from the Obama "Love
> > and Apology" tour.  It's fashionable right now.
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> banks and insurance companies" tour... I had no money left to go on the
> Obama tour...

 The jobs have been going to Asia for generations. You are surely old
enuff to remember that Japan was going to the Ulitmate Downfall of
American Business. The government did not "let" stock market crash any
more than it "let" it go up before.

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Tom K - 04 Jul 2009 22:30 GMT
>  The jobs have been going to Asia for generations. You are surely old
> enuff to remember that Japan was going to the Ulitmate Downfall of
> American Business. The government did not "let" stock market crash any
> more than it "let" it go up before.

Yep.... since Reagan.  I believe they even had a term for it.  Reaganomics.
Let the Capitalists run unchecked.
Kurt Ullman - 04 Jul 2009 22:48 GMT
> >  The jobs have been going to Asia for generations. You are surely old
> > enuff to remember that Japan was going to the Ulitmate Downfall of
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> Yep.... since Reagan.  I believe they even had a term for it.  Reaganomics.
> Let the Capitalists run unchecked.

Go much further back, MUCH further back.

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Brian K - 05 Jul 2009 08:57 GMT
On 7/4/2009 5:48 PM  Kurt Ullman while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:

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Do you mean like the Carpet Baggers after the conclusion of the Civil
War.  Do you ever stop to wonder why it's called the Civil War?  Fellow
citizens of the US killing each other is hardly civil. The North's and
The South's  re[representative sitting down at a bar, working their
differences out over a few pints. That's what I'd call civil. It would
be even more civil if someone from the South brought along some Pecan
Pie, and someone from the North Apple Pie made from apples of upstate
New York. That would be very civil indeed.

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MarkS - 05 Jul 2009 15:50 GMT
> On 7/4/2009 5:48 PM  Kurt Ullman while holding "Agent 99",
> exclaimed:
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> from the North Apple Pie made from apples of upstate New York.
> That would be very civil indeed.

You need to climb down off that cross.  Theres a lot of better
ways to call attention to yourself.

Yr pal,

Mark

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Nonnymus - 05 Jul 2009 17:34 GMT
That's what I'd call civil. It would
> be even more civil if someone from the South brought along some
> Pecan Pie, and someone from the North Apple Pie made from apples
> of upstate New York. That would be very civil indeed.

mmmmm. . . pecan pie.  Ever had sugar pie?
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Lee - 05 Jul 2009 16:55 GMT
>I missed that tour.  After the Dubya "Let's send all our jobs to Asia, let's
>let the stock market crash, and then let's spend a trillion and bail out the
>banks and insurance companies" tour... I had no money left to go on the
>Obama tour...

YOu left out bail out the uncompetitive us auto companies, and their
employees and retire-ees.

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Brian K - 05 Jul 2009 08:50 GMT
On 7/4/2009 1:42 PM  Nonny while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:

>>> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>>> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
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> Brian's just been listening to too many news reports from the Obama
> "Love and Apology" tour.  It's fashionable right now.
Actually, I have been a supporter of the Native American rights movement
since 1969.  My response was to take issue with the term "true blooded
Americans". The term may not have been intended as such, but it had a
tinge of elitism, and a touch of exclusion.  We are all citizens of the
US.  Of course there is that group in one of the New England states that
claim if you can't trace your ancestry back to the Mayflower...then you
aren't a "true blooded American".  That's where I was coming from with
my statement.  If you think about it, isn't Native American another way
of saying First American. The meaning of both words implies that they
were here before all the other immigrants came.   Since they were here
first, if any group has a clam on the term true blooded
American...wouldn't it be the First Americans or Native Americans?

The televising of Macy's Fireworks on the Hudson River was the best,
I've seen in a while.  On year they superimposed these celebrity
floating heads over the fireworks as they read sections of the
Declaration of Independence and the preamble to The Bill of Rights. It
was very distracting as you couldn't see the fireworks display.  I am
really happy that they didn't do that this year.

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Surfer E2468 - 04 Jul 2009 23:12 GMT
I am part pennsylvania dutch,and part german,but I AM FIRST AND ALWAYS
AMERICAN

         

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Jean O'Boyle - 04 Jul 2009 17:13 GMT
> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
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> While in British Columbia, I often saw references to "Our First American
> Brothers..."

Brian, you are being picky and missing the entire issue here.
It's Independence Day and Annie by saying, "true blooded Americans." meant
all those who are loyal to and love their country.
Let's not make it complicated!  Happy Fourth of July, Everyone!

--Jean<---in HOT Texas with 103 degrees predicted again today.
kerry ambler - 04 Jul 2009 17:29 GMT
isn't the idea of independance day,  independance from england?  the people
who came from europe many many moons ago and formed the original colonies
became the united states of america.  the native americans were later
assimilated into that group.  if no one ever came from europe there would
have been no reason for independance.

>> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
>>> To all my true blooded americans,have a safe and happy holiday, and to
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>
> --Jean<---in HOT Texas with 103 degrees predicted again today.
Brian K - 05 Jul 2009 09:17 GMT
On 7/4/2009 12:13 PM  Jean O'Boyle while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
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>> On 7/1/2009 5:39 PM  Surfer E2468 while holding "Agent 99", exclaimed:
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Jean you'll probably say that I'm being picky. For me there just are two
many negative associations with the term "full blooded American", i.e.
the John Birchers, KKK, American Natzis...etc.  Had Annie said "Red
Blooded American", that would be more inclusive.  If you pick any of us
we bleed red. I wouldn't have any problem with "Red Blooded American".

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