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Ferry from Bergen to Shetland?

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Dan Stephenson - 27 Jul 2008 03:41 GMT
I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?
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Gerald Oliver Swift - 27 Jul 2008 05:55 GMT
> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?

Up until a couple of years ago Smyril Line's "Norröna" used to operate
between Bergen and Lerwick in the summer months but it now calls in to
Scrabster  (on the Scottish mainland) instead. See
http://www.smyril-line.com/

Currently there is no direct ferry service between Bergen and the Shetlands.
You would have to sail from Bergen to Newcastle with DFDS, travel overland
up to Aberdeen, then sail from Aberdeen to Lerwick with NorthLink Ferries.

Regards

Gerry
Dan Stephenson - 27 Jul 2008 15:01 GMT
>> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
>> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?
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> Scrabster  (on the Scottish mainland) instead. See
> http://www.smyril-line.com/

Thanks, as a recall, Scrabster is right across from Orkney, and
there're surely a ferry then to Shetlands.

> Currently there is no direct ferry service between Bergen and the
> Shetlands. You would have to sail from Bergen to Newcastle with DFDS,
> travel overland up to Aberdeen, then sail from Aberdeen to Lerwick with
> NorthLink Ferries.

When I look at a map you'd think that would have been an obvious route,
but maybe there are just too few tourists from Norway coming to visit.  
When I visited Scotland a few years back, I didn't make it to the
Shetlands.  And if I were to dare a left-side-drive car in Britain, I
might try it on a distant islands' roads.

> Regards
>
> Gerry

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Gerald Oliver Swift - 27 Jul 2008 22:05 GMT
>>> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
>>> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?
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> Thanks, as a recall, Scrabster is right across from Orkney, and there're
> surely a ferry then to Shetlands.

Yes, there is a NorthLink ferry from Scrabster to Stromness (Orkneys), then
a bus up to Kirkwall from where you could catch another Northlink ferry to
Lerwick.

>> Currently there is no direct ferry service between Bergen and the
>> Shetlands. You would have to sail from Bergen to Newcastle with DFDS,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> When I look at a map you'd think that would have been an obvious route,
> but maybe there are just too few tourists from Norway coming to visit.

I guess so.

> When I visited Scotland a few years back, I didn't make it to the
> Shetlands.  And if I were to dare a left-side-drive car in Britain, I
> might try it on a distant islands' roads.

You'd be fine driving on the Shetlands - probably more sheep there than
cars!

Gerry
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) - 27 Jul 2008 22:12 GMT
> >>> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
> >>> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?
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> Yes, there is a NorthLink ferry from Scrabster to Stromness (Orkneys), then
> a bus up to Kirkwall

Up?! Across, thanks!

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Runge12 - 27 Jul 2008 23:13 GMT
ha ha very funny, just to attract martin, nothing else

>> > On 2008-07-26 23:55:10 -0500, "Gerald Oliver Swift"
>> > <goswift@hotmail.com>
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>
> Up?! Across, thanks!
Dan Stephenson - 28 Jul 2008 05:28 GMT
>>>> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
>>>> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> then a bus up to Kirkwall from where you could catch another Northlink
> ferry to Lerwick.

So the ferry from Kirkwall to Lerwick is a passenger-only ferry, or a
car-ferry?

you know, Orkney was so awesome I might spend a little more time, there, too!
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george - 28 Jul 2008 06:28 GMT
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> you know, Orkney was so awesome I might spend a little more time, there, too!
> --

In the Orkneys be sure to visit the Tomb of the Eagles if for nothing
more than to hold the beautiful hand crafted Stone Age tool that will
perfectly fit your right hand.  What an excellent piece of
workmanship, the finest tool imaginable, although looking at it, it
looks like nothing special.  It's too bad that museums don't let you
touch their items, I'm sure that there's a lot more to many items than
just their visual appearance.

On the Shetlands, on many roads you won't have to worry about driving
on the "right" side, there is no side only being one narrow lane with
passing places, especially on the more northern islands.

Consider taking the Noronna on to the Faroe Islands, my favorite place
in "Europe", with its lovely treeless green hills and the world's
tallest sea cliffs (over 2000 vertical feet).  From there, you could
also continue on to Iceland and do a trip around the ring road before
returning, but I don't know if your Porsche's paint job would like
some of the roads.

If you would like information about what to see and do around
Stuttgart, just do a reply to author.  As I've now lived there for
over 4 years and immensely enjoy it, I would be happy to give you
advice.

George
Dan Stephenson - 29 Jul 2008 18:22 GMT
> -----snipped------
>> you know, Orkney was so awesome I might spend a little more time, there,
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> touch their items, I'm sure that there's a lot more to many items than
> just their visual appearance.

I spent several days there on Mainland and even took a side trip to the
Knap of Howar on Papay Westray.  And visited the Tomb of the Eagles,
and the pounding rock.  The surrounding area looks like a great place
for a walk.

But my more favorite place was probably the Stenness stones.  Tres
cool.  That Gurness Bourch on the far side of Mainland was really
awesome too I would like to have see it in its heyday.

> On the Shetlands, on many roads you won't have to worry about driving
> on the "right" side, there is no side only being one narrow lane with
> passing places, especially on the more northern islands.

figured as much, that's good to confirm

Other than Mousa Brouch, what other megalithic things are on the
Shetlands?  Orkney is chock-a-block with megalithics I figured there
would be more than the one broch.

> Consider taking the Noronna on to the Faroe Islands, my favorite place
> in "Europe", with its lovely treeless green hills and the world's
> tallest sea cliffs (over 2000 vertical feet).  From there, you could
> also continue on to Iceland and do a trip around the ring road before
> returning, but I don't know if your Porsche's paint job would like
> some of the roads.

uhh, right :-)  It may be an all-whell drive model but that doesn't
mean I'm taking it off road!

> If you would like information about what to see and do around
> Stuttgart, just do a reply to author.  As I've now lived there for
> over 4 years and immensely enjoy it, I would be happy to give you
> advice.

Will do

I only visited once before, solely to visit the Porsche museum.  This
was in Fall 2002.

There was some kind of festival going on at the time with cabbage and
some kind of super-greasy pasta being served.  Do you know what I'm
talking about?

> George

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george - 29 Jul 2008 20:07 GMT
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> > On the Shetlands, on many roads you won't have to worry about driving
> > on the "right" side, there is no side only being one narrow lane with
> > passing places, especially on the more northern islands.
>
> figured as much, that's good to confirm

One of my favorite memories is waiting for a car to come at a passing
place on the 89081 on Yell.  My wife rolled down the window to take
some pictures of a group of nearby Shetland ponies who then came up to
the car window.  The other car arrived and we left, and for the next
quarter mile we could hear cursing in the distance as the local driver
was blocked by the ponies on the road.

> Other than Mousa Brouch, what other megalithic things are on the
> Shetlands?  Orkney is chock-a-block with megalithics I figured there
> would be more than the one broch.

Mousa Broch is great and their is a large seal colony in an inlet on
the other side of the island that is fascinating to watch.  Why would
some work their way up a steep hill to be perhaps a hundred feet above
the water to lay in the grass in the sun and look like inch worms
while doing it?  At Lerwick there is also a Broch on the lake at the
south side of town.  A family of otters lived on the small island
offshore.  If you want to try to see them and they're still there,
pretend that you are leaving and sneak back as they will only come out
after they think you have left.  No one in town seemed to know about
them.  Down just past the airport at the far south of the island are
ruins that are very old and rebuilt several times with the ruins of a
viking settlement built on top of  them, I believe its called
Jarlshof.  Make sure to take a boat trip from Lerwick to the bird
cliffs on the Isle of Noss.  They're quite impressive even if all the
millions of birds aren't in residence and be sure to wear a hat!

If you are familiar with the palace in Kirkwall, the same two brothers
built palaces also in Scalloway and also on one of the northern
islands, either Yell or Unst.  It was quite intersting in getting the
key for visiting the northern palace from a house nearby, the old
gentleman was salting fish.  He invited me to see the interior of his
house which he had just remodeled as he was quite proud of it.  I was
amazed to see a large number of groups of 3-4 fish hanging by their
tails all over the nicely remodeled and painted very white
ceiling!!!!  I can imagine what the ceiling would look like after
burning fires and letting the smoke from it smoke the fish!!!!!

It's been quite a while since I visited the Orkneys and Shetlands, but
both places' tourist offices had excellent publications on things to
see and do and also all kinds of accomodations including possible
stays in a lighthouse which they sent me for free.  We rented the
entire ground floor of a very large house (3 bedrooms, kitchen, dining
room, living room, bathroom) in Lerwick for US$115/week and had a
washer and dryer which we put to good use.
> > Consider taking the Noronna on to the Faroe Islands, my favorite place
> > in "Europe", with its lovely treeless green hills and the world's
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> uhh, right :-)  It may be an all-whell drive model but that doesn't
> mean I'm taking it off road!

Well, I wasn't talking about off road as part of the way wasn't paved
on the ring road, and others may be gravel.  I had a great day with
the driver of a super-jeep taking me from Lake Myvatn through the new
lava flows to Dettifoss Waterfall.  We were the first vehicle of the
year and the "road?? path??" had been washed or blown away in many
places and also partially buried by snow in places.  A fun day helping
the driver navigate!

> > If you would like information about what to see and do around
> > Stuttgart, just do a reply to author.  As I've now lived there for
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I only visited once before, solely to visit the Porsche museum.  This
> was in Fall 2002.
The new Porsche Museum is scheduled to open in December of this year,
but I'm not holding my breath as it has been postponed many times
already.  I believe that the only reason that the new excellent
Mercedes Benz Museum finally opened was pressure to complete it for
the 2006 World's Cup to get a lot of free publicity and stage events
there.

> There was some kind of festival going on at the time with cabbage and
> some kind of super-greasy pasta being served.  Do you know what I'm
> talking about?

This sounds like the Leinfelden-Echterdingen Cabbage Festival which
takes place on the south side of Stuttgart.  They grow a lot of
Spitzenkohl (pointed cabbages that look like they're wearing a dunce
cap).  We've never been, I have a hard time convincing my German wife
to go.  I don't know what the super-greasy pasta would be, probably
some type of noodles made using potatoes, possibly Schupfnudeln or
Bubenspitzle.

George
Gerald Oliver Swift - 28 Jul 2008 06:42 GMT
>>>> Up until a couple of years ago Smyril Line's "Norröna" used to operate
>>>> between Bergen and Lerwick in the summer months but it now calls in to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> So the ferry from Kirkwall to Lerwick is a passenger-only ferry, or a
> car-ferry?

Both Orkney ferries are car ferries. Prices for taking a vehicle on them can
be found here:- http://www.northlinkferries.co.uk/fares.html

Gerry
Mike..... - 28 Jul 2008 09:54 GMT
Following up to Dan Stephenson

> So the ferry from Kirkwall to Lerwick is a passenger-only ferry, or a
> car-ferry?

biggish car ferry, very pleasant

> you know, Orkney was so awesome I might spend a little more time, there, too!

I'm a Shetland fan, was the ancient stuff you liked?
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Dan Stephenson - 29 Jul 2008 18:29 GMT
>> you know, Orkney was so awesome I might spend a little more time, there, too!
>
> I'm a Shetland fan, was the ancient stuff you liked?

Yes!!  Although I visited megalithics all over Britain and Ireland, I
was particularly impressed with those in Scotland, and the particular
concentration in Orkney.  
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda/Scotland2004/Menu185.html

It seems as if the only ancient thing in Shetlands is the Mousa Brouch.
I see it is off on a small island.  I assume there is some kind of
boat one can hire?  I saw something like it on Lewis (Dun Carloway),
but Mousa looks way more complete.

What other megalithics things are there in the Shetlands?

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Mike........ - 29 Jul 2008 18:43 GMT
Following up to Dan Stephenson

> What other megalithics things are there in the Shetlands?

Jarlshof is the main ancient site with another site just up the road being
excavated:-
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/jarlshof.htm" If you count the current hotel
next dor, the new lairds house, its had building on the site for something
like 4000  years. There are other various mounds and things dotted about
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/IMGP1665.htm"

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Dan Stephenson - 30 Jul 2008 04:32 GMT
> There are other various mounds and things dotted about

That is very nice to hear.

I've heard some places in Scandanavia have those burial mounds with
kerbstones in the shape of a boat.

Are there other megalithics in Scandanavia of a stone circle, standing
stone, etc nature?

Or of a iron age nature, even, like Mousa Broch?
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tim..... - 30 Jul 2008 19:06 GMT
>> There are other various mounds and things dotted about
>
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>
> Or of a iron age nature, even, like Mousa Broch?

you can start here:

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/search.php?country=14

http://www.werbeka.com/vasteras/anunde.htm

is probably the best.  (Don't be fooled by "just a couple of hundred yards
outside of the City of Västerås", this is calculated from the largest
possible definition of Västerås city.  It certainly isn't walking distance
from the town centre, nor does it seem to be near a town bus route).

tim
Mike..... - 28 Jul 2008 09:53 GMT
Following up to Gerald Oliver Swift

> Yes, there is a NorthLink ferry from Scrabster to Stromness (Orkneys), then
> a bus up to Kirkwall from where you could catch another Northlink ferry to
> Lerwick.

assuming they are driving (otherwise fly?) you might as well go to Aberdeen
and take the one boat
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Mike..... - 28 Jul 2008 09:52 GMT
Following up to Dan Stephenson

> Thanks, as a recall, Scrabster is right across from Orkney, and
> there're surely a ferry then to Shetlands.

over night from Aberdeen
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Dan Stephenson - 29 Jul 2008 18:33 GMT
> Following up to Dan Stephenson
>> Thanks, as a recall, Scrabster is right across from Orkney, and
>> there're surely a ferry then to Shetlands.
>
> over night from Aberdeen

Well, recall, this was to be my 'detour' from Norway to the Shetlands
because I missed visiting there on a more general trip to Scotland a
few years back.  I would rather go to Scrabster and then to Lerwick,
than involve Aberdeen somehow.
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Mike..... - 28 Jul 2008 09:51 GMT
Following up to Dan Stephenson

> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
> Norway and the Shetland Islands.  Any ideas?

Smyril Line's new super-ferry Norröna connects Lerwick with Hanstholm in
Denmark and Bergen, there have been changes though, start on this page.

"http://www.visitshetland.com/getting-here/by-ferry"
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Dan Stephenson - 29 Jul 2008 18:35 GMT
> Following up to Dan Stephenson
>> I've looked around on the net but I cannot find a ferry between Bergen
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>
> "http://www.visitshetland.com/getting-here/by-ferry"

Ah, perfect, thanks for the lead, I hadn't seen that one.
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