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Travel Forum / Destinations / Europe / September 2008Britain's happiest places mapped
Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7584321.stm "Brecknock, Montgomery and Radnor in Powys was the happiest place. Manchester came second, followed by West Lothian. Macclesfield, Nottingham and Falkirk were all in the top 10. The London borough of Sutton was one of the few places in the south of England to do well. Edinburgh, despite its cosmopolitan reputation and internationally acclaimed fringe festival, was bottom of the list."  Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Edinburgh, despite its cosmopolitan reputation and internationally > acclaimed fringe festival, was bottom of the list." Yes, I read BBC News headlines as well. You didn't mention yesterday's headline news that by 2060, Britain will have the largest population in Europe at 71 million, bigger than France and Germany? >> Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >headline news that by 2060, Britain will have the largest population in >Europe at 71 million, bigger than France and Germany? Yes we did. We thought it was rubbish. By 2050 UK will be decimated by an outbreak of the dreaded Black Pudding strain of BSE. SignatureMartin >>Yes, I read BBC News headlines as well. You didn't mention yesterday's >>headline news that by 2060, Britain will have the largest population in >>Europe at 71 million, bigger than France and Germany? > >Yes we did. We thought it was rubbish. By 2050 UK will be decimated by an >outbreak of the dreaded Black Pudding strain of BSE. ScRungiform Myalitis? Keith (formerly of Bristol UK) now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen > > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > headline news that by 2060, Britain will have the largest population in > Europe at 71 million, bigger than France and Germany? I didn't need to. I knew you'd be along to chime in with it. Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle >>> Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I didn't need to. I knew you'd be along to chime in with it. (chuckle) what I find remarkable looking at the UK from Google Earth is that Wales is virtually uninhabited, so I guess there is room after all to fit another 10 million in- and they'll be living in the happiest part of the country. Following up to Tom P >> "Brecknock, Montgomery and Radnor in Powys was the happiest place. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yes, I read BBC News headlines as well. No surprise that a dullish place like Sutton does better than an "acclaimed" city centre, happiness doesnt depend on tourist attractions. In any case, who judges one persons happiness against anothers? SignatureM.......... google-groups killfiled (known posters whitelisted) Remove the obvious to email Following up to M............ > No surprise that a dullish place like Sutton does better and by coincidence I just saw the crime rate is one of the lowest in London. I'm surprised nowhere in the SW felt itself happy (probably because the indiginous cornish suffer from low pay and high house prices inflated by incomers and holiday homes). SignatureM.......... google-groups killfiled (known posters whitelisted) Remove the obvious to email > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Manchester came second, followed by West Lothian. Macclesfield, > Nottingham and Falkirk were all in the top 10. I presume Manchester is in the mix because the football team is doing reasonably well. It can't be because it is such a great place to live. Last time I was near there we could hardly breathe because of the pollution. > > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I presume Manchester is in the mix because the football team is doing > reasonably well. I don't have a clue how they arrive at such silly statistics. > It can't be because it is such a great place to live. Last time I was near > there we could hardly breathe because of the pollution. It's a surprise I can even get up in the morning then, seeing as I live right in the centre. Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle >> > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It's a surprise I can even get up in the morning then, seeing as I live > right in the centre. Humans get used to anything, even hanging! > >> > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > >> > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > Humans get used to anything, even hanging! Some don't get used to breathing, apparently. Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle >>> > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >>> > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >Humans get used to anything, even hanging! Even XXXX? SignatureMartin >>>> > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >>>> > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Even XXXX? Well - that may be stretching it a little. >> > Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >It's a surprise I can even get up in the morning then, seeing as I live >right in the centre. but you have NHS gills. SignatureMartin >> Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It can't be because it is such a great place to live. Last time I was near > there we could hardly breathe because of the pollution. That must have been a long time ago. I went to Salford University in 1970. In the first years you sometimes couldn't see the froth on the river Irwell for the smog but when I left Manchester in 1979 it was much cleaner. SignatureAudio Tour Guide d day Normandy. Self Guiding. http://normandy-tour-guide.cpmac.com.audio-guide.php3 Driver guide Normandy > >> Maybe happy is a euphemism for "pissed" (UK meaning)? :) > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > couldn't see the froth on the river Irwell for the smog but when I left > Manchester in 1979 it was much cleaner. Manchester is part of a large conurbation, so it has pollution- I go to the countryside enough that you can tell the difference when you come back. I just don't think it's any worse than other European cities of its size (even though some are noticeably less polluted), and I've certainly travelled enough to judge the air quality on a personal level. If you walk to a place at a distance where you can see Manchester's urban area, you can definitely see the effects of pollution. I noticed this in February on a particularly clear crisp day when we were walking around Alderley Edge. There's a grimy haze hangs above Manchester, even if it seems clear (as it did that day) within the city itself. Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle David Horne, _the_ chancellor*: > If you walk to a place at a distance where you can see Manchester's > urban area, you can definitely see the effects of pollution. I noticed > this in February on a particularly clear crisp day when we were walking > around Alderley Edge. There's a grimy haze hangs above Manchester, even > if it seems clear (as it did that day) within the city itself. Probably something like this: http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/9023-1/pollution-manchester-c2289.jpg SignatureErick > David Horne, _the_ chancellor*: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Probably something like this: > http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/9023-1/pollution-manchester-c2289.jpg Not exactly- from a distance, you see it hang over the city- that picture just looks like bad weather! :) This picture isn't very good quality, but shows what I mean. You see it as a band in the middle of the picture. http://www.davidhorne.net/alderleyedge.jpg Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle >> David Horne, _the_ chancellor*: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Not exactly- from a distance, you see it hang over the city- that >picture just looks like bad weather! :) It's just cloud innit? >This picture isn't very good quality, but shows what I mean. You see it >as a band in the middle of the picture. > >http://www.davidhorne.net/alderleyedge.jpg It's the atmosphere given off by Ferraris driven by footballers wives. SignatureMartin >David Horne, _the_ chancellor*: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Probably something like this: >http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/9023-1/pollution-manchester-c2289.jpg The stuff that hangs over A'dam & the motorways on a still frosty day is yellowish. On other days it is fall out from Hoogovens. http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,3202074_1,00.jpg "Environment | 19.03.2008 Europe's Worst Pollution Pocket Found Above Western Germany Smoke stacks Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Western Germany is a center of industry Home to Germany's steel and coal industries, the area between Amsterdam and Frankfurt is the most polluted in Europe, scientists said. German researchers in Bremen based their findings on new, unique satellite data." SignatureMartin Martin: > http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,3202074_1,00.jpg > Home to Germany's steel and coal industries, the area between Amsterdam and > Frankfurt is the most polluted in Europe, scientists said. German researchers > in Bremen based their findings on new, unique satellite data." With a general SW wind direction in that area, I would have expected to see the area to the North and East (say, from Groningen to Kiel/Flensburg) more reddish. SignatureErick >Martin: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >see the area to the North and East (say, from Groningen to >Kiel/Flensburg) more reddish. I guess it depends on when they made the measurements. AFAIR ESA's Envisat was used. http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM340NKPZD_index_0.html SignatureMartin >>David Horne, _the_ chancellor*: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > researchers in > Bremen based their findings on new, unique satellite data." I guess my problem is that I live in the Perth (Western Australia) area and we don't really know the meaning of pollution. :-) [] > I guess my problem is that I live in the Perth (Western Australia) area and > we don't really know the meaning of pollution. :-) Really? <http://portal.environment.wa.gov.au/portal/page?_pageid=54,34288&_dad=p ortal&_schema=PORTAL> "Perth, like most urban areas of Australia, experiences occasional episodes of poor air quality. The main issues are photochemical smog in summer and particle haze during winter. Major sources of pollution are motor vehicles, domestic sources (principally wood heaters) and industry." Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle >[] >> I guess my problem is that I live in the Perth (Western Australia) area and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >motor vehicles, domestic sources (principally wood heaters) and >industry." Looks like Manchester is one of the cleanest places in the world. SignatureMartin > >[] > >> I guess my problem is that I live in the Perth (Western Australia) area and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Looks like Manchester is one of the cleanest places in the world. Not from here it doesn't! Signature(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "The fact is that when I compose I never think of and never have thought of meeting the listener." -George Perle Following up to Erick T. Barkhuis > this in February on a particularly clear crisp day when we were walking >> around Alderley Edge. There's a grimy haze hangs above Manchester, even >> if it seems clear (as it did that day) within the city itself. but you do often get haze below you when in the hills, city or not. Sometimes because theres an inversion. SignatureM.......... google-groups killfiled (known posters whitelisted) Remove the obvious to email |
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