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Poll: Drill? (I can hear Pelosi and Reid wringing their hands 8^)

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JanOrme99@aol.com - 17 Jul 2008 05:32 GMT
There is an AOL News Online Poll tonight on
their "Political Machine." The question is.....

Should the Democratic Congress overturn
the ban on domestic offshore drilling?

Polling is still going on. But here's some results
with National votes of 65,552 in.  Below is national
results and some key states.

                    %          %           %
                  YES        NO     MAYBE
Nation           75%      23%        2%
WA               68          30          2
OR                73          26          1
CA                 68          30         2
TX                  81          17         2
LA                  85           13        2
MS                 84           14        2
FL                  72            26       2
GA                 80            18       2
SC                  81            17       2
VA                  78            20       2
DC                 49            46        5
NJ                  72            25        3
NY                  70            27       3
MA                  72           25        3
AK                   72           26       2

Not a NIMBY State in sight. However, the DC vote is
just too funny!

Here's a link to "Wonkette"
http://wonkette.com/401125/george-bush-asks-congress-for-latest-capitulation-on-
drilling


Jan Eric Orme
Jim Ferguson - 17 Jul 2008 14:45 GMT
> There is an AOL News Online Poll tonight on
> their "Political Machine." The question is.....
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>
> Jan Eric Orme

Naturally.  The most liberal part of the country.
JF
JD - 17 Jul 2008 23:32 GMT
>> There is an AOL News Online Poll tonight on
>> their "Political Machine." The question is.....
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>Naturally.  The most liberal part of the country.
>JF

DC voters are proven to have less than high intelligence.  I really
doubt 90% of them could name the capitals of 3 states, most have never
been 100 miles away from DC (unless bussed to a march) and few have
jobs paying more than min.  They measure their addresses such as the
"fifth pile of stuff" from the corner of Penna Ave and 3rd going west.

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Yours truly, Johnny Dollar!
Nate - 17 Jul 2008 21:19 GMT
> There is an AOL News Online Poll tonight on
> their "Political Machine." The question is.....
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>
> Jan Eric Orme

Thank God we got us a Republican form of government so we don't need to
worry about these polls.  Otherwise it would be a democracy.  And since it
isn't a democracy, the fact that 3/4s of Americans are stupid enough to
think off shore drilling will drop the price at the fuel pump is completely
irrelevant.  Our elected reps are supposed to be smarter than us.  Do you
think they will vote with their heads or with their political careers?

Nate
JanOrme99@aol.com - 17 Jul 2008 23:49 GMT
On Jul 17, 12:19�pm, "Nate" <nsaptaemcscpn...@nsvpbaemlslp.anmet>
wrote:

> Thank God we got us a Republican form of government so we don't need to
> worry about these polls. �Otherwise it would be a democracy. �And since it
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>
> Nate
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If they are like many people I know there vote
is not one of thinking this alone will get us a
lower price and be THE thing that gets us
away from foreign oil. But it is a start, Nate.
And we have already seen what just talking
about it effects the market.

The people of America are not stupid. They know
that we have to do a lot of different things to
stop the GIGANTIC flow of money out to pay
for our current usage of 70% foreign oil. Some
estimate that a 1% drop in foreign buying relates
to a 10% drop in the price at the pump.

When and if we make the turn and start buying
less foreign oil for a period of time the market
will react. My opinion. Others agree.

Doing nothing sure as sh.t gets us nowhere.
As for Congress, it goes without saying that
they will vote to save their own a.s and career.
If they perceive that 75% of the voters are
pissed how will they react? Pathetic scum that
they are we all know that answer. I wish
Will Rogers was here to comment.

Some entreprenuers are putting their money
where their mouth is. One of those is
T. Boone Pickens. He knows that we sure
as sh.t cannot rely on Congrees for diddly
sh.t unless it lines their pocket with no real
committment on their part.

Jan
Mark Jones - 18 Jul 2008 01:16 GMT
> Some entreprenuers are putting their money
> where their mouth is. One of those is
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>
> Jan

What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?
Frank Howell - 18 Jul 2008 02:22 GMT
>> Some entreprenuers are putting their money
>> where their mouth is. One of those is
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>
> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?

Who's Al Gore?

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Eregon - 18 Jul 2008 02:29 GMT
"Frank Howell" <fphowell@yahoo.com> wrote in news:487ff0a2$0$1810$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

> Who's Al Gore?

Obama's answer to Monica?

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GBinNC - 18 Jul 2008 05:29 GMT
>> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?

>Who's Al Gore?

What's a speach?

GB in NC
Eregon. - 18 Jul 2008 07:16 GMT
>>> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?
>
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>
> GB in NC

That's the hack-written text that an idiot recites when he speeks to a
crowd. <dg>

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Mark Jones - 18 Jul 2008 22:23 GMT
>>> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?
>
>> Who's Al Gore?
>
> What's a speach?

I didn't think it looked correct when I typed it. Just looked odd.
Bruce S - 18 Jul 2008 03:45 GMT
>> Some entreprenuers are putting their money
>> where their mouth is. One of those is
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>
> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?

Do you have a link?  Preferably text - I can't stand to listen to him.

Bruce
Lone Haranguer - 18 Jul 2008 04:12 GMT
> "Mark Jones" <noemail@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?
>
> Do you have a link?  Preferably text - I can't stand to listen to him.

Keep your barf bag handy.
LZ
Mark Jones - 18 Jul 2008 22:26 GMT
>>> Some entreprenuers are putting their money
>>> where their mouth is. One of those is
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>
> Do you have a link?  Preferably text - I can't stand to listen to him.

No. He is calling for the nation to switch to all renewable energy
sources for electricity within the next 10 years.

My thought is that we should try to do as much as we can,
simply for the national defense implications if we weren't
needing to import so much oil.
Bruce S - 19 Jul 2008 00:38 GMT
> Bruce S wrote:
>>>
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> simply for the national defense implications if we weren't
> needing to import so much oil.

I saw some comments about the speech (don't care enough to look for the
speech itself), and noted that he DID NOT call for more nuclear, but that he
did want more wind and solar - neither of which is feasible at this time.
He is pushing pie in the sky and doesn't care if it will destroy the economy
in the process.

Bruce
Mark Jones - 19 Jul 2008 02:13 GMT
>> Bruce S wrote:
>>>>
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>
> Bruce

I wouldn't take any energy sources off the table. Nuclear energy should
be given the fast track and then we could reduce our consumption of
coal and natural gas.

It will take a long time to make the transition, but it will never happen
if we don't start. His 10 year idea is more than likely too much money
in too short a time period. I can just see some of his environmental
friends fighting this idea too, because it will mean new energy sources
and power transmission lines in places where there will be arguments
about their route. It could very well pit one environmental group
against another.
JD - 19 Jul 2008 02:01 GMT
>>>> Some entreprenuers are putting their money
>>>> where their mouth is. One of those is
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>No. He is calling for the nation to switch to all renewable energy
>sources for electricity within the next 10 years.

For once I can agree in general with the boob.  But, to do so will
require nukes, coal, solar, wind, etc.  But he is against those
technologies too.  No more gas powered personal vehicles.  Save that
for diesel for RVs, SUVs and Trucking.

>My thought is that we should try to do as much as we can,
>simply for the national defense implications if we weren't
>needing to import so much oil.

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Yours truly, Johnny Dollar!
JanOrme99@aol.com - 18 Jul 2008 07:10 GMT
> JanOrm...@aol.com wrote:
> > Some entreprenuers are putting their money
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>
> What is your opinion regarding Al Gore's speach today?
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Did not see it. But let me guess before I look.
Would I be correct in assuming he never once
mentioned Nuclear Power Plants?

Jan
Frank Howell - 18 Jul 2008 02:55 GMT
> On Jul 17, 12:19?pm, "Nate" <nsaptaemcscpn...@nsvpbaemlslp.anmet>
> wrote:
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> And we have already seen what just talking
> about it effects the market.

That's the standard line from the Democratic Party and they're right, but of
course they conveniently omit the fact, that the domestic oil we have now,
came from drilling years ago. Since there is already offshore drilling off
Calif. and in the Gulf why not expand our risk and open the rest?

What does that buy us 5 years down the line? Maybe some more time to act as
a buffer zone to allow society to adapt to whatever forms of energy that
will replace oil.
What ever it is; nuclear, solar, windpower, biomass, or a combination of all
and others not mentioned, will need time to build the infrastructure that
would be needed to do what oil does today.

> The people of America are not stupid. They know
> that we have to do a lot of different things to
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>
> Jan

Sooner or later the citizens will get that oil is the only immediate fuel
that will give them what the alternative fuels won't; transportation! With
230 million internal combustion cars on the road, any new mode would take
decades just to manufacture replacement vehicles and refueling capabilities.
How will the Democrates solve this problem?

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