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Bill - 23 Jul 2008 19:57 GMT
After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make the
run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around the
Galveston area. At the time, Dolly was a poorly organized storm system over
Cuba.

Well, Dolly got herself a little better organized. We evacuated the island
yesterday and drove 20 miles or so inland to San Benito, TX. As I write
this, the eyewall of Dolly, the area with the strongest winds, is passing
over us.

It's a non-event. A little wind, a little rain. No worse than your average
Hill Country thunderstorm. Except without the awesome lightening that
accompanies those Texas-sized events. In fact, I haven't seen any
lightening, or heard any thunder at all.

Since rainfall is heavy, areas in the Rio Grande valley that are prone to
flooding probably will do so over the next couple of days, but that happens
with any significant rain. As hurricanes go, Dolly is a pussycat. You
wouldn't get that sense from the news media, though, who are trying to
sensationalize every fallen tree limb or broken window. As an old Miami boy,
I give Dolly a "1" on the Hurricane Fear Scale. Even if I am riding it out
in a motorhome.

The worst thing about this storm is that it's robbing me of a couple of
prime fishing and beach days. Hope the storm isn't bothering anybody else.

- Bill (El Alumbrado)
RAM³ - 23 Jul 2008 21:01 GMT
> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make
> the run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around
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How close did the "EYE" come to San Benito?

According to the sundry Weather channels, it should (1500 CDT) be about
there.
Bill - 23 Jul 2008 21:28 GMT
>> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make
>> the run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around
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>> I write this, the eyewall of Dolly, the area with the strongest winds,
>> is passing over us.

> How close did the "EYE" come to San Benito?
>
> According to the sundry Weather channels, it should (1500 CDT) be about
> there.

The "Weather Underground" real time radar image (www.wunderground.com) shows
that the "eye" itself is right now a couple of miles to our north. We're
getting the worst that Dolly has to offer right now, with what I'd guess to
be 70-75 mph gusts from the west. I'm in "Sun and Fun", Encore's park in San
Benito. There's an inch or two of water in the grassy areas, but the
concrete pads and roadways are not submerged. The Park Model homes that I
can see appear pretty much undamaged except for one that lost it's car port
roof, and another that's missing some aluminum siding slats. There is a
"cheapo" Home Depot plastic garden shed that pretty much burst. It's
contents are now probably halfway to Cancun. Power is out, but our generator
is keeping us comfy, cool, and entertained. We're rocking and rolling a bit,
but nothing to be concerned about. It looks like the worst will be over
within the next hour or so.

My only concern is that we're going to get dinged by a piece of somebody's
flying "yard art". It seems that the residents fled leaving all sorts of
junk lying around. Yet another reason to hate wind chimes.

- Bill (El Alumbrado)
Bob Giddings - 23 Jul 2008 21:33 GMT
>>> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make
>>> the run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around
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>
>- Bill (El Alumbrado)

I'm gonna have to start calling you "Pecos Bill".  You diddled
Dolly,  you tamed the hurricane...

Bob
Bill - 23 Jul 2008 22:57 GMT
> I'm gonna have to start calling you "Pecos Bill".

Hey, that's a good idea. There's too many "Bills" around here anyway.

PecosBill it is.

- PecosBill (El Alumbrado)
JD - 24 Jul 2008 03:09 GMT
>I'm gonna have to start calling you "Pecos Bill".  You diddled
>Dolly,  you tamed the hurricane...
>
>Bob

He just applied the old Democrat "spin 'TO THE LEFT'" and reversed the
action.
---

$$$$$$$$$%%
Yours truly, Johnny Dollar!
RAM³ - 23 Jul 2008 22:07 GMT
>>> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to
>>> make the run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang
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> all sorts of junk lying around. Yet another reason to hate wind
> chimes.

The "eye" had 100-120 MPH winds.

I'm glad that you didn't have to contend with *them*.

Let's all sing "Hooray For Generators!"
GBinNC - 23 Jul 2008 22:13 GMT
>Yet another reason to hate wind chimes.

LOL. Got enough reasons already. Don't need another one.

GB in NC
Bill - 23 Jul 2008 23:07 GMT
> It looks like the worst will be over within the next hour or so.

Oh well. It looks like Dolly's "eye" has stalled just to our north. We've
been getting consistently strong winds (I'd guess 50 or so) with higher
gusts (70-80?) for the past couple of hours. Looking at the radar, Dolly
doesn't seem to be in any hurry to move along.

This is my first "weather" experience in a trailer park. All of the
"roadworthy" vehicles I can see, fifth-wheels and motorhomes, appear
undamaged, but *every* park home in sight has damage, from minor (missing
siding) to severe (entire missing roof). I'm guessing that the road vehicles
are built for this kind of wind, but the park homes are pretty flimsy. If
Dolly had been a real hurricane, I think the park homes would be just plain
gone. You couldn't give me one.

I only have one problem: do you know those little weep holes at the bottom
of motorhome side windows? Well, 70-mph rain will turn them into little
fountains.

- PecosBill
Hunter Hampton - 23 Jul 2008 23:57 GMT
> We've been getting consistently strong winds (I'd guess 50 or so) with higher
>gusts (70-80?) for the past couple of hours.

<SNIP>

>I'm guessing that the road vehicles
>are built for this kind of wind, but the park homes are pretty flimsy.

They better be... I've had my Airstream going 70 mph..... and the roof
stayed on.

Hunter
Bill - 24 Jul 2008 00:33 GMT
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:07:18 -0500, "Bill"
> <w8j6c4o7l2l9u4m5@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> They better be... I've had my Airstream going 70 mph..... and the roof
> stayed on.

Sideways?

- PecosBill
Hunter Hampton - 24 Jul 2008 01:41 GMT
>> They better be... I've had my Airstream going 70 mph..... and the roof
>> stayed on.
>
>Sideways?

No, but what difference would that make? You said "built for this kind
of wind" presumably saying they won't come apart... you said nothing
about tipping over.

Maybe I misunderstood.

Hunter
Bill - 24 Jul 2008 04:06 GMT
>  "Bill"  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Maybe I misunderstood.

No, not really. Most of the morning, the wind was out of the north, right on
our nose. No problem, as an 80 mph wind on the nose just simulates highway
speed. Later, the wind backed around to the west, which put it right on our
beam and that of the nearby park model homes. That's when pieces started
flying. All of the travel trailers and motorhomes that I can see appear to
be fine even though the strongest winds of the storm hit them from the side,
but *every* park model in view has been damaged to a lesser or greater
extent.

I'm sure that an Airstream, as aerodynamic as it is, would have been fine in
these conditions. Providing that it didn't roll over. My motorhome is
probably 5 or 6 times heavier than a typical trailer, but has a pretty good
"sail area" if the wind is from the side. The owner's manual says that an
85mph side wind might tip it over. I filled my water tanks, adding weight
down low for added stability. I also dumped the air out of my suspension,
lowering the coach about 8 inches. I then dropped the hydraulic jacks until
they took some of the weight, but didn't raise the coach any. As the wind
veered to the west, I tilted the coach to the left, into the wind. We tossed
around a bit, but I never felt unstable.

We're still tossing around now in high winds and heavy rain. There's not an
electric light to be seen.

- Bill
Bob Giddings - 24 Jul 2008 04:10 GMT
>>  "Bill"  wrote:
>>
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>
>- Bill

Hard to believe you went looking for this.

Bob
Janet Wilder - 24 Jul 2008 04:01 GMT
Pecos Bill,

I sent you an email.

Janet, hoping her home  is okay
John A. Weeks III - 23 Jul 2008 23:32 GMT
> Well, Dolly got herself a little better organized. We evacuated the island
> yesterday and drove 20 miles or so inland to San Benito, TX. As I write
> this, the eyewall of Dolly, the area with the strongest winds, is passing
> over us.

At work today, a co-worker mentioned that his parents used to live
in the Rio Grande Valley.  He was speculating that the area is so
flat and low that a major hurricane might bring a storm surge many
miles inland, and the rain would have nowhere to go.  Did you hear
of any water problems with the Cat 2 storm today?  Any ideas on
what kind of a flood a Cat 4 might leave behind?

-john-

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Bob Giddings - 23 Jul 2008 23:39 GMT
>> Well, Dolly got herself a little better organized. We evacuated the island
>> yesterday and drove 20 miles or so inland to San Benito, TX. As I write
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>
>-john-

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a3OUUBR.33EY&refer=us
Lone Haranguer - 24 Jul 2008 00:14 GMT
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:29 -0500, "John A. Weeks III" Any ideas on
>> what kind of a flood a Cat 4 might leave behind?
>>
>> -john-

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:OPE5j74xdZYJ:hurricanes.tamu.edu/bret_psa/c
hapter_3.pdf+site:hurricanes.tamu.edu+kleberg/kenedy+county+hurricAne+bret&hl=en
&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us


A follow up report on Hurricane Bret in 1999.
LZ

> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a3OUUBR.33EY&refer=us
Bill - 23 Jul 2008 23:44 GMT
> Did you hear
> of any water problems with the Cat 2 storm today?  Any ideas on
> what kind of a flood a Cat 4 might leave behind?

I don't know of any specific problems. I can see some grassy areas with a
few inches of standing water, but I haven't driven around today. Dolly
certainly wasn't a CAT II for very long after she came ashore, and has
decayed to Tropical Storm status now. There are flash flood warnings all
over the place, and I suspect that the result will be what we see in the
hill country after a day or two of strong thunderstorms: some downed tree
limbs, low water crossings with 2-4 feet of water, and poorly drained areas
with a foot or so of standing water for a day or so. A CAT IV hurricane is a
whole different animal. I'm sure that would burst the levees along the Rio
Grande and make a real mess. I doubt that Dolly will have any such major
effect. I hope not, anyway.

- PecosBill
Lone Haranguer - 24 Jul 2008 00:31 GMT
>> Did you hear
>> of any water problems with the Cat 2 storm today?  Any ideas on
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>
> - PecosBill

The storm's track speed will pretty much decide how much rain falls in
any given area.  I'd worry more about location than wind speeds.
LZ
Lone Haranguer - 24 Jul 2008 01:05 GMT
> The storm's track speed will pretty much decide how much rain falls in
> any given area.  I'd worry more about location than wind speeds.
> LZ

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=1&
frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=BRO&type=NTP&showstorms=0&lat=26.185
61935&lon=-97.66464233&label=San%20Benito,%20TX&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&
centerx=400&centery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_m
in=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0


How to decide whether you chose a good location.
LZ
Janet Wilder - 24 Jul 2008 03:49 GMT
> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make the
> run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> - Bill (El Alumbrado)

I'm really worried about my house. Not so much from the wind, but the
water. Are you in Fun & Sun? If you are, you are close  to my house.
Lone Haranguer - 24 Jul 2008 03:55 GMT
>> After finishing my business in Houston last Friday, we decided to make
>> the run down the coast to South Padre Island, rather than hang around
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> I'm really worried about my house. Not so much from the wind, but the
> water. Are you in Fun & Sun? If you are, you are close  to my house.

According to radar measurements, 20 inches of rain have fallen just
north of San Benito.

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=zoom&num=1&delay=15&rbsc
ale=0.21304347826086956&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=BRO&type=NTP&lat=26.18561935&
lon=-97.66464233&label=San%20Benito,%20TX&showstorms=0&map.x=391&map.y=217&cente
rx=400&centery=240&lightning=0&smooth=0&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0

LZ
Bill - 24 Jul 2008 04:18 GMT
> Janet Wilder wrote:

>> I'm really worried about my house. Not so much from the wind, but the
>> water. Are you in Fun & Sun? If you are, you are close  to my house.
>
> According to radar measurements, 20 inches of rain have fallen just north
> of San Benito.

No obvious flooding that I can see. Grass is a little soggy, but the
pavement is not submerged.

Janet, we'll try to check on your place tomorrow.

- Bill
Janet Wilder - 24 Jul 2008 04:55 GMT
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> - Bill

Thanks so very, very much.
Lone Haranguer - 24 Jul 2008 05:00 GMT
> Bill wrote:=
>> Janet, we'll try to check on your place tomorrow.
>>
>> - Bill
>
> Thanks so very, very much.

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=TXZ255&warncounty=TXC061&fire
wxzone=TXZ255&local_place1=3+Miles+W+Indian+Lake+TX&product1=Flood+Advisory


Warning update.
LZ
Neon John - 24 Jul 2008 14:26 GMT
>Well, Dolly got herself a little better organized. We evacuated the island
>yesterday and drove 20 miles or so inland to San Benito, TX. As I write
>this, the eyewall of Dolly, the area with the strongest winds, is passing
>over us.

Not doing news, I didn't know that hurricane season had arrived again.  I was
curious about yesterday's installment of my favorite web.comic.  I thought
you'd get a kick out of too.

http://xkcd.com/453/

I especially like the one named "cos(x)"  :-)

John
--
John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net!
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
So you're a feminist... Isn't that cute!
Bob Giddings - 24 Jul 2008 16:20 GMT
>>Well, Dolly got herself a little better organized. We evacuated the island
>>yesterday and drove 20 miles or so inland to San Benito, TX. As I write
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>John

If you have ever been or contemplated being in grad school, you
might like this one.  I got hooked, and read the whole series
from the start.  Took a couple of days.  :o)

They come out about once a week.  This site always has the
current one:

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php

And here's some random picks:

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=986

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=976

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=966

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=946

Bob
Neon John - 24 Jul 2008 21:13 GMT
>If you have ever been or contemplated being in grad school, you
>might like this one.  I got hooked, and read the whole series
>from the start.  Took a couple of days.  :o)

Never done grad school but having sponsored a bunch of commercial academic
research (that's where you try to get a college prof to actually do what he's
contracted to do before he figures out how to turn the project into a
perpetual money machine), I can certainly identify.

I particularly liked this one

>http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=976

Furrier transformer indeed :-)

This is my other favorite web.toon

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com

I liked him a lot better before he hit the big time with a syndication deal.
Many of his political and current event snipes go right over my head since I
don't do news.

John

--
John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net!
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
There is room for all of God's creatures.... Right next to the mashed potatoes.
Bob Giddings - 24 Jul 2008 22:31 GMT
>>If you have ever been or contemplated being in grad school, you
>>might like this one.  I got hooked, and read the whole series
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Furrier transformer indeed :-)

That's a good one.  Kind of a doubletake gotcha.  

First all the obvious gobbledegook from the undergrad.  

Then the spectacle of the myopic techhead teaching assistant
who's been doing this for so many years she can't even see the
bullshit he wrote, rushing right by to desperately focus instead
on what he should have been, could have been, maybe inDiracly was
trying to write, but if so got wrong anyway.

And thus she performs an obliviously indiscrete transform of her
own.  :o)

Who's the deeper in the doodoo?  

Bob
 
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