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Travel Forum / Travel Types / RV Travel / July 2008Ping: Alan Robinson
I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced from your address. Tom altar1@comcast.net >I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced > from your address. > > Tom > > altar1@comcast.net Bounced? That's interesting - my ISP does server-side spam filtering, but email is -supposed- to be either forwarded, quarantined, or dropped depending on how it scores on a variety of tests, NOT bounced. I just put you into my whitelist - try again. Alan >> I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got >> bounced from your address. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alan Mines been bounced sending to you too in the past (more than once) so it's not rare occurrence.. Tom  Signaturehttp://www.rvlover.net http://weather.rvlover.net >>> I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got >>> bounced from your address. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tom Interesting - if it happens again, PLEASE save the bounce and let me know - If'n I'm gonna fight with my ISP, helps to have ammo.... Alan >>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Alan Hi Alan. I want to temporarily hijack this thread. Yesterday I spent another dreary hour looking at a motorhome, and trying to get an old Onan started. This was an "Emerald One", circa 1987. I have a Honda 3000i that I carry around in the back of my pickup, and it doesn't get used for months at a time. The battery in it died sometime back. I've never gotten it fixed, because it starts right up with just the slightest pull or two on the rope. My theory is that I have no trouble starting it because I always stop it by turning off the gravity gas feed and letting it run until all the gas is used up. There's nothing in there to gum up. Don't Onans have a handy fuel shut off like that? Wouldn't it work as well on an Onan?I looked on the "Emerald One" and I couldn't find one. Bob >My theory is that I have no trouble starting it because I always >stop it by turning off the gravity gas feed and letting it run >until all the gas is used up. There's nothing in there to gum up. > >Don't Onans have a handy fuel shut off like that? No. >Wouldn't it >work as well on an Onan?I looked on the "Emerald One" and I >couldn't find one. Sure it would but that would add another 50 cents to the machine's cost. With the electronic controls, Onan could even let one push of the "stop" button turn off the electric fuel pump and let the generator run out of gas or two quick pushes would kill it immediately. Hmmm, I need to add that feature to my Generac.... There still remains this problem http://www.neon-john.com/Generator/Impact_3600/Carb_Overhaul.htm Specifically, the main jet being half way up the float bowl so that when the engine quits, there is still much gas in the bowl. I'm going to solve that problem on my generator the next time I get a round tuit by soldering a RC model fuel fitting to the bottom of the bowl and attaching a length of fuel tubing to it. When the tubing is held up, it shows the level in the bowl. Held below the bowl and it drains it. I've purchased the bits but I've not gotten around to installing them. John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net! Tellico Plains, Occupied TN Nuke the Whales! >>My theory is that I have no trouble starting it because I always >>stop it by turning off the gravity gas feed and letting it run [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Hmmm, I need to add that feature to my Generac.... I'm not up to changing electronic controls, but I believe a simple valve in the feed tube (which on this one was a rubber hose) would work as well. Especially since you wouldn't use it while traveling, but only when you put the thing up for an extended period. Simple is as simple does. Bob, the simpleton. >I'm not up to changing electronic controls, but I believe a >simple valve in the feed tube (which on this one was a rubber [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Simple is as simple does. Well yeah, a valve is what I have now. But then you pull in from a trip and it turns out to be the last one for awhile and you forget to go back out and turn the valve and flip the floatbowl drain.... That's how my carb got crudded up. I'd much rather let it run out of gas at the end of each trip. You wouldn't really have to do any electronics. Just run a pair of wires to your generator control panel, insert a switch and label it "fuel pump on/off" and splice the other end of the wires into the pump's power lead. Half hour job. John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net! Tellico Plains, Occupied TN If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat? Pictures, please, when you get to it. Would you run it dry every time you parked? Every winter you stored it? >> My theory is that I have no trouble starting it because I always >> stop it by turning off the gravity gas feed and letting it run [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Tellico Plains, Occupied TN > Nuke the Whales! >Pictures, please, when you get to it. Would you run it dry every time >you parked? Every winter you stored it? Every time I park it after a trip. Hitting the STOP button twice at the end of the last generator run and then going about your business is a no-brainer. As would be flipping the "fuel pump on/off" switch that I described to Bob in my previous post. John -- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net! Tellico Plains, Occupied TN If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat? > Hi Alan. I want to temporarily hijack this thread. Actually, me too. I have this mysterious issue that I'm not sure is even an issue with the generator. For the last year or so, when I turn on my Onan Microquiet, the microwave doesn't operate correctly. It's like the processor in the microwave is crippled. It acts weird like the key pad doesn't respond or the clock runs twice as fast. It's like the frequency is doubled or something but I know that's not true as I've measured the frequency and it's right around 60 Hz. Anyway, to remedy this issue, all I have to do is put a load on the gen. Like a space heater or the coffee maker. Voila, no more problem. But after it runs for an hour or so, the problem goes away too (without any additional load). Nothing else has any problems working on the gen except the microwave. TV and Vector charger work fine for example. Maybe it's noise and the microwave is more susceptible to it? It could be just a bad microwave but I don't know for sure. I haven't looked at the signal with an O'scope to see if there is noise. Could it be a slip-ring issue? Have you heard of this issue before? Thanks, Tom Signaturehttp://www.rvlover.net http://weather.rvlover.net >> Hi Alan. I want to temporarily hijack this thread. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Tom I suspect - based on it going away after a bit - that what you're seeing is either noise or a waveform problem which -may- be due either to your converter/charger or an interaction between it and the genset's voltage regulator. Only way to tell for sure would be an oscope. Alan > "Tom T" <tominkirkland@gmail.com> wrote in message >> I have this mysterious issue that I'm not sure is even an issue with [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > genset's voltage regulator. Only way to tell for sure would be an > oscope. Good point I hadn't thought of. If that's the case, I suppose I should just add a ferrite core to the microwave power cord to see if that is enough to eliminate a possible combination EMI issue from the converter/generator.. I'll see if the converter influences the issue first . Thanks, Tom Signaturehttp://www.rvlover.net http://weather.rvlover.net >>>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Bob They don't have one. It would probably work pretty well - the easiest thing to do would be to just put an on/off switch in the wire to the electric fuel pump - maybe even an on/off/prime switch if it's one of the ones that doesn't have a 'prime' function built into the controls. Alan >>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Alan OK Tom >>>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Tom Nothing as of yet (6:20 P.M.). Alan >>>>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Alan Dang. Maybe because it has a pdf file attached As long as I've got you on the line.... I've been toying with the idea of putting in a fixed waterproof Dual Pro charger maintainer. http://www.batterymart.com/p-dual-pro-12v-15a-battery-charger.html They make several different flavors, all designed to be mounted permanently. If I do that, and one day down the line my converter wakes up, I would then have two charging systems trying to charge at the same time. I am of the opinion that it wouldn't hurt anything, and since I can't figure out how to disable the onboard charging system (which doesn't work right now anyway)........ Thoughts? Tom >>>>>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>>>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Tom It should work ok - if the other charger ever wakes up, appears this one is smart enough it'll just figure the battery is charged and shut itself off. On the email - still nothing as of 11:30 PM - don't know what's going on, as I'm getting spam in the quarantine section and just got someone else's email in my inbox. Once you're in the whitelist, it's not even supposed to worry about -what- is in the email. I'll send you an email. Alan >>>>>>I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>>>>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >Alan OK. Tom >>>>> I sent you the email with the PD converter details, but it got bounced >>>>> from your address. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Tom My inverter/charger charges at the same time my converter is working. Fortunately it has an adjustable charging rate so I dial it in at a fraction higher voltage than what the converter is putting out. The converter hums, the inverter/charger is silent. So the converter takes the day off and the inverter/charger takes over. Been doing this in 3 motorhomes since 1995 and have had no problems. LZ |
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