Travel Forum / Travel Types / RV Travel / July 2009

Nope. "whom" is the object of the verb "to be" so it is appropriate.

Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher

He's careful. <vbg>

I have, Eddy, many times. <g> A few folks here felt sorry for the
bruises I inflicted on him, so they made me promise to filter him.

f.ck you and have an even nicer day, liver-can boy.  Eat sh.t and die
while you are at it.   Are you the f.cking net nanny this week.  If so,
f.ck you again.

Usenet is being destroyed by trolls and mean spirited people.  This is why
so many people are migrating to Forums that are moderated. The trolls and
those with psychological problems are removed, are banned, so the rest of
the members can post and read in peace.  This is another reason so many ISPs
have dropped Usenet. They're tired of dealing with complaints concerning
their customers.

He does not have a state pension plan. New York City teachers have a New
York City pension plan. I wrote that, but in your efforts to disparage
him, you seemed to have missed that.

Admit you are wrong and stop the BS. I worked in finance and taxation
and I can assure that $60,000 a year was no where near the top 20% of
incomes in the country. You are just making stuff up to justify whatever
it is that's under your skin.

No they are not. They are independent. They are managed separately and
administered separately. Your information is wrong.

I saved for retirement when I was a working single mother putting myself
through college. I made considerably less than $60,000 per year. And if
you were able to read through your prejudices you would have seen that
he only made that amount in the last year before he retired.

If you are so dirt poor, how can you have ever afforded an RV? That
money nearly wiped out one of our retirement plans. Do you think the
angels came down from heaven and gave me that money. What is the matter
with you?

What do you  know about his deal? Believe me it was not as good as some
of the deals in the years before him. He took some heavy penalties on
that "nice deal" but it worked better for him than disability.

You actually believe people would prefer a few dollars in the bank to
good health? You actually think anyone would prefer to bury their 21
year-old child just to have some money in the bank?  You're sick.

Maybe you should think before criticizing.

But there were many years that I didn't have it to put away. I put it
away anyway. I did not want to wind up like Mrs. Darlington. She stated
that they chose not to participate in their company plans. She never
said she could not afford to participate. They were working for a
hospital,for heavens sake, not McDonalds at minimum wage.

She made her choices and her bed. I sacrificed to provide for my own
future. I don't have to rely on the government to take care of me. I'm
damned proud of that. If I were Mrs. Darlington, I'd have been so
ashamed of my poor choices that I'd never have let anyone know about it.

Get over your stupid idea that I was born with a silver spoon in my
mouth. My parents never even owned their own home. My dad worked several
jobs to support his family and my mom worked full-time, too. I went to
Jersey City State College even though I had been accepted by much better
schools because that was all my folks could afford. I worked part-time
to help pay my way. I dropped out after 2 years when I married my first
husband. I was 20 years old. I got a job. He went into the National
Guard then his unit was called up and I had to move to Alabama where I
lost my first baby. They started levying his unit to Viet Nam and I was
still not well from the miscarriage that had me in the hospital for 2
weeks. No one would have wanted to be me.

Once my children were in school, I worked full time, too. I even went
back to school part-time with a 6 month old baby, a 2 year-old and a 4
year-old so I could get my associates degree and help our family
finances. When that baby turned 2, I went full-time with the aid of a
student loan and two scholarships and got my AAS as a Legal Assistant. I
graduated in 1978 and was earning a whopping $8,000/year. A couple of
years later I was a single parent making less than $12,000 a year, but I
managed to save a few bucks here and there and paid for my courses, fees
and books at Rutgers going to school at night after working all day with
a 30-50 mile commute each way (depending on the job) and raising 3 kids.
While I was doing that I was representing myself in court, because I
couldn't afford a lawyer, at least 4 times a year against my crazy
ex-husband whose girlfriend wanted to live in our house so he kept
fighting for custody of the kids. Besides everything else, I had to find
the money to take my kids to family counseling to help them get through
the crap their dad was pulling.

I turned my thermostat down at night and put aluminum coated sheets
under our bed sheets to reflect body warmth. I learned to cut up larger
on sale cuts of meat and whole chickens to save money. I used the bones
to make soup. I made pasta sauces from scratch from the tomatoes I grew
and canned. Instead of resting on Sundays, I cooked for the week ahead
so my kids could have decent, healthy meals. We picked apples and made
our own applesauce. That's how I managed to save the little bit I could
to put in my retirement fund. Ask Mrs. Whiny Darlington what she
sacrificed. Her own son wouldn't even pay for her to come and visit him
in New York. That tells me something about her.

No one has the right to tell me I have had an easy life and I am certain
that no one would have traded places with me. I don't know what your
problem is with me or care much what you fantasize about me, but I
worked for my retirement and I put money aside even when there was
precious little of it to go around.

I never asked anyone for anything. My husband and I worked for
everything we have and because we did, we deserve to enjoy the rewards
of our labor and our frugality. There is nothing you can say that will
make it otherwise. You can keep trying, but you continue to bark your
misconceptions and bad data up the wrong tree.

Snip?

Is "snip" the new plonk?

Hunter

Yes you did. I distinctly remember it in one of your whines about not
having any money to pay for campgrounds. That was the time you came here
asking everyone for advice on where to camp so you could visit your son
in Queens. Then when everyone made suggestions, you started complaining
about not having any money and having to wait for social security
because you "chose" not to put money in your company pension plans. I
have a good memory.