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St. Lewis & the Arch July 20, 2004

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Mike Hendrix - 25 Jul 2004 00:10 GMT
Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
hookup/50amps & cable no water but central dump.  Telephone at site
was $3 per-night extra.  This place has LOCATION!  Walk across bridge
to arch.  Arch is visible out our window across the river.  LOCATION!

This was our day to do the ARCH.  It was an all day thing.  Following
someone's advice (I think it was Dave & Helen from Golden, Colorado)
we walked across the river from the RV-Park on the historic Eads
Bridge constructed in the 1874.  It is still a fine looking bridge.  I
am amazed.  This bridge was under construction during the Civil War
years but not finished until later. The walk across the bridge was
awesome.  You really get to see the city and a spectacular view down
the Mississippi River.

It really is a small world.  That point was brought home to us today
when it was pointed out that the "Casino Queen" gambling boat was made
in Pensacola where we are from.  The Casino Queen's RV-Park is where
we are staying.  We remember that boat being constructed by Patti Ship
Yard in Pensacola.  Near the end of construction the people who
ordered the boat had financial problems and the completed boat became
the banks property.  It sat in Pensacola for several years before
these people purchased it.  It was BIG news when it left its mooring
spot up in a small bayou.  That behemoth squeezed through a drawbridge
with just inches on either side.  The pictures of it squeezing through
the old Bayou Chico draw bridge are hanging in Joe Patti's fish market
on the waterfront near downtown Pensacola.  If I am not mistaken (and
I could be) it was a $1,000,000 check from the construction of this
boat that was placed in Mr. Patti's desk drawer and "forgotten".  If
you are from Pensacola you will remember that story.

At the Arch we did everything that costs money.  We still have several
"free" things to do another day.  We went up in the ARCH, we watched
the IMAX film of Lewis & Clark's expedition, we watched a documentary
film about the construction of the ARCH and finally we took a
riverboat cruise up and down the Mississippi River.  We also spent
several hours in the Museum of Western Expansion housed in the base of
the ARCH.  All of these are "must do" items when visiting St Louis.

Someone could and has written volumes about the ARCH.  I won't do
that; suffice it to say if you are ever in St Louis you have to do the
ARCH.  I think I have seen a documentary on the Discovery Channel
about the construction of the ARCH.  Documentary films about the Lewis
& Clark expedition will probably be played several times on the
History or Discovery Channel this year.  That is why I am not going to
spend any more time describing these things.

The walk back across the Eads Bridge seemed to be much farther than
the walk over.  That phenomenon might have been because it was at the
end of a long day.
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Lon VanOstran - 25 Jul 2004 02:27 GMT
>Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
>hookup/50amps & cable no water but central dump.

Huh?
We stayed in the cheap sites and had full hook-ups.

Lon
Mike Hendrix - 25 Jul 2004 06:07 GMT
>>Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>>Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
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>
>Lon
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We must not be as good looking or something.  We are in site 128.  It
was the cheapest site they would put our 33' with a car.  The side
with pull thru's was more expensive.  We are on the North side 2nd
row.  .......  Pray tell where the "cheaper" sites are/were we asked
for the cheapest with 50-amps.  

There is NO way we could have stayed here without 50-amps, it was hot
as blue blazes the first of the week but a cold front came thru
yesterday and things cooled off.

mike
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Mike Hendrix
Pensacola
http://travellogs.us/
Lon VanOstran - 25 Jul 2004 12:13 GMT
>>>Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>>>Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
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>mike
>--

I don't recall the site number, but we paid $72.75 for 3 nights (according to
our budget log), and were in the first row north of the building, and slightly
east of the building.

I still don't understand not being able to run air on 30 amps. We can run both
front and rear air and the computer says we are using 14 amps if everything
else is off. In 5 years of using this MH, 2 of them FTing, we have popped a
breaker exactly once. I suspect that one was a bad breaker.

Lon
Dapper Dave - 25 Jul 2004 19:36 GMT
>rvnft@wmconnect.com (Lon VanOstran) wrote:

>I still don't understand not being able to run air on 30 amps. We can run both
>front and rear air and the computer says we are using 14 amps if everything
>else is off. In 5 years of using this MH, 2 of them FTing, we have popped a
>breaker exactly once. I suspect that one was a bad breaker.
>
>Lon

Not all air conditioners are the same. In our previous motor home, we
could easily run both A/Cs on 30 amps, as long as we didn't try to start
them at the same time. With our current MH, we can *sometimes* get both
running if I shut down everything and switch the fridge to propane
before starting the second one. Each one draws 10-11 amps  when running,
but adding the startup load to one that's already running is usually too
much.
Mike Hendrix - 30 Jul 2004 21:20 GMT
>>>>Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>>>>Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
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>
>Lon
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Lon, if you paid $72.75 for 3 nights you paid 24.25 which is .25-cents
per night more than we did.  I thought you paid a lot less than we
did.  As I recall you also got the phone which was $5 the first night
and $3 per-night thereafter.  If that is the case then to get what you
paid per night for your site it would be 72.75 less 11.00 for the
phone or $61.75--------20.58 per-night.

Were the 30-amp sites cheaper than the 50-amp sites......... from the
above it appears they were.

To answer you question about running 2 air conditioners on 30-amps.
We can do it.  Sometimes we trip the breaker but like you say it is
probably a weak breaker.  When 50-amps is available we usually get the
50-amps.  However, we stay in a lot of state parks and most of them
only have 30-amps.  We usually try to get a shady spot and run one of
the AC's on HIGH.

In south Florida this winter we had to spend 3-weeks of our 2-month
bumming around down there in "over-flow" sites with only 15-amp
circuits and we did fine.  However, we did not need air conditioning
or a heater.

One last thing.  We visited the small historic town of Cahokia about
8-miles south of the Casino Queen and the NICE RV-Park there was
costing $29 per-night for 50-amps.  Less for 30-amps.  Point being the
little town of Cahokia was more expensive than the Casino Queen.  If
you were inclined to take your automobile into St. Louis you could
probably be across the bridge quicker from Cahokia than from Casino
Queen.  

mike
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Mike Hendrix
Pensacola
http://travellogs.us/
Lon VanOstran - 31 Jul 2004 06:32 GMT
>Were the 30-amp sites cheaper than the 50-amp sites......... from the
>above it appears they were.

I give up.

Lon
Ben Hogland - 25 Jul 2004 18:53 GMT
> There is NO way we could have stayed here without 50-amps, it was hot
> as blue blazes the first of the week but a cold front came thru
> yesterday and things cooled off.

If you don't have an adequate power management system, there is an
adaptor that will run two air conditioners from 30 amp and a 20 amp
receptacle..It plugs into your 50 Amp plug then into the 30 amp
receptacle and into an adjacent 20 amp receptacle.  Looke here:
http://tinyurl.com/5c5l5

Ben
PJ - 25 Jul 2004 05:46 GMT
The Arch IS Cool.  We were there for "Fair St. Louis and sat about 150 feet
West of the Arch during the fireworks.  It was very impressive to see them
framed by the Arch.  It's good to find that there is an RV park so close.
My daughter lives in SL, so we stay with here when we are there, but may
need an RV park sometime.

Phil

> Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
> Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
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> Pensacola
> http://travellogs.us/
Kevin - 27 Jul 2004 05:08 GMT
Make sure you get a chance to got by the Zoo and the science center.  They
are both off  HWY 40 and easy to find.
> Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
> Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> Pensacola
> http://travellogs.us/
Maniack - 27 Jul 2004 17:07 GMT
>Make sure you get a chance to got by the Zoo and the science center.  They
>are both off  HWY 40 and easy to find.

Yes, and the Zoo is one of the last to be absolutely FREE for entry.

>> Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>> Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>> Pensacola
>> http://travellogs.us/

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Mike Hendrix - 30 Jul 2004 23:19 GMT
>Make sure you get a chance to got by the Zoo and the science center.  They
>are both off  HWY 40 and easy to find.

Kevin, thanks for the heads up.  We passed up the Zoo because it was
just too hot to enjoy anything that had to be done outside.  

Now the Science Center would have been fun but we opted to skip it
this time.  We are planning to return with a grandson in tow and both
the Zoo and Science Center will be on that agenda.

mike
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>> Tuesday July 20, 2004 Casino Queen RV-Park Bogy Ave, east St Louis,
>> Illinois:          N38° 37.570': W90° 10.120' $24.00 for full
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>> Pensacola
>> http://travellogs.us/

Mike Hendrix
Pensacola
http://travellogs.us/
Kevin - 31 Jul 2004 04:51 GMT
Onther good kids places are the magic house, grants farm, and there is an
Art museum right by the Zoo.  Ther is also a new Mall called The Mills.  It
has glow in the dark put put golf,  go carts, lazer tag, and some nice
outlet stores for the big kids.

> >Make sure you get a chance to got by the Zoo and the science center.  They
> >are both off  HWY 40 and easy to find.
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> Pensacola
> http://travellogs.us/
 
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