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Dodge Sprinter - DIY Conversion

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Jay - 29 Aug 2004 16:45 GMT
Does anyone have some opinions about converting a dodge sprinter van
into a RV? At the very least, I would think it would be simple to add
some fold out couches and drop down bunkbeds so that it could sleep
four. A 12V/110V converter, microwave, little electric fridge, coleman
portable toilet and stove, jug of water and your all set.

Oh, I forget to add the floor safe to put the $40,000 you'd save over
a professionally done RV. :)
Brian Elfert - 29 Aug 2004 17:25 GMT
>Oh, I forget to add the floor safe to put the $40,000 you'd save over
>a professionally done RV. :)

You could get a nice used RV for what a Sprinter and the parts would cost.

If you're doing this to save money, forget it.  If you think you can build
something that looks as professional as a production RV and will last
longer, go for it.

Brian Elfert
shmidy - 29 Aug 2004 19:06 GMT
is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
question??

> Does anyone have some opinions about converting a dodge sprinter van
> into a RV? At the very least, I would think it would be simple to add
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> Oh, I forget to add the floor safe to put the $40,000 you'd save over
> a professionally done RV. :)
claudel - 29 Aug 2004 19:24 GMT
>is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
>question??

Yes, but they are not inexpensive...

This is top 'o the line....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487582032

Claude
Pete Dumbleton - 29 Aug 2004 23:49 GMT
> >is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
> >question??
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> Claude

This summer in EhLand, I saw a German couple's DIY Sprinter (w/factory
4WD) and it looked extremely professional.  Nice thing about starting
with a Sprinter, besides the drivetrain of course, is the standing
headroom.  Un-nice thing is the $28K for an empty van -- I wonder when
and where the delivery companies (UPS, FedEx, ABF, etc.) will start to
be getting rid of their used ones...

William Least Heat Moon made out pretty good with his
less-than-professional, not-even-in-the-line "conversion" of his van
-- he didnt' even have an uptodate map...
claudel - 30 Aug 2004 00:08 GMT
>> >is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
>> >question??
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>less-than-professional, not-even-in-the-line "conversion" of his van
>-- he didnt' even have an uptodate map...

When I'm dreaming, I usully start here....

http://www.dodge.com/bridge/full_vehicle_picker.html?app=priceequip&family=sprinter

I rarely get away under 33K by the time I finish with the various addons.
Given the cost of new vehicles these days I guess it's not that bad.

I also have wondered about the used Fedex/UPS vans, but I bet they'll
have multiple hundreds of thousands of miles by the time they get
cut loose, and I also wonder about the maintenance procedures. I presume
that the delivery companies use good maintenance practices, but one
never knows what corners are cut without any direct experience.

I also wonder if the 4WD ones will be sold in North America...

Claude
Yofuri - 30 Aug 2004 01:13 GMT
FedEx maybe; UPS no.  If you buy a used UPS van, it will be in a bale or
fragments the size of a quarter and smaller after being fed through the
chopper.

Rick

> When I'm dreaming, I usully start here....
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> http://www.dodge.com/bridge/full_vehicle_picker.html?app=priceequip&family=sprinter
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> Claude
Frank Tabor - 30 Aug 2004 02:18 GMT
>>> >is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
>>> >question??
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>I also wonder if the 4WD ones will be sold in North America...

Forget UPS.  By the time they are ready to retire a van or truck it is
junk.  Actually they have a policy of not selling used vehicles.  The
part them out and scrap them when no longer usable.
Signature

Frank Tabor

claudel - 30 Aug 2004 02:27 GMT
>>>> >is anyone doing an rv  (in the us0 based on a sprinter body should be also a
>>>> >question??
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>junk.  Actually they have a policy of not selling used vehicles.  The
>part them out and scrap them when no longer usable.

When I do it, it won't be a beat delivery van. I was merely
speculating along with the OP. With a long enough finance
contract, the Airstream isn't out of reach. Just a bit ritzy.
Some of the other smaller manufacturers are doing nice work
with the Sprinters as well.

This one looks pretty nifty also...

http://www.gulfstreamcoach.com/bvans/index.htm

I would imagine that more of the "B" builders will take
advantage of this platform as well, in time.

Claude
Will Sill - 29 Aug 2004 20:29 GMT
I see where bluespeed@hotmail.com (Jay) contributed:
>Does anyone have some opinions about converting a dodge sprinter van
>into a RV? At the very least, I would think it would be simple to add
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Oh, I forget to add the floor safe to put the $40,000 you'd save over
>a professionally done RV. :)

You think you can save $40 large?  Dream on.  We built our own class B
(on a GMC 3500 extended van) and realistically saved $20,000 - a
proven realistic figure.

Will Sill
BD - 30 Aug 2004 02:46 GMT
> Does anyone have some opinions about converting a dodge sprinter van
> into a RV? At the very least, I would think it would be simple to add
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Oh, I forget to add the floor safe to put the $40,000 you'd save over
> a professionally done RV. :)

The asking price for a basic Sprinter diesel hightop van with the weight and
towing capacity offered seems like a fair price to me. To do what you want
requires just some basic organizing skills, along with some easy carpentry.
The space sure would be nicer than trying to camp out of a conventional van,
and after a couple years or so, you could easily remove what you've
installed, assuming you haven't butchered the Sprinter and sell it for a
good return to a tradesman.

If you intend to copy a fully integrated Class B with cabs, upholstery and
all the built-in systems, you will spend far more in time and money than it
will be worth.  Better to buy what you want already assembled, if that's
your goal. Very few folks can design and construct a homebuilt well, and the
resale will be basically at stripped van price.

BD
Frank Damp - 31 Aug 2004 04:19 GMT
With some experience in vehicle dynamic analysis, it seems to me that
the Sprinter suffers from a basic deficiency. It's too narrow for its
height. Certainly, the one my company tried out as a possible
Dial-a-Ride trtansit vehicle had a serious roll stability problem when
trying to load a 250 lb. patient on a battery-powered scooter. The
off-center load almost lifted the left side wheels off the pavement.
Our usual E450-based rigs (built by Thor) handle that kind of load
relatively well.

Unless Chrysler/Mercedes is willing to offer a wide-track rear end,
allowing for the kind of wider bodied Class B and Class C rigs offered
on US-made chassis, I think their appeal to the RV fraternity is
limited. Also, despite the Mercedes build quality, I'm not sure a 2.5
liter 150 horsepower turbo-diesel has enough grunt for a Class C rig.
Of course, a wide-track dually rear end is a bit pointless on a
front-driver!

Frank Damp
Anacortes, WA
Wädé - 31 Aug 2004 16:13 GMT
> With some experience in vehicle dynamic analysis, it seems to me that
> the Sprinter suffers from a basic deficiency. It's too narrow for its
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> Frank Damp
> Anacortes, WA

I have been thinking the same thing, that the center of gravity is to high
and stability could be compromised, OTOH depending on gearing, and
considering that it is front wheel drive the 150 horse diesel should be more
then adequate unless it was over 15,000 lbs.
Wade
Jay - 31 Aug 2004 13:15 GMT
This is more what I have in mind for a conversion. Dual rear wheels
also. Too bad it's the short wheel base, but it would also get you to
the campground quicker with the lights on :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6472&item=2488
293012&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

 
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