What happened to Eastern Airlines???
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Bert Sweeney - 20 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always flew Eastern, the official airline of WDW. Now that we retired the wife and I want to go see Mickey by ourselves. We want to fly the L-1011 Whisperliner because we know that is the quietest plane in the sky. It can fly automatically without the need for pilots, it takes off and lands by itself. They even got those little closets to hang up your jacket between the seats. I was looking in the phone book for the number to the Eastern airlines reservations to book our tickets but had a hard time getting through. One place I called I got a Cuban who couldn't speak English. When I told him I wanted to book tickets to Orlando on Eastern he started yelling something about "El Grandote" and Celia Cruz. Does anyone know what that is all about?
Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations???
mrtravel - 20 Sep 2005 04:33 GMT > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? 1-888-GO-EASTERN
or is it 1-888-GONE-EASTERN?
Rog' - 20 Sep 2005 04:46 GMT > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? On what planet have you been living for the last 15 years? That airline disappeared into the ether (shut down) in 1991.
But the Pan Am logo has been revived by Boston-Maine Airways. See... http://www.flypanam.com/ =R=
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. - 20 Sep 2005 05:15 GMT >On what planet have you been living for the last 15 years? Please don't feed the troll. Some people think its funny to take advantage of other's willingness to help...
Claim Guy - 21 Sep 2005 23:18 GMT > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? > > On what planet have you been living for the last 15 years? > That airline disappeared into the ether (shut down) in 1991. Rog, Rog, Rog - tsk, tsk, tsk
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. - 20 Sep 2005 05:14 GMT >Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? The TWA question was midly amusing for about 15 seconds. This one is just boring.
TRTRTR - 20 Sep 2005 05:17 GMT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Airlines
http://www.spiderwww.com/eastern.htm
http://www.spiderwww.com/eal.htm
http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Airlines/Eastern.asp
nobody - 20 Sep 2005 08:05 GMT Eastern Airlines was bought by Pan Am. Pan Am was bought by TWA. TWA was absorbed by a giant black hole and has not been since since. They're all gone now, sucked into vaccum, with all their assets transformed into energy and beamed to a distant galaxy in a different dimension.
(It is believed it is the same dimension from which gremlins came to bite/gnaw into the wing of a 707, a story well documented in a TV documetary called "The Twilight Zone". In fact, it was documented twice, once with Captain James T Kirk who appeared on that plane after transiting through a time warp continuum which pulled him from the Enterprise to that aircraft).
Reef Fish - 20 Sep 2005 18:06 GMT > Eastern Airlines was bought by Pan Am. Pan Am was bought by TWA. TWA was > absorbed by a giant black hole and has not been since since. They're all > gone now, sucked into vaccum, with all their assets transformed into > energy and beamed to a distant galaxy in a different dimension. With one exception.
The name of the Frequent Flyer Program used by Eastern, OnePass, survived the Black Hole and had been adopted by CO.
This link seems to point to the Eastern/CO heritage in OnePass: http://www.corporatecampaign.org/twaeast.htm
*> TWU Local 553 vs. Eastern Airlines/ Frank Lorenzo: 1989
I used to be an Eastern FF member. The present CO OnePass FF Program did not start until 1999 (I've been a Platinum member ever since), and my CURRENT Platinum Elite card has "83" for "member since".
Thus, it's impossible for me to be a OnePass member in CO's FF Program BEFORE that Program began. :-)
I remember Eastern Airlines well, especially the 10,000 share of its stocks I owned shortly before it went belly up. :-) I've owned NO airline stocks, in any airline, since, which was a Good Thing <tm>. :-)
I don't think Eastern suffered as dramatic a fall in its final days as Delta (went from its 43 year low of $2 a share a month ago, to what it's trading now: $0.79).
-- Bob.
zak - 20 Sep 2005 19:12 GMT >> Eastern Airlines was bought by Pan Am. Pan Am was bought by TWA. TWA was >> absorbed by a giant black hole and has not been since since. They're all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >The name of the Frequent Flyer Program used by Eastern, OnePass, >survived the Black Hole and had been adopted by CO. The name of the original Eastern program, started in 1981, was simply Frequent Traveler Bonus Program. One Pass came later. I still have the FTBP coupon booklet from when I joined in 1981. Back then you had to tear off one coupon for each flight and fill in your flight information and turn it in when you checked in for your flight, as there was no web booking or online check-in back then. :)
You could use your miles for awards on Eastern, Hertz, General, Marriott, British Caledonian, SAS, and TWA. Many people blew their miles on TWA's flight from New York to Bombay with stops in Paris and Cairo. Having had friends who did it and reported on the miserable conditions of the passenger cabin, especially the toilets, by the time they got to Cairo, I decided to blow my miles on several trips to London on British Caledonian instead. Much nicer, cleaner planes. And the Caledonian girls were much more pleasant than TWA's surly matrons.
Reef Fish - 20 Sep 2005 19:46 GMT > >> Eastern Airlines was bought by Pan Am. Pan Am was bought by TWA. TWA was > >> absorbed by a giant black hole and has not been since since. They're all [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > And the Caledonian girls were much more pleasant than TWA's surly > matrons. Thanks for filling in the incredibly detailed info!
I wasn't really a "Frequent Flyer" in any sense of the word, but I do remember the One Pass originated there.
"online check-in"? LOL!
The internet "web" thing had such an EXPLOSIVE growth (bigger than teh Big Bang <g>) that today there's hardly ANYTHING you couldn't do on-line or find out the info about from internet searches.
It all happened from about virtually <pun intended> ZERO to MUCHO in a couple of years, in the late 1990s.
I've been actively on the "online" scene since I co-authored two entire BOOKS (with my co-author in Chicago while I was 800 miles away). :-)
The books have long been obsolete, because one was a Computer Manual for a system I wrote, and the system was purchased by SPSS, and shelved (so that it would not compute against the on-line system SPSS was beginning to develop), in the late 1970s. :-) The other was a textbook on Statistics, using that system, that had been used by many major universities. So, they were obsolete by the EARLY 1980s. I was surprised (via web browsing) to find that they ARE still on sale, in Amazon.com, with individual full-page ad for each.
McGraw Hill (1980) ISBN 007037905X was "available from $24.99". McGraw Hill (1982) ISBN 0070379068 was "available from $105.79"
Take it from the co-author. They are "worth" about the price of one share of Delta (DAL) which I got on-line a minute ago, selling at $0.78. :)
On-line information and computing have gone a LONG WAY!
-- Bob.
DJ - 20 Sep 2005 05:51 GMT If you had wings... had wings... had wings...
You DO have wings. You CAN do all these things. Eastern, we'll be your wings.
> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? Doug Weller - 24 Sep 2005 16:05 GMT >If you had wings... had wings... had wings... > >You DO have wings. You CAN do all these things. Eastern, we'll be your >wings. When I was a teenager in Miami, in the 1950s, I knew quite a few pilots at the local yacht club - where I learned the slogan "If your soul is ready, fly with Eddy!"
Doug
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Charles Newman - 20 Sep 2005 08:48 GMT > The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Looks like you got fooled by one of the "virtual airlines" for Flight Simulator. A lot of the Virtual Airlines have such real looking Websites that a lot of people contact them thinking they are a real world airline. Eastern is only a virtual airline in the Flight Simulator world. It has ONLY existed as a VA in flight simulator. A lot of people do get fooled. Several virtual airlines, including Polar Air, Trans International (formerly Jetstar VA), and several others are often contacted by people thinking they are a real world airline, trying to purchase tickets.
Blake S - 20 Sep 2005 17:30 GMT >> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the >> kids [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > people thinking they are a real world airline, > trying to purchase tickets. Except that Polar Air is real. Who's fooling who?
Charles Newman - 20 Sep 2005 18:38 GMT > >> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the > >> kids [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Except that Polar Air is real. Who's fooling who? Check out http://www.polarairways.com, and take a closer look, you will see that it is a virtual airline that only exists in the Flight Simulator world
Blake S - 20 Sep 2005 19:56 GMT >> >> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the >> >> kids [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > a closer look, you will see that it is a virtual airline > that only exists in the Flight Simulator world Well, since I don't rely on a video game as the end-all truth, there is indeed and Polar Air Cargo that has a fairly large fleet. I've seen them many times at airports throughout Asia.
Here's a photo of one of the "real" Polar Air Cargo planes
http://www.airlinerphotos.de/PolarAirCargo_B747-46NF_SCD__N451PA_1259_5046.jpg
Their web site can be found at:
http://www.polaraircargo.com/
As I said, I don't own the video game that you are talking about, so I can't say if this is the same Polar Air or not.
JRDelirio (Jose Diaz) - 21 Sep 2005 01:07 GMT OK, so Sweeney's schtick is claiming to seek to book passage in long-defunct (or long-since-merged) airlines, and Newman's schtick is to claim these never existed and are only virtual fictions.
Can't wait for the exact repeat of the game for Branniff, Republic, Piedmont, Laker, PSA, TransCaribbean, CP, British Caledonian, Trump Shuttle, SouthEast, etc.
>>> >> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the >>> >> kids >>> >> many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We >>> > always >>> >> flew Eastern, the official airline of WDW. ...
>>> > Eastern is only a virtual airline in the Flight >>> > Simulator world. It has ONLY existed as a >>> > VA in flight simulator. >>>
>>> Except that Polar Air is real. Who's fooling who? ! krp - 20 Sep 2005 13:30 GMT > The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? You are just a TAD late. Eastern airlines went out of Business over a decade ago. Eastern is gone and Celia Cruz is DEAD too.
Pete - 20 Sep 2005 15:47 GMT > The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? Eastern Airlines is run by a bastard named Frank Lorenzo, Bert.
Celia Cruz is the former president of Cuba. Her husband, Pedro Knight, was a former African slave. He used to run Eastern Airlines before the revolution. His nickname was El Grandote, which means The Really Big One. It was a reference to the size of his manhood. You know what say about African Americans.
When the revolution started Celia and Pedro got all Eastern planes they could out of Havana. They say Celia was a great pilot, and the US used her several times to try to bring down the Castro government. She flew many missions across the Florida Straight, flying low to avoid the radar, to smuggle arms into Cuba.
President Reagan honored them with the Presidential Medal of Freedom back in the 80's.
They live in Key West and are still flying missions to Cuba.
zak - 20 Sep 2005 19:20 GMT >> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids >> many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >They live in Key West and are still flying missions to Cuba. Celia Cruz used to do TV commercials for Eastern way back when. There was a whole salsa band playing in first class with Celia singing.
Too bad she was never on any of my flights.
disneyfan.nyc - 21 Sep 2005 04:20 GMT You must have a lot of time on your hands to write something so agitating and not to mention racially offensive.
> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? Dave - 21 Sep 2005 05:01 GMT >You must have a lot of time on your hands to write something so >agitating and not to mention racially offensive. "agitating"? You think his post was "agitating"???
ROFL....this must be your first day on usenet.
And if you find it "racially offensive", you must really be overdosing on the political correctness pills. I suggest you stop taking them at once and give yourself a warm soap enema instead. If that still doesn't alleviate your acute anal retention, schedule yourself for seven colonic treatments.
Zac in Indy - 21 Sep 2005 17:00 GMT >> You must have a lot of time on your hands to write something so >> agitating and not to mention racially offensive. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > doesn't alleviate your acute anal retention, schedule yourself for > seven colonic treatments. I agree, the OP was simply stating what happened... I don't see how he/she could wash it down to be more PC without being ludicrous...
...but considering this is being cross-posted to many groups, including soc.culture.cuba... that might seem offensive.
 Signature Z a c i n I n d y
GotAnyHotCoffee? - 04 Oct 2005 12:49 GMT Eastern Airlines went Bankrupt and ceased operations in 1991 their routes ,and the motto "official airline of walt disney world" was bought up by US Airways
US Airways many years ago was known as Allegheney Airlines,then US Air,then US Airways
krp ! - 04 Oct 2005 13:53 GMT > Eastern Airlines went Bankrupt and ceased operations in 1991 > their routes ,and the motto "official airline of walt disney world" was > bought up by US Airways > > US Airways many years ago was known as Allegheney Airlines,then US > Air,then US Airways AND has been in bankruptcy TWICE.......................................
Robert J Carpenter - 04 Oct 2005 15:01 GMT > US Airways many years ago was known as Allegheney Airlines,then US > Air,then US Airways And Pennsylvania Central Airlines before any of this.
Robert Browne - 04 Oct 2005 19:56 GMT Pennsylvania Central (PCA) turned into Capital Airlines. Bob
>> US Airways many years ago was known as Allegheney Airlines,then US >> Air,then US Airways > > And Pennsylvania Central Airlines before any of this. james - 04 Oct 2005 15:27 GMT anyone seen the simpsons where they go to Epcot and everything is still signed and sponsored by Eastern Airlines
Lisa's quote is "It's what Disney's idea of 1986 would be in 1968" or something like that.
David Wells - 19 Oct 2005 15:31 GMT Eastern is now Air Florida you can fly a Concorde jet directly to the WDW private airstrip. just call 1-800-fly-free
> The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? bernie.mackie@verizon.net - 17 Dec 2005 03:21 GMT >The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids >many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
KRP - 17 Dec 2005 15:11 GMT <> <bertnlantanow@webbtv.net> wrote:
>>The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids >>many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>I want to go see Mickey by ourselves. We want to fly the L-1011 >>Whisperliner because we know that is the quietest plane in the sky. We sold it to Cuba!!
JohnT - 17 Dec 2005 15:27 GMT > <> <bertnlantanow@webbtv.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We sold it to Cuba!! Not at all. It is now called Eastern Airways and, instead of flying TriStars, it uses Saab200 and JS32 and JS41 which make a noise like a bagful of hammers. For details of the romantic destinations to which you may fly, go to http://www.easternairways.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/ and bring plenty of money with you.
JohnT
Robert Cohen - 17 Dec 2005 17:59 GMT The rise 'n fall of Eastern.
It started as a crop dusting business on the Louisiana--Mississippi alluvial plane.
Captain Orville Eddie Redenbacher financed the venture by promiscuously/proliferately distributing bags of popcorn instead of pretzels & peanuts.
David Rockefeller supplied the hugemoungous sodium 'n fake butter loan--the state of the art & envy of the corny industry.
One day some stewardi (plural of attendant) got pissed about the lack of eligible animal husbandy, and walked over to the Southern-Braniff- Capital-National personnel office.
Plus the luggage tossers forgot to leave the baggage out to rot in a terrible rainstorm, and the corn company was sued in a de-classe action by Samsonite.
The end came when slanderous DON'T EAT ON EASTERN signs were erected by the Dobbs Toddle House Sky Chef Corporation circa 1954.
AES - 17 Dec 2005 21:42 GMT > For details of the romantic destinations to which > you may fly, go to > http://www.easternairways.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/ and > bring plenty of money with you. Don't know anything about the airline itself (not in my region of the globe, never heard of it before).
But, the animated route map on the opening page above is *really* nice -- would be great if other airlines were to steal the idea.
KRP - 18 Dec 2005 14:42 GMT >>>>The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the >>>>kids [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > bagful of hammers. For details of the romantic destinations to which > you may fly, go to Are those the jets that operate on cool whip?
Cool Whip - 18 Dec 2005 15:19 GMT > "JohnT" <johnhillriseSPAMNOT@gmail.com> wrote in message
> Are those the jets that operate on cool whip? Yup. That's the reason for the white trails in the sky.
KRP - 19 Dec 2005 14:10 GMT >> "JohnT" <johnhillriseSPAMNOT@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> Are those the jets that operate on cool whip? > > Yup. That's the reason for the white trails in the sky. I didn't know that!
Cyrus Afzali - 20 Dec 2005 19:12 GMT >> <> <bertnlantanow@webbtv.net> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >JohnT Eastern Airways has no connection whatsoever to the former Eastern Airlines.
JohnT - 20 Dec 2005 22:35 GMT >>> <> <bertnlantanow@webbtv.net> wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Eastern Airways has no connection whatsoever to the former Eastern > Airlines. Did you work that out by yourself, or did you get help?
JohnT
Cyrus Afzali - 29 Dec 2005 20:49 GMT >>>> <> <bertnlantanow@webbtv.net> wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >JohnT Did you just become an a.s or have you always been one? Unlike you, people can actually decipher what I write and it's intelligible. I can't make heads or tales out of what you're saying.
It's not clear from me that the above was meant to be a joke or something other than the truth. If the person is claiming Eastern Airways has a connection to the deceased airline of a similar name, they're wrong.
KRP - 30 Dec 2005 13:48 GMT They sold it. It is now known as Aeroflot!
pluto - 17 Dec 2005 18:26 GMT >>The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took >>the kids [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >>Anyone know the number to Eastern reservations??? Eastern Airlines was brought down by one of its own employees. His name was Frank Lorenzo, a gay flight attendant. He travelled all over the world having gay unprotected sex with other men during layovers in cities like Berlin, Copenhagen, Paris, Rio, etc. He caught AIDS in the early 80's and infected almost all the male employees at Eastern. A few of these men were bisexual and gave it to the women at the company they were having sex with. In the end, nearly all the employees at Eastern had it and the Department of Health had to step in and shut down the company. Lorenzo became known as Patient Zero and died shortly after.
Cool Whip - 17 Dec 2005 22:18 GMT > Eastern Airlines was brought down by one of its own employees. His > name was Frank Lorenzo, a gay flight attendant. He travelled all over [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > in and shut down the company. Lorenzo became known as Patient Zero > and died shortly after. Where did you get *that* from?? Frank Lorenzo *owned* Eastern Airlines, and drove it into the ground.
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Dictionary/lorenzo/DI131.htm
Flavio Silva - 17 Dec 2005 22:18 GMT Hi,
What does troll mean, pls?
Flavio
> >The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids > >many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! mrtravel@sbcglobal.net - 18 Dec 2005 08:02 GMT >>The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids >>many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! Yeah, and it was posted 3 months ago. You are a bit late.
Nomen Nescio - 18 Dec 2005 20:20 GMT Unemployed troll/netkook/pedophile/psychopath Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled:
>>>The wife and I want to go down to Disney World in December. Took the kids >>>many times when they were growing up and had a lot of good times. We always [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Yeah, and it was posted 3 months ago. You are a bit late. Unlike you, a 47 year old unemployed psycho netkook high on crack cocaine who spends all night masturbating and trolling usenet. Loser.
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