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jccpro@gmail.com - 28 Sep 2005 14:19 GMT
Hi guys,

I will attend a conference at Orlando from London. After that, I have
one week free. I'd like to visit Washington DC, New York, etc. Any
suggestions for the tour?
Juliana L Holm - 28 Sep 2005 14:24 GMT
> Hi guys,

> I will attend a conference at Orlando from London. After that, I have
> one week free. I'd like to visit Washington DC, New York, etc. Any
> suggestions for the tour?

I'd skip the etc. and just do Washington DC, New York, or even just one of
them.  

There are a lot of budget airlines featuring inexpensive flights from Florida.
Check the Orlando airport to Dulles, National or even BWI on Southwest, JetBlue
(though they may not go to Orlando) Independance Air, Air Tran, etc.  Then
spend 3-4 days in Washington, and take Amtrak or the Bus to New York (much less
hassle than the plane).

If you can, get an open jaw flight so you can get home from New York.  If that
is not an option, then look into the same carriers you took north from Orlando
to return.

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Mark Brader - 29 Sep 2005 03:25 GMT
> > I will attend a conference at Orlando from London. After that, I have
> > one week free. I'd like to visit Washington DC, New York, etc. Any
> > suggestions for the tour?

If you want suggestions, you have to tell people what sort of things
you like to do.

> I'd skip the etc. and just do Washington DC, New York, or even just one of
> them.  

Uh-huh.

> If you can, get an open jaw flight so you can get home from New York.

Better yet, try to get London - Orlando - New York - London all on one
ticket; you'd have to use a US airline.  It would probably be structured
as a London-Orlando round trip with a stopover in New York, and the cost
might be very little different from a plain London-Orlando return --
*if* the latter is on the same fare basis, but it might not be.  You
might phone some airlines and get some fare quotes.

I don't think you could do London - Orlando - Washington - New York -
London that way, but it wouldn't hurt to ask.  If you want to visit
both Washington and New York and can't do that, the train is usually
the most convenient way between the cities, but flying may be easier
once you're already at an airport -- *if* that it's the *same* airport.
Bus (coach to you) is usually cheapest but definitely slower.  I have no
information about current fares between the two cities by different modes.

A better newsgroup to discuss the air travel aspects would be rec.travel.air.
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Shawn Hirn - 28 Sep 2005 15:32 GMT
> Hi guys,
>
> I will attend a conference at Orlando from London. After that, I have
> one week free. I'd like to visit Washington DC, New York, etc. Any
> suggestions for the tour?

Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?
You could easily spend a few days in any city you mentioned and have a
nice time visiting the features that distinguish that city.

You can also do web searching to get ideas of what to see and do in an
area. For example, if you google for "Philadelphia vacation" or
something like that, you'll find lots of information.
jccpro@gmail.com - 28 Sep 2005 16:33 GMT
> Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
> enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?

Sorry, I did not mean I need a tour guide. What I really want is to buy
a convenient tour package which includes flights and hotels. Guess a
package will be cheaper.
Keith W - 28 Sep 2005 17:57 GMT
>> Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
>> enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?
>
> Sorry, I did not mean I need a tour guide. What I really want is to buy
> a convenient tour package which includes flights and hotels. Guess a
> package will be cheaper.

Probably not in fact and you'll lose the freedom to go where you want
when you want.

As others have suggested buy an open jaw ticket and fly into
Orlando and home from JFK

One week isnt really enough time to more than spend a few days
in each city so just book a couple of internal flights or use Amtrak
between DC and NYC.

Air Tran have flights from Orlando to Washington from $114
and from Washington to New York  you can take the train.

Look on Expedia.co.uk for hotel deals in NYC and in DC
you could do worse than the Hotel Harrington. Its old and
a little shabby but is cheap, clean and right in the centre.

Keith
oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com - 29 Sep 2005 13:44 GMT
> > Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
> > enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?
>
> Sorry, I did not mean I need a tour guide. What I really want is to buy
> a convenient tour package which includes flights and hotels. Guess a
> package will be cheaper.

  I have never found that to be true.  Maybe there is a major
difference between tour packages coming here, and the ones
I can get here, or in going to Europe, but whenever I think
I'm going some place where a package should be cheaper, I'm
always able to piece one together myself cheaper.  It's
mostly because the packages are attempting to "up sell"
me to a better hotel than I'd otherwise pick, or maybe
throw in rental cars or tickets to some tourist attraction.

  As for your general idea of stopping somewhere on
the way back from Orlando, as you've seen, it is quite
easy, if you only stop in one of the cities.  Doing 2
might make it a bit more difficult.  Although I love DC
and think it's a better place for Europeans to go, I'm
also aware that most folks find NYC far more entertaining,
especially for a whole week.

  Your decision may be made as much by what flights you
can get, and I suspect you'll get more options
through NYC-JFK than you will through DC.  But if you
do decide to go to DC, might I suggest that besides the
city itself, you consider spending some time, even in
only for the day, in Gettysburg and Annapolis.  It
will require a rental car to do it reasonably, although
you probably can find a bus service if you desire.
Frank F. Matthews - 29 Sep 2005 17:53 GMT
>>>Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
>>>enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?
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> will require a rental car to do it reasonably, although
> you probably can find a bus service if you desire.

That is a good point.  If the package provides exactly the services that
you want it will almost certainly be cheaper.  However, if it provides
services which you do not want it can easily become more expensive.

You simply have to think about what it is that you want.  For example in
the situation that you cited.  I might go with a package with an
upscaled hotel if it wasn't much more and I might spend some time
actually in the hotel.  Then again I might not.  That decision could
easily drive the choice.
oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com - 29 Sep 2005 18:47 GMT
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> >>Sorry, I did not mean I need a tour guide. What I really want is to buy
> >>a convenient tour package which includes flights and hotels. Guess a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > me to a better hotel than I'd otherwise pick, or maybe
> > throw in rental cars or tickets to some tourist attraction.
[snip]

> That is a good point.  If the package provides exactly the services that
> you want it will almost certainly be cheaper.  However, if it provides
> services which you do not want it can easily become more expensive.

  Virtually no business will particularly discount their lowest
cost product.  The one exception is the "loss leader" but that
implies that other things are being purchased at a profit.
When you book a hotel, air fare, and rental car, all at the
lowest cost product, no one is going to particularly discount
that for you.  If you are willing to pay a higher cost for
one of the components, they might be willing to discount
other aspects.

> You simply have to think about what it is that you want.  For example in
> the situation that you cited.  I might go with a package with an
> upscaled hotel if it wasn't much more and I might spend some time
> actually in the hotel.  Then again I might not.  That decision could
> easily drive the choice.

 It will drive the choice.  If you are going to buy an unusually
large amount of something, you can usually get some discounting
some how, either actual discounts or other forms of compensation
(tickets, dinners, drinks, etc).  If you are going to "nickle
and dime" every purchase, don't expect any discounts in any form.
Frank F. Matthews - 29 Sep 2005 23:18 GMT
> [snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> (tickets, dinners, drinks, etc).  If you are going to "nickle
> and dime" every purchase, don't expect any discounts in any form.

You misunderstand.  I'm very not driven by discounts.  If the thing
being discounted is not something that interests me then a significant
discount means nothing.  Where it can come into play is where there is
interest at one price but not at a higher one.  The availability of a
discount may then drive the decision.

For the OP he will have to consider if the package offers more for the
price than the probably smaller set of items he wants for their price.
Shawn Hirn - 29 Sep 2005 19:12 GMT
> > Why not just take a flight to the city of your choice and go out and
> > enjoy what they city has to offer its visitors? Why do you need a tour?
>
> Sorry, I did not mean I need a tour guide. What I really want is to buy
> a convenient tour package which includes flights and hotels. Guess a
> package will be cheaper.

You will likely do better by booking the hotel and air fare on your own.
 
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