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Manzoorul Hassan - 26 Sep 2005 16:43 GMT I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / requirements are:
* 2 kids (3+ and 6+) * Mountain (but not show / skiing) * Not very touristy * Weather Moderate (we're looking at mid to late Oct) - Daytime temp of 65+ would definitely be desirable
I have thought of somewhere in Oregon or Sedona AZ but haven't really narrowed down. Would love to hear some more suggestions.
TIA.
- manzoor
Juliana L Holm - 26 Sep 2005 16:46 GMT > I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / > requirements are:
> * 2 kids (3+ and 6+) > * Mountain (but not show / skiing) > * Not very touristy > * Weather Moderate (we're looking at mid to late Oct) - Daytime temp > of 65+ would definitely be desirable
> I have thought of somewhere in Oregon or Sedona AZ but haven't really > narrowed down. Would love to hear some more suggestions. Sedona's pretty touristy, but nearby Jerome might be nice. In the east, the Great Smoky Mountain area might be nice. I believe the temps will be there. Great Smokey is a really popular park, but not really too touristy.
If you head toward the Pisgah National Forest/Sapphire Valley/Asheville area, you'll find it not very touristy. Go to Tennesee or nearby Cherokee NC and you'll find it pretty touristy.
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B Vaughan - 26 Sep 2005 17:24 GMT >> I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / >> requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >the Great Smoky Mountain area might be nice. I believe the temps will be >there. Great Smokey is a really popular park, but not really too touristy. Great Smoky Mountain national park itself is not very touristy, that is, inside the park. The towns clustered around the various entrances into the park are tourist hell. I've never seen such traffic and confusion, nor such a lot of tacky souvenir shops, often with fake Indians standing outside.
I once camped in the park, and it was lovely and peaceful, but the sites were rather primitive, i.e., no hot water and no showers anywhere inside the park. All water had to be hauled to the tent sites from central spigots. There were toilets at the more "developed" camping areas, and sinks with cold water only. I'm not sure I would want to do it with a 3-year-old and a 6-year-old.
Also, the weather in October is rather unpredictable, at least on the east coast. It could be lovely and warm, or it could be cold or rainy.
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Craig - 26 Sep 2005 17:46 GMT "Manzoorul Hassan" <manzoorul.hassan@gmail.com> wrote...
>I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / > requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - manzoor Since Northern AZ is on your current list, I'd agree with another who suggested funky Jerome rather than pricey Sedona. The largest selection of lodging choices from extreme economy to quite pricey would be Flagstaff just up the hill from Sedona. Sedona's only a 45-minute drive from Flag and Flag is closer to other options including the Navajo and Hopi nations, Lake Powell and nearby Antelope Canyon(s), the Grand Canyon (not too bad touristy-wise at this time especially if you avoid it on Friday through Sunday). Do your kids like trains? I'd strongly suggest the Verde Canyon RR in Clarkdale if so. In any event, there are many National Park Service sites worth checking out in the area. If you plan to visit more than 2-3, the annual all-parks National Park Pass ($50 for the whole family for the whole USA) is better than paying entry fees park by park (e.g., $20 for Grand Canyon).
Craig (in Flagstaff)
PS--in N AZ, the weather can change quickly. You could easily find your desired temps here--or it could be a good bit colder. In any event, the most likely weather for a stay in October is a dry one with little chance of rain.
Todd Michel McComb - 26 Sep 2005 17:57 GMT >PS--in N AZ, the weather can change quickly. You could easily find >your desired temps here--or it could be a good bit colder. The whole combination of Mountains/October/65 temps sounds awfully dicey to me. You _might_ get it, but I don't think your odds are real great.
Juliana L Holm - 26 Sep 2005 18:07 GMT >>PS--in N AZ, the weather can change quickly. You could easily find >>your desired temps here--or it could be a good bit colder.
> The whole combination of Mountains/October/65 temps sounds awfully > dicey to me. You _might_ get it, but I don't think your odds are > real great. There is a lovely range of mountains in the center of the island of Puerto Rico which are not touristy with some very interesting things to see, like ancient Taino heiroglyphs, caves, and such. And you can also do beaches in the same trip if you like.
Temps definitely above 65. You may have to worry about hurricanes. . . .
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Shawn Hirn - 27 Sep 2005 00:48 GMT > I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / > requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have thought of somewhere in Oregon or Sedona AZ but haven't really > narrowed down. Would love to hear some more suggestions. What time of year are you interested in taking your vacation?
?? - 27 Sep 2005 00:50 GMT Manzoorul Hassan wrote:
>I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / >requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Big Bend National Park, TX http://www.nps.gov/bibe/
Little Switzerland, NC http://www.biglynnlodge.com May be tough to get a room around here at this time of year due to a lot of "leaf peepers" chasing the colors.
Clayton, GA http://www.gamountains.com/content/
Todd Michel McComb - 27 Sep 2005 01:22 GMT >Big Bend National Park, TX Oh, fabulous idea. This should fit all the OP's criteria.
?? - 29 Sep 2005 18:21 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I presume you're being sarcastic? And why do you strip out the OP's criteria from your "reply"? The OP's criteria, and my response to same, in red.
* 2 kids (3+ and 6+) The following web site describes what there is for kids to do in Big Bend. http://www.ehow.com/how_18102_enjoy-big-bend.html Criterion fulfilled, if your kids are at all interested in nature. (Contrary to what the web site says about danger in letting kids play in the water because of "holes" -- one can go to Lajitas crossing, where the water is only a few inches deep, and let the kids "dabble".) And where else can you fairly readily see such exotica as javelinas and roadrunners? [If they're into arcades, amusement parks,etc. -- this isn't for them. If they're into video games, you can leave them in the room with the TV.]
* Mountain (but not show / skiing) The Chisos Mountains are the only mountain range in the U.S. that is entirely within a National Park. The Chisos Mountain Lodge is in the Basin in the park. Criterion fulfilled.
* Not very touristy When you consider that more people visit Yosemite in one day than visit Big Bend in an entire year......criterion fulfilled.
* Weather Moderate (we're looking at mid to late Oct) - Daytime temp of 65+ would definitely be desirable According to Wunderground, the average daytime high at Alpine (nearest weather station to Big Bend) for October 2004 and October 2003 was 75 degrees. The average daily mean was 65 degree. Criterion fulfilled.
Todd Michel McComb - 29 Sep 2005 18:36 GMT >I presume you're being sarcastic? Why in the world would you think that? I thought your idea was excellent, and wanted the OP to see as much. Sorry, but you've got some issues.
?? - 30 Sep 2005 04:05 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Shoot....I've even got back issues! ;-)
Craig - 30 Sep 2005 15:07 GMT "Todd Michel McComb" <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote...
>>I presume you're being sarcastic? > > Why in the world would you think that? I thought your idea was > excellent, and wanted the OP to see as much. Sorry, but you've got > some issues. Todd,
I've gotta say that when I first read your response, I assumed is was a sarcastic one, then realized you could be serious and consequently I had no idea of what to make of your response. It all depends on the tone of voice we assume you would use when saying "Oh, fabulous idea". So telling others that "they have some issues" when we don't understand you is going a bit too far, at least for me.
Craig
Todd Michel McComb - 30 Sep 2005 15:47 GMT >I've gotta say that when I first read your response, I assumed is >was a sarcastic one, Sorry, but I just think this is sad. There was absolutely nothing about the response, and absolutely nothing about anything I've ever said here, which would suggest that I was being sarcastic. There was no cue of that sort. Yeah, you can say "Oh, but we *could* read it as sarcastic." Well, OK, but I have no idea why you would want to do that. Anyway, enough of this. I guess now we understand each other.
alohacyberian - 27 Sep 2005 07:53 GMT >I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / > requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have thought of somewhere in Oregon or Sedona AZ but haven't really > narrowed down. Would love to hear some more suggestions. Because of your temperature constraints, you might consider Hawaii, either Maui or the Big Island of Hawaii, since there are elevations over 10,000 feet on Maui and over 13,000 feet on the Big Island. For more information, you are invited to visit my Big Island webpage at: ~ http://home.att.net/~keith.martin/page9B.html and my Maui webpage at: ~ http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vMaui.html - where you'll find no pop-ups, no advertising, no cookies and nothing for sale. Bon voyage. KM
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js - 27 Sep 2005 15:36 GMT Big Bear in the San Bernadino Mountains in Southern California. Daytime highs in the 60's and night time lows in the 40's. Great for the kids, lots to do, and easy on the wallet that time of year. One note of caution, though, a number of school systems have fall break in mid to late October so plan ahead.
js
BMC - 28 Sep 2005 05:41 GMT How about Jim Thorpe, PA? I just got back from mountainbiking the trails in Lehigh Valley. I loved it. I'm hoping to go back in Oct, when it's fall foliage season even though it might be very crowded then.
There's defnitely plenty to do with a family (i.e., biking, rafting, camping, train ride) although your younger one might not enjoy it as much as everyone else.
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> I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / > requirements are: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - manzoor Juliana L Holm - 28 Sep 2005 12:22 GMT > How about Jim Thorpe, PA? I just got back from mountainbiking the trails in > Lehigh Valley. I loved it. I'm hoping to go back in Oct, when it's fall > foliage season even though it might be very crowded then. Great idea. Temps will be lower than this person requests, though.
Julie
> There's defnitely plenty to do with a family (i.e., biking, rafting, > camping, train ride) although your younger one might not enjoy it as much as > everyone else.
> ------------- >> I am looking for some help finding a vacation place. My constraints / [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> - manzoor
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