Hawaii Marriott recommendations
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JAC - 26 Sep 2003 03:06 GMT Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels:
JW Marriott Ihilani Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort
Thank you!
Deirdre Saoirse Moen - 26 Sep 2003 05:08 GMT > Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: > > JW Marriott Ihilani
> Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort You know they're on different islands, right?
Of the two, the Ihilani is the nicer hotel (opinion of coworkers who have stayed at both), but they're both really nice. They're both fairly small (in the 350 room range), which I personally like. Personally, I'd love a visit to either, I suspect, even though my taste runs to significantly smaller and more unusual properties.
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JAC - 26 Sep 2003 14:43 GMT >> Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You know they're on different islands, right? Yes I do know that. But I am just starting to research my trip there so I don't know the differences.
This will be an anniversary trip for us. We don't want tons of people around and aren't really into the night life seen. We do though, enjoy sightseeing and things to do (by car is fine). We will mix that up with just sitting in the sand also.
Given that, any suggestions?
>Of the two, the Ihilani is the nicer hotel (opinion of coworkers who have >stayed at both), but they're both really nice. They're both fairly small >(in the 350 room range), which I personally like. Personally, I'd love a >visit to either, I suspect, even though my taste runs to significantly >smaller and more unusual properties. alohacyberian - 26 Sep 2003 17:02 GMT > This will be an anniversary trip for us. We don't want tons of people > around and aren't really into the night life seen. We do though, > enjoy sightseeing and things to do (by car is fine). We will mix that > up with just sitting in the sand also. Given your criteria, you've made 2 excellent selections. You didn't say how long you are planning to stay, so it's difficult to advise you, but, you may very well want to visit both islands and stay at both hotels. The only other hotels I would recommend for people looking for what you suggested would be Turtle Bay on the North Shore of Oahu as it has superb golf and tennis facilities, Four Seasons Wailea and Grand Wailea which are near the Renaissance Wailea are also very nice. Or for a very remote and off the beaten track hotel, the Hana Maui is ideal for honeymooners and anniversary celebrations, though it isn't as posh as the others mentioned, it isn't near any touristy areas. If you do stay at a hotel in the Wailea area, be sure to take the drive to Hana since you like sightseeing. Two other nice sightseeing trips are the drive from Wailea to Lahaina via Kahului-Wailuku and the north shore and then return to Wailea via the south shore, or vice versa. And the drive up Haleakala is a must see for sight-seers to Maui. And again, you are invited to visit my webpages at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vOahu.html for Oahu and : http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vMaui.html - where you'll find no advertising, no pop-ups, no cookies and nothing for sale. Bon voyage. KM
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brenda - 26 Sep 2003 23:35 GMT > > This will be an anniversary trip for us. We don't want tons of people > > around and aren't really into the night life seen. We do though, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vMaui.html - where you'll find no > advertising, no pop-ups, no cookies and nothing for sale. Bon voyage. KM I tend to disagree on your hotel rec's - the Four Seasons is sterile with a crowded pool area & sometimes snotty staff (gorgeous rooms, tho!) & the Grand Wailea is a zoo with pretty dinky rooms for what you're paying & indifferent service. Although, I love their Spa Grande, among the best in the world! I'm also not a big fan of Turtle Bay & still looks old & run down, even w/ renovations - guess different strokes for...
alohacyberian - 27 Sep 2003 04:32 GMT > > > This will be an anniversary trip for us. We don't want tons of people > > > around and aren't really into the night life seen. We do though, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Bay & still looks old & run down, even w/ renovations - guess > different strokes for... Hmmm, you sound like a travel agent who doesn't get spiffed for those hotels. ;-) KM
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Deirdre Saoirse Moen - 27 Sep 2003 21:19 GMT > > I tend to disagree on your hotel rec's - the Four Seasons is sterile > > with a crowded pool area & sometimes snotty staff (gorgeous rooms, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hmmm, you sound like a travel agent who doesn't get spiffed for those hotels. > ;-) KM Hard to get spiffed for any hotel in that price range actually.
Iirc, both properties limit commissions, but the price is high enough that's rarely an issue.
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brenda - 27 Sep 2003 22:42 GMT > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote in message > news:<FqZcb.153947$0v4.11486980@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>... [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Hmmm, you sound like a travel agent who doesn't get spiffed for those hotels. > ;-) KM I'm not a travel agent & if 'spiffed' means paid commission, I would imagine the Four Seasons & Grand Wailea pay commissions in full as do other major hotels. I'm just a hotel freak - I admit it...
Deirdre Saoirse Moen - 27 Sep 2003 21:20 GMT > I tend to disagree on your hotel rec's - the Four Seasons is sterile > with a crowded pool area & sometimes snotty staff (gorgeous rooms, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bay & still looks old & run down, even w/ renovations - guess > different strokes for... Neither is to my taste. In that category of places, I'd go for the Kea Lani -- nice rooms, all-suite property and less expensive than many. Other one I'd consider would be the Ritz-Carlton in Kapalua -- and I'd visit *either* of them over the Four Seasons or the Grand Wailea.
That said, the Four Seasons has a policy I prefer: they charge once and include most everything. Many other resorts have taken to nickel-and-diming peopld (for parking, cabanas, resort fees, etc.). Grand Wailea's room rates are pretty equivalent to the Four Seasons, but the value is not.
I still like the location of the Turtle Bay though. :)
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brenda - 28 Sep 2003 04:34 GMT > > I tend to disagree on your hotel rec's - the Four Seasons is sterile > > with a crowded pool area & sometimes snotty staff (gorgeous rooms, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I still like the location of the Turtle Bay though. :) Kea Lani is our favorite too - been there 8 times - gorgeous all-suite rooms, views kind & friendly staff, good restaurants & choices (love Caffe Ciao), great grown-up pool, cabanas not crowded together - all in all, a wonderfully designed resort.
Deirdre Saoirse Moen - 27 Sep 2003 21:22 GMT > This will be an anniversary trip for us. We don't want tons of people > around and aren't really into the night life seen. We do though, > enjoy sightseeing and things to do (by car is fine). We will mix that > up with just sitting in the sand also. > > Given that, any suggestions? Maui Prince Hotel. :)
Nice beach, in a quiet area (south of pretty much everything else), but driveable to all the fun stuff that's not on the resort.
It also tends to price a bit better because it IS a bit off the beaten path.
Usual disclaimer: I work for a travel wholesaler, book Hawaii travel for a living, but I don't sell direct to customers, so have no potential stake.
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brenda - 26 Sep 2003 06:12 GMT > Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: > > JW Marriott Ihilani > Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort > > Thank you! Just stayed at the Ihilani & it's gorgeous - only drawback is food (as with any Marriott) & remote location, but beautiful rooms & beach.
The Renaissance is an older property, but in a good location in Wailea - there's more to do from this location in Maui. Have not seen the rooms, but I doubt they're as nice as the Ihilani's. Check out TripAdvisor.com for guests reviews on both.
Deirdre Saoirse Moen - 26 Sep 2003 07:33 GMT > The Renaissance is an older property, but in a good location in Wailea > - there's more to do from this location in Maui. Have not seen the > rooms, but I doubt they're as nice as the Ihilani's. Check out > TripAdvisor.com for guests reviews on both. Yeah, it's definitely in a great location.
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alohacyberian - 26 Sep 2003 06:43 GMT > Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: > > JW Marriott Ihilani > Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort Yes, I strongly favor both! Both are very, very nice. The Marriot Ihilani is far from the madding crowd of Waikiki and isn't in a touristy area. It has superb architecture and I would highly recommend it. The Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort is another very fine venue and is near the other upscale hotels that line Wailea Beach which is just South of Kihei and surrounded by excellent golf courses and is a long way from the crowds and hustle and bustle of Lahaina and Kaanapali. I'm sure you'd be very happy at either or both hotels. For more information about Oahu, you are invited to visit my Oahu webpage at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vOahu.html and for Maui info, my Maui webpage at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/vMaui.html - where you'll find no advertising, no pop-ups, no cookies and nothing for sale. Bon voyage! KM
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brenda - 26 Sep 2003 21:52 GMT > Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: > > JW Marriott Ihilani > Renaissance Wailea Beach Resort > > Thank you! Forgot to mention the one drawback at the Ihilani - there's really no place else to eat but there - there's a few little places (you have to drive) in the Super K Mart shopping center, but other than that... Wailea & Kihei has many more dining options, so you don't feel like a hostage to the hotel's less than wonderful & expensive offerings. We were ok for 4 nights, but it started getting a little tedious after awhile - wouldn't have minded had the food been better. Still, love those rooms! We used Marriott points & instead of the worst rooms in the house, they gave us 2 deluxe oceanfront rooms in a separate & waterfront building of the hotel, as opposed to the tower - we never saw anyone in the halls, yet it was full. I think there's only 16 or 20 rooms in this 3 or 4 story wing.
honu - 27 Sep 2003 03:44 GMT Ihilani's restaurants are extremely pricey; the food at the spa is the best value. You can go next door to the Paradise Cove luau, if you're into that sort of thing. By mainland standards, Haleiwa and Wahiawa are short drives away from Ihilani so you could hit Kua Aina and Jameson's By the Sea in Haleiwa and Molly's Smokehouse in Wahiawa, but none of these are fancy restaurants.
Wailea and adjoining Kihei are, on the other hand, replete with good restaurants.
> > Anyone have any strong feelings on the following two hotels: > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > saw anyone in the halls, yet it was full. I think there's only 16 or > 20 rooms in this 3 or 4 story wing. alohacyberian - 27 Sep 2003 04:32 GMT > Ihilani's restaurants are extremely pricey; the food at the spa is the > best value. You can go next door to the Paradise Cove luau, if you're into > that sort of thing. By mainland standards, Haleiwa and Wahiawa are short > drives away from Ihilani so you could hit Kua Aina and Jameson's By the Sea > in Haleiwa and Molly's Smokehouse in Wahiawa, but none of these are fancy > restaurants. Everyone always suggests Jameson's-by-the-Sea in Haleiwa, but, I've always found the food to be mediocre for the price and it has the atmosphere of a tourist trap. I like Haleiwa Joe's much better. KM
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brenda - 27 Sep 2003 22:45 GMT > Ihilani's restaurants are extremely pricey; the food at the spa is the > best value. You can go next door to the Paradise Cove luau, if you're into [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Wailea and adjoining Kihei are, on the other hand, replete with good > restaurants. The Spa no longer serves food - and the Ihilani Concierge sent us there after showing us the menu - was pretty funny - same hotel & only feet away & they're sending us to a restaurant that doesn't exist anymore!
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