Ski lessons at Lake Tahoe for a 14 year old first time beginner?
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as - 16 Jan 2006 19:59 GMT What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? Do we need to invest in semi-private / private lessons or are group lessons fine?
We are planning to spend 2-3 days (weekdays, not weekends) on the slopes and some of the places being considered are Sierra at Tahoe and Heavenly (expensive?);
No one at our home knows how to ski and we will appreciate any suggestions that you can pass on;
Thank you, AS
Pat - 16 Jan 2006 20:57 GMT I think the water at Tahoe may be a little cold.
Dave Smith - 16 Jan 2006 21:06 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > No one at our home knows how to ski and we will appreciate any > suggestions that you can pass on; I have not been to that ski resort but have been to others. When it comes to prices for ski vacations, the sky is the limit. I certainly don't recommend outfitting the whole family with skis, boots and the works before finding out if it is for you. Let's just say that if you are old enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest people on the hill.
You are looking at some serious costs if you use daily rentals and lift tickets. I have not skied for a couple years and prices vary, but I can tell you that the ski resorts around here charge up to $45 per day for lift tickets. There are morning only, morning and afternoon, afternoon, afternoon and evening or evening only tickets. Night is usually the cheapest, and personally, I always liked night skiing best. Afternoon tends to be the busiest, and you spend a lot more time in line at the lifts. Then there is the cost of ski rental, usually about half as much as the lift ticket, but that varies form place to place.
Your best bet is to look for some sort of combination package. The resorts often have good deals on rentals and lift tickets. It is always much cheaper to get a multi day pass, so long as you get out there and use it. You may pay a premium for a room in the hotel at the base of the mountain, but the savings on rental and lift tickets may make it worth while.
Be advised that skiing is exercise, and is especially demanding on the legs. You will discover some muscles in the back of your legs you never knew that you had before. You may only want to ski a few hours a day, and after 4-5 hours of skiing you will be looking forward to the hot tub back at the hotel.
lal_truckee - 16 Jan 2006 22:38 GMT > ...Let's just say that if you are old > enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest > people on the hill. I call Non sequitur.
Dave Smith - 16 Jan 2006 23:19 GMT > > ...Let's just say that if you are old > > enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest > > people on the hill. > > I call Non sequitur. Not entirely, but maybe I should have explained. It is a little more physically demanding that some people realize. There is more to it than just standing on a pair of skis and letting gravity do the work. It takes a lot of energy to counter gravity and keep yourself under control. I tried downhill skiing after more than 15 years of cross country skiing. That taught me some basics about balance, but I always thought that downhill skiing would be easier..... until I tired it. I had no problem on the bunny hill, thanks to Xcountry experience. I had no problem on the beginner hill. I set off for an intermediate hill. Half way down that hill for the fourth time I thought my thighs were going to explode.
I was 43 the first time I tried down hill skiing, and I was usually twice the age of most of the people around me. I rarely ran into people my age or older. I attribute that to the physical demands. There aren't that many people over 30 who are in condition to even tackle the slopes, and those older people who do try it do only a few runs. Kids have a lot more energy and can easily spend a whole day on the slopes.
k - 17 Jan 2006 00:11 GMT >> > ...Let's just say that if you are old >> > enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > older people who do try it do only a few runs. Kids have a lot more energy > and can easily spend a whole day on the slopes. Sorry, but I disagree. Most young people can't afford to ski often because it's an expensive proposition. I generally ski in the Northeast (Vermont mostly), and can't agree with your statement that most skiers are in their twenties or younger. I think all ages are pretty well represented on the slopes, and seeing a 70-something cutting a nice track is no more unusual than seeing a 5 year old first timer, or a 25-year old hot rodder.
As for your legs hurting after a few hours, that means you're having trouble yourself - possibly with technique, possibly your equipment, maybe just hitting too much rough stuff. Unless the weather turns really awful, I always ski all day long, and I've been skiing for 45 years. Last year, in anticipation of my 60th birthday, my wife took me on a two week ski trip to 6 different areas, and we both skied all day for 13 of those days.
It was tiring, yes, but not at all painful. I don't do the big moguls anymore because that does hurt, but I still like the little ones, and I like skiing in the glades. I don't think I'm especially fit either, and my knees bother me just walking down stairs.
Skiing is a joy, and if it's not a joy for you then you should figure out why. If your legs hurt after a few runs, then something is wrong as I mentioned before. Downhill is absolutely different than cross-country, and I suspect you might be trying to translate some of your old technique to a different sport.
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Dave Smith - 17 Jan 2006 01:45 GMT > > I was 43 the first time I tried down hill skiing, and I was usually twice > > the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Sorry, but I disagree. Most young people can't afford to ski often because > it's an expensive proposition. Nor can they afford hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars worth of equipment, or the cost of a nearby chalet or hotel room. Their parents pay.
> I generally ski in the Northeast (Vermont > mostly), and can't agree with your statement that most skiers are in their > twenties or younger. I think all ages are pretty well represented on the > slopes, and seeing a 70-something cutting a nice track is no more unusual > than seeing a 5 year old first timer, or a 25-year old hot rodder. It must be a lot different there. From my experience, the majority are under 30. I won't say that I never say anyone over 70 on the ski hills, only that it is rare, probably more 5 year olds than over 70 types.
> As for your legs hurting after a few hours, that means you're having trouble > yourself - possibly with technique, possibly your equipment, maybe just > hitting too much rough stuff. Unless the weather turns really awful, I > always ski all day long, and I've been skiing for 45 years. Last year, in > anticipation of my 60th birthday, my wife took me on a two week ski trip to > 6 different areas, and we both skied all day for 13 of those days. Great.... and you did say that you have been doing it for 45 years. It does require some degree of fitness.
> Skiing is a joy, and if it's not a joy for you then you should figure out > why. If your legs hurt after a few runs, then something is wrong as I > mentioned before. Downhill is absolutely different than cross-country, and > I suspect you might be trying to translate some of your old technique to a > different sport. It is indeed different from cross country. With cross country you have to use the skis and poles to get yourself moving and keep moving. With downhill skiing you are trying control the forces of gravity.
Calif Bill - 17 Jan 2006 04:43 GMT >> > I was 43 the first time I tried down hill skiing, and I was usually >> > twice [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > skiing > you are trying control the forces of gravity. I am 62 and wife is 63. We ski Tahoe and we do not feel old, and see lots of people near our age and older sking. More of the younger are in to snow boards. My older daughter boards, and the younger skis. I like Heavenly. They have some deals for first time skiers, lesson and equipment at a really good price. At least last year. Check out Heavenly's website. It may also be at Sierra at Tahoe. Sierra at Tahoe is farther from South Shore. Heavenly has some really nice open bowls to ski.
Walt Tucker - 17 Jan 2006 18:22 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > "Ski Resorts Catering More to Boomers" (http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051230/BIZ0102/512300329/0/0)
... "But the average age of skiers is creeping up steadily every year with some of the sport's fastest growth in the 45 and older demographic." ... "The percentage of overall skiers 45 or older had climbed from 21 percent to 31 percent between 1997 and 2004, NSAA reported."
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I am 47 and just finished skiing a day with a bunch of high school friends of mine. I no longer do the marathon 10 hour ski days I used to do when I was in my 20s, but I can still usually handle 5 1/2 or 6 hours of ski time on a good day. I walk regularly and work out occasionally, but I don't consider myself in great shape.
Most of the younger crowd (my daughter and her friends) seem to go more for snowboarding than skiing, though. That might partially account for the growth of skiing among older folks, as the younger demographic moves towards a different snow sport. I haven't noticed any decrease in the crowds at the ski areas I go to, so I think that the resorts are still attracting as many people purchasing lift tickets as ever, and the ski resorts seem to keep expanding and adding lifts.
> lal_truckee - 18 Jan 2006 00:55 GMT >>> ...Let's just say that if you are old >>> enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > set off for an intermediate hill. Half way down that hill for the fourth time > I thought my thighs were going to explode. Bad technique; Leaning back stresses the quads. Get forward over the skis.
> I was 43 the first time I tried down hill skiing, and I was usually twice the > age of most of the people around me. I rarely ran into people my age or > older. I attribute that to the physical demands. There aren't that many > people over 30 who are in condition to even tackle the slopes, and those > older people who do try it do only a few runs. Kids have a lot more energy > and can easily spend a whole day on the slopes. Skiing is ageless. You can do it till you get your ticket punched for PerfectPowderParadise.
I'm sorry you have difficulty keeping up. Perhaps if you followed Margaret's boyfriend? He's about 90 and slowing a bit - mostly stays on the groomed these days which should help you as well. Many of the geezers around here would wipe the slope with you, on and off piste. Some of the geezers would wipe the slope with me. (And for some other folk, I AM the geezer wiping their slope. <grin>)
BTW, if we wish to continue, this discussion should be moved to rec.skiing.alpine; it doesn't belong in the resorts groups.
ant - 18 Jan 2006 05:00 GMT >>>> ...Let's just say that if you are old >>>> enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> than just standing on a pair of skis and letting gravity do the >> work. Many beginners aren't prepared for the fact that skiing is a SPORT. They seem to expect that you just kind-of get on, buy your ticket, and it just happens. They aren't ready to sweat, and make their bodies move, and use a bit of muscle.
>> It takes a lot of energy to counter gravity and keep yourself >> under control. I tried downhill skiing after more than 15 years of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> intermediate hill. Half way down that hill for the fourth time I >> thought my thighs were going to explode. I think downhill is easier than XC. However! XC is more approachable without lessons. In downhill, not having lessons means a lot of hard work, and usually a nice collection of counter-productive habits. Like sitting back, leading to sore quads. As soon as someone starts up about how sore their thighs are, you know pretty much how they ski.
> Bad technique; Leaning back stresses the quads. Get forward over the > skis. Just stand up. Stand on your feet.
>> I was 43 the first time I tried down hill skiing, and I was usually >> twice the age of most of the people around me. I rarely ran into [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> few runs. Kids have a lot more energy and can easily spend a whole >> day on the slopes. Nonsense! skiing is a great sport for older people, because primarily it's about balance. Sure, you can use muscles and things if you want to, or want to "go hard", but I've taught heaps of older people, mainly women. And they find it very easy.
You probably didn't see many 40+ year olds because they were out on the mountain proper, not stuffing around on the bunny hill.
 Signature ant
jeremyrh.geo@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 20:49 GMT I'll be arriving in Miami on Saturday afternoon, and starting business meetings on Monday. Any recommendations what to do on Sunday?
I'd like to see the Art Deco quarter, but my hotel is in Key Biscayne. How easy will it be to get around? Is public transport feasible? Taxis?
What do you think ?! :-))
Mr B;
VtSkier - 18 Jan 2006 15:04 GMT >>>> ...Let's just say that if you are old >>>> enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > BTW, if we wish to continue, this discussion should be moved to > rec.skiing.alpine; it doesn't belong in the resorts groups. Hello, Eastern geezer here...
I keep running into a group of mid-week skiers at Pico (one of our local mountains). The seem pretty good and I tend to hook up with people who ski well. I hooked up with LAL when I was in the Tahoe area. Good skier, pretty much tireless until he has his first Urqel.
He wipes up my slope in Sierra Cement. I kind of suspect I'd wipe his on EasternFirm(tm). I'd like the opportunity to try. He has the invitation but he seldom gets further east than Salt Lake.
Anyway back to the Pico group. They all dress in the usual way. Helmets, goggles, neck gaiters, etc. You can't see much of their faces. The first time I hooked up, we had a grand old time. Good conversation and good skiing. Then someone clued me in as to who they were. Each and every one of the group has at least 20 years on me and I'm 63.
Now, Dave, take a few lessons and get out there and ski.
Next go-around we should snip RSRNA and RTUC and leave it only in RSA.
VtSkier
KentB - 19 Jan 2006 14:54 GMT I read this thread because we are taking my 11 yo neice for her first ever ski trip in March. Hmm - this isn't what I expected.
I am 47 and DW is almost 40. We ski from the time lifts open until they run us off the mountain. If there is night skiing, I can extend the length of the ski day. Yes, we get tired but that is part of the fun of skiing. Challenge yourself to get in better condition. Good equipment and good lessons may just what you need.
We taught her parents to ski a few years ago. They STARTED skiing in their 60's. Now they are 63 & 64 and go on 4 to 5 trips per year. Not bad when you live in Texas at least 17 hours from any place to downhill ski. And they ski most of every day they are there. We frequently meet people on the slopes that are 70+ and good skiers. Some of the very best skiiers in our ski club are 60+. I will ski with them any time. I always learn from them. In case you are wondering, we ski bumps, trees, off-piste, etc. If it isn't closed I want to ski it.
I think the original poster's opinion doesn't match everyone's.
> >>> ...Let's just say that if you are old > >>> enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > BTW, if we wish to continue, this discussion should be moved to > rec.skiing.alpine; it doesn't belong in the resorts groups. Dave Smith - 19 Jan 2006 20:26 GMT > We taught her parents to ski a few years ago. They STARTED skiing in their > 60's. Now they are 63 & 64 and go on 4 to 5 trips per year. Not bad when [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In case you are wondering, we ski bumps, trees, off-piste, etc. If it isn't > closed I want to ski it. I never suggested that there are not any seniors on the ski hills. My original comment was that if the OP was old enough to have a 14 year old, he would likely be one of the oldest people on the hill. Pointing out that there are some older skiers does not negate that observation. Bear in mind that a first time skier is likely to be at a public facility. Private ski clubs tend to have an older crowd, people who tend to take their skiing a little more seriously.
Walt - 19 Jan 2006 21:02 GMT >> We frequently meet people on theslopes that are 70+ and good skiers. >> Some of the very best skiiers in our ski club are 60+. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be one of the oldest people on the hill. Pointing out that there are some older > skiers does not negate that observation. But pointing out that there are *alot* of older skiers does negate your observation.
There are a lot of older skiers. I'm 45 (today! happy birthday to me!) and I'm not one of the oldest skiers on the hill. Far from it. You can have 14 year old *grand* children and not be in any real danger of being one of the oldest people on the hill.
Especially if you ski midweek before noon. (c:
> Bear in mind that a first time skier > is likely to be at a public facility. Private ski clubs tend to have an older > crowd, people who tend to take their skiing a little more seriously. Aside from the Niagara Escarpment area in Ontario, private ski clubs are few and far between. There's Holimont in NY, Otsego Club in Michigan, and Yellowstone in Montana. Any others? Private ski clubs are a Toronto thing. Not sure why.
The overwhelming majority of ski areas (in North America, anyway) are public facilities. And most of them have a cadre of 70+ regulars who take their skiing seriously.
//Walt
k - 19 Jan 2006 22:28 GMT >>> We frequently meet people on theslopes that are 70+ and good skiers. >>> Some of the very best skiiers in our ski club are 60+. > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > //Walt And all that I've been at have a very healthy representation of age 40+ skiers, the very age you might expect to be with a 14yo child. At least your first 14yo.
k
Dave Smith - 20 Jan 2006 01:00 GMT > > I never suggested that there are not any seniors on the ski hills. My original > > comment was that if the OP was old enough to have a 14 year old, he would likely [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > But pointing out that there are *alot* of older skiers does negate your > observation. Only if you want to live in denial. Sure, there are some older people out there on the ski hills. They are a minority. It's much like equestrian sports. Sure, there are some older riders, there are some male riders. When you go to a top level hunter jumper show more than half of the competitors will be men, mostly in the 30-45 age group, a few older, but if you go to local horse shows most of the competitors are female and most of those are under 25. And if you take a tour of riding schools you won't see many male students anywhere. So when we watch the Olympics or Spruce Meadows we can point out the older male riders and use them to prove our point, but the reality is that the vast majority of English riders are female.
> There are a lot of older skiers. I'm 45 (today! happy birthday to me!) > and I'm not one of the oldest skiers on the hill. Far from it. You can > have 14 year old *grand* children and not be in any real danger of being > one of the oldest people on the hill. Congratulations. You are two years older than I was when I took up downhill skiing. And when I started I was usually the oldest person in the lift line or on a hill at any given time. I did see others my age and older, but they were few in comparison to all the kids.
> Especially if you ski midweek before noon. (c: Yes, exactly.... before the buses arrive with all the kids, or when the teens show up after school and on weekends. The hills are a lot busier then.
> Aside from the Niagara Escarpment area in Ontario, private ski clubs > are few and far between. There's Holimont in NY, Otsego Club in > Michigan, and Yellowstone in Montana. Any others? Private ski clubs > are a Toronto thing. Not sure why. There are private ski clubs that have their own hills and then there are the ski clubs, groups of people who travel in groups to various ski resorts. Whichever is the case, I would suggest that when you are talking about a club you are usually dealing with people who have a close association with the sport and keep it up, not one of the hordes of teens that flock to ski hill son school trips and weekend excursions.
> he overwhelming majority of ski areas (in North America, anyway) are > public facilities. And most of them have a cadre of 70+ regulars who > take their skiing seriously. And I never questioned that they are lots of older people who still ski, only that they would make up more than a very small percentage of the people on a ski hill at any time.
FWIW for 5 years I accompanied the local high school ski club every Friday night during the winter on trip to Ellicottville and my inlaws have a chalet right at the bottom of the hill at Blue Mountain and I have skied there many times. As I said in a previous post, if people honestly think there are more older folks on hills than I have observed, thinks must be quite different where they ski.
lal_truckee - 20 Jan 2006 01:40 GMT > ...if people honestly think there are more older folks on hills than I > have observed, thinks must be quite different where they ski. I don't know where you were, but nearly everywhere else it's different. (I shall now go into lecture mode.)
Let me give you some information (which I expect you already know, but maybe not assembled thusly.) The baby boomers have hit 60. They are the largest cohort. They have the most discretionary money. They travel the most. Their kids are grown and gone. It stands to reason they are the most common cohort at destination resorts.
Many (most? take a poll?) of us represented in these news groups are dedicated skiers and live near and ski at big destination resorts. We see large numbers of baby boomers; We ARE large numbers of baby boomers.
Let me also point out to you that the ski industry is worried about the very opposite of your observation - older skiers statistically dominate skiing; there aren't many younger skiers coming along, and that bodes ill for the future of skiing. Whole BOOKS have been written on the subject.
Possibly you were not aware of the ski industry's concern re the aging of the skier base?
Possibly you will be greatly relieved to discover that physical activity continues with little or no slowdown well into the 70s, as illustrated by the boomer skiers and their near elders who are lighting the way.
Dave Smith - 20 Jan 2006 02:25 GMT > Let me give you some information (which I expect you already know, but > maybe not assembled thusly.) The baby boomers have hit 60. They are the > largest cohort. They have the most discretionary money. They travel the > most. Their kids are grown and gone. It stands to reason they are the > most common cohort at destination resorts. Yes, yes, I am a boomer too. I used to know lots of people who skied frequently when I was younger. Not many of them do any more. For those people who could manage to come up with the money to buy a place with access to skiing and have the free time to get out there and enjoy it, good for them.
The Wilderness Medical Society site has some demographics which agree that the average age of skiers is increasing. However, it differentiates between skiing and snow boarding. We had not mentioned that, and my earlier post referred to be being one of the oldest people in the slope, not specific to skis or boards. According to this site, "the National Sporting Goods Association estimates that since 1988 the number of snowboarders has increased 77%, while the number of skiers has declined 25%. Skiers tend to be older, average age 31, and 60% are male. The average snowboarder is younger, average age 20, and 75% are male." There must me a lot of 1 year old kids on those slopes to bring that average down so low if there are as many 70 year olds on the slopes as you guys would have me believe.
> Many (most? take a poll?) of us represented in these news groups are > dedicated skiers and live near and ski at big destination resorts. We > see large numbers of baby boomers; We ARE large numbers of baby boomers. I would be more interested in a census taken on the slopes during peak times.
> Let me also point out to you that the ski industry is worried about the > very opposite of your observation - older skiers statistically dominate > skiing; When the average age of skiers (not including boarders) is 31?
> there aren't many younger skiers coming along, and that bodes > ill for the future of skiing. Whole BOOKS have been written on the subject. > > Possibly you were not aware of the ski industry's concern re the aging > of the skier base? I came across an interesting article at : http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=2&display=rednews/2005/12/29/build/o utdoors/26-prices-skiiing.inc
It talks about a guy who moved to Montana in 1976 to have better access to skiing, and when he was earning $3.50 an hour a season pass was $75. Now he figures the cost of taking his two teenage daughters for a day of skiing is $200.
> Possibly you will be greatly relieved to discover that physical activity > continues with little or no slowdown well into the 70s, as illustrated > by the boomer skiers and their near elders who are lighting the way. You don't need to tell me about that. I took an early retirement at 53 and spend an hour or two at the Y every day. I took up downhill skiing at 43. I had to quit a few years ago when I messed up my knee, but it is back in shape now. I took up Equestrian jumping at 52 and recently competed in my first jumping show.... and won. I was planning on getting back into skiing now that the kid is finished school and I have a lot more money to enjoy my leisure time, but this winter has been exceptionally warm here and I never did like skiing in above freezing temperatures even if they can make snow at night. I am tempted to make a trip to a ski hill just to check the average age :-) But
Bob - 30 Jan 2006 16:58 GMT "Dave Smith" <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> Only if you want to live in denial. Sure, there are some older people out there on the > ski hills. They are a minority. I don't know where you ski, but this observation sure doesn't apply here in the NW. There are plenty of older skiers/riders where I go. A significant percentage of the more advanced skiers and riders are 40+. They've got years of experience over the 'kids'. Maybe they aren't competing on the racing circuit, but so what - they are some of the best skiers on the hill. Totally in control, unlike a lot of the 'kids'.
When I put on my skis instead of the board, I am amazed how easy skiing is. Certainly not too hard for my 'old' body. Skis sure can make bumps easier than a snowboard, although I'm getting pretty good with the board also.
Bob
PeterL - 17 Jan 2006 04:04 GMT > > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > enough to have a 14 year old kid, you are going to be one of the oldest > people on the hill. Absolutely untrue. There are plenty of grand parents on the slopes. On skis mostly, not snowboards.
> You are looking at some serious costs if you use daily rentals and lift > tickets. I have not skied for a couple years and prices vary, but I can [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > after 4-5 hours of skiing you will be looking forward to the hot tub back > at the hotel. k - 16 Jan 2006 22:18 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thank you, > AS We've been to Lake Tahoe, but never during ski season, even though we're avid skiers. I came across a website http://www.skilaketahoe.com/ that seems to cover all the areas, and they have a place where you can ask questions.
If your 14yo is of the male variety, you may want to consider a snow-boarding lesson as well, as that sport is hugely popular, especially among young people.
I can't be more specific, but we did visit Heavenly two summers ago and it offers a lot of varied terrain. Its in-town location may or may not be a plus, but it opens up your loding possibilities. All ski areas offer packages, with lifts, equipment rental, and lessons being a common combination. The lodging can be packaged too, and for a midweek trip it might be relatively inexpensive.
have fun!
k
lal_truckee - 16 Jan 2006 22:20 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? > Do we need to invest in semi-private / private lessons or are group > lessons fine? Group lessons are just fine for a beginner - weekdays you might even get group rates with just a couple of kids in the lesson. (Privates work well when a) you've got money to burn , or b) you're an accomplished skier who wants to learn a particular advanced skill.)
> We are planning to spend 2-3 days (weekdays, not weekends) on the > slopes and some of the places being considered are Sierra at Tahoe and > Heavenly (expensive?); Either would be fine; call ahead and see if they have a beginner package of ticket, lesson, and equipment. Many resorts basically give away the beginner day anticipating return business. BTW, it's convenient to rent at the slopes, in case you need to change something; the only difficulty is crowds, which you won't have on a weekday. It's a pain to rent in the flatlands and have an equipment problem on the slopes.
> No one at our home knows how to ski and we will appreciate any > suggestions that you can pass on; Don't stress to much - skiing is actually fun. Stay away from boarding - a first timer will spend most of his first days banging his butt or head on the hardpack.
kaimbu@earthlink.net - 16 Jan 2006 22:39 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thank you, > AS Diamond Peak would be a great place to learn - it's small, not that crowded, MUCH less expensive than the larger resorts, very friendly people & less intimidating. Plus, the view from the top is incredible for others in the party.
SMS - 16 Jan 2006 23:29 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > slopes and some of the places being considered are Sierra at Tahoe and > Heavenly (expensive?); No point in Heavenly for a beginner. Someone suggest Diamond Peak, which was a good suggestion. Stay in North shore, or even in Reno for Mount Rose.
Some places have good deals for first time skiers, for lesson/rental/lift.
Check out REI for discount lift tickets for Mount Rose as well. At 14, your kid is past the el-cheapo ticket prices. Bear Valley, Kirkwood, Mt. Rose, Northstar, Sierra at Tahoe, Squaw Valley and Sugar Bowl have REI discounts at the Bay Area stores.
Bryan - 17 Jan 2006 05:13 GMT > What are the good places where our 14 year old can go off safely with > the instructor for a lesson and learn comfortably? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thank you, > AS Whatever resort you choose, your 14 year old will be fine with either all day group lessons (affordable) or all day private lesson ($teep). Just meet up for lunch and apres ski.
steinmh@gmail.com - 27 Jan 2006 16:37 GMT My boss just told me yesterday that for his 7 & 11 year old he paid $800 for 3 days of ski instrution at Heavenly. I know that their 3 hour lesson there is $115 and if it is good depends heavily on the instructor. Some just slack off while others are very good. A whole day private instructor is like $500 or so.
>From an instructor I heard that Sierra is much better for beginners. Heavenly costs $71 for a day pass! And for lunch you can easily calculate $15 per person for a hamburger and a soda. Heavenly has great views of the lake, though. Beautiful.
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