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Travel Forum / Destinations / USA and Canada / January 2006Newark EWR: still severe delays?
OK, so I don't fly very often... I'm looking into flying to eastern Canada. For the Nashville<=>St. John's trip, it's looking like my choices are Continental or Air Canada. Continental is more than $100 less expensive round-trip. On the other hand, if I fly Continental I have to connect in Newark. Last time I flew, I connected in Newark, both directions. It was the worst air travel experience I've ever had. (I could *literally* have *driven* from Manchester, N.H. to Nashville faster than Continental was able to fly me. And I don't believe in speeding.) Severe ground and air traffic delays in Newark. Have conditions in Newark improved since this "flight from hell" in 2000? Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse than they are in Newark?  SignatureDoug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com Ham stuff for sale: http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm > OK, so I don't fly very often... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse > than they are in Newark? If it was severe air and ground delays, then whatever airline you were on would be delayed. And the delays propagate outward from major airports like Newark. I have had delays in several airports, but Newark is not one. But the one thing about Newark Airport i noticed. I think all the people you only see at a carny midway live in that airport. > If it was severe air and ground delays, then whatever airline you were on > would be delayed. And the delays propagate outward from major airports like > Newark. I have had delays in several airports, but Newark is not one. But > the one thing about Newark Airport i noticed. I think all the people you > only see at a carny midway live in that airport. Which was, again, Continental - the same airline that is essentially the competition for Air Canada on this route. The delays certainly did propagate outward from Newark: I knew I was in trouble before leaving Nashville when it was time for the flight to leave & there was no airplane at the gate! I didn't see any unusual people in the Newark terminal but that was probably because they were hidden among all the stranded worn-out travelers! (I will say it struck me as a poorly-laid-out and poorly-marked airport; usually if you pay attention it's not difficult to find your gate but in Newark that didn't seem to be the case. Luckily I had plenty of time to find my equally-delayed connecting flights!) It does sound from the other reply as if this was a short-term thing and that it's safe to schedule flights through this airport. I'd just never encountered traffic-based delays serious enough to cause missed connections before - and since the weather was good (over the entire route) at the time I wondered if there were systemic problems there. SignatureDoug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com Ham stuff for sale: http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm >OK, so I don't fly very often... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse >than they are in Newark? I often fly into and out of Newark and have never experienced delays of this sort, except for once due to severe freezing rain. Maybe it was just your bad luck, or is it just my good luck? SignatureBarbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it. > >Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse > >than they are in Newark? > > I often fly into and out of Newark and have never experienced delays > of this sort, except for once due to severe freezing rain. Maybe it > was just your bad luck, or is it just my good luck? If there are any weather conditions that can cause delays, La Guardia is the worst and Newark is second worst. If I had a connection in Newark, I would be very nervous if the weather isn't perfect. >> >Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse >> >than they are in Newark? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >If I had a connection in Newark, I would be very nervous if the weather >isn't perfect. Or you could say, "JFK is the best and Newark is the second best." SignatureBarbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it. > >> >Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse > >> >than they are in Newark? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Or you could say, "JFK is the best and Newark is the second best." Actually, I meant as far as any airport I've ever known of, not just the three in the NYC area. >>>>Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse >>>>than they are in Newark? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Or you could say, "JFK is the best and Newark is the second best." Or, for fun, La Guardia is in third place while JFK is third from worst. > If there are any weather conditions that can cause delays, La Guardia is > the worst and Newark is second worst. > > If I had a connection in Newark, I would be very nervous if the weather > isn't perfect. If things are the same as they were before we stopped flying in January 2001, O'Hare can be a disaster too. It depends on what you mean by delays. We were on the Newark-St.John's flight last August. The plane left the gate on time. It left the ground an hour later. However, it appears that was factored into their scheduling as we arrived in St.John's on time. Unfortunately, our baggage didn't. It arrived 6 days later. Enjoy yourself in St.John's. Well, maybe I need not say that. I don't know how anyone could go to St.John's and not enjoy themselves. Before making your trip, you may wish to view the photos from our 2005 trip. http://shorock.com/nfld/2005/index.html > OK, so I don't fly very often... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Air Canada connects in Toronto - surely delays in Toronto aren't worse > than they are in Newark? > The plane left the gate on time. It left the ground an > hour later. Yeah, they did that on the Newark=>Manchester leg on my flight too. Apparently the air conditioning on an airplane works more or less the same way as the air conditioning in a car -- which means if you sit on the taxiway & idle for an hour in July, it gets pretty warm! SignatureDoug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com Ham stuff for sale: http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm |
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