Visiting San Francisco in July, Any Suggestions?
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dcostantiello@gmail.com - 23 Mar 2006 21:46 GMT Hello All,
My wife and I will be visiting San Francisco in July for a few days. She's never been and I haven't been since I was about 12 years old. Hotel accomodations have already been booked.
I was hoping to hear suggestions on places to visit, sight-see, tours to take, good restaurants, etc. We would like to take advantage of good sea food, as well as, the chinese and italian cuisines of North Beach and Chinatown. We'll have a car with us, so we'll be able to visit in the greater metro area too.
Thanks,
- Dave
clint - 23 Mar 2006 22:07 GMT Unless you like to walk up an down hilly strets, and breathe in fog, theirs not much appael in Frisco
> Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Dave TheNewsGuy(Mike) - 24 Mar 2006 00:10 GMT > Unless you like to walk up an down hilly strets, and breathe in fog, theirs > not much appael in Frisco No schools either.
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JamesStep@gmail.com - 23 Mar 2006 22:08 GMT >visiting San Francisco San Francisco and nearby attractions are a frequent topic in this newsgroup. I'm sure you'll get plenty of suggestions, but I'd suggest you also do a search of previous discussions and you'll find a large number of posts on this topic. :)
>We'll have a car Actually most visitors find it easier to use San Francisco's excellent public transit system. I'd suggest renting a car only on days you're making day trips out of the city (Muir Woods, Napa Valley, Monterey, etc.).
Jim
PeterL - 23 Mar 2006 22:08 GMT > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Dave The new deYoung museum. Conte Nest voted it one of the new wonders of the world. Also the new Asian Arts Museum.
For food, try R&G Lounge for good Chinese seafood (just outside of Chinatown on Kearny). Also the relatively new Ferry building, where there are several very nice places to eat.
clint - 23 Mar 2006 22:33 GMT A lot of homos in the Fairy Building.. haha
>> Hello All, >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Chinatown on Kearny). Also the relatively new Ferry building, where > there are several very nice places to eat. k - 24 Mar 2006 02:53 GMT >A lot of homos in the Fairy Building.. haha >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> Chinatown on Kearny). Also the relatively new Ferry building, where >> there are several very nice places to eat. The ferry building is relatively new? I thought it had been there a long time.
To the original poster, you can park your car while in town, because it will be more of a hindrance than anything. (unless you want to try the hill on Lombard)
If your wife has never been there and it's been a long time for you, there are tours from the piers on pseudo-trolleys that will give you a good orientation to the downtown and Golden Gate areas. They won't bring you inside anything, but you see a lot in a short time, and they are entertaining and informative at the same time.
Unless you have a specific area of interest, there are plenty of touristy things to keep you busy for a day or two. Alcatraz is actually well done. It's the real thing, after all, and the earphone tour is quite interesting, if a bit macabre. The boat ride gives you great views of the city, too.
Someone who lives there will give you better advice on what restaurants are currently hot. Don't waste your money on the 'clam chowder' they sell on the streets, the stuff in bread bowls. It's crap ... flour and water and not a lot else.
I've been to SF many times, and regardless of its location, never regarded it as a 'seafoody' town. It's not really a fishing port. That said, the variety and quality of ethnic restaurants rivals New York, so I recommend you shoot for something out of the ordinary.
Don't over-plan. If you hit the city on a weekend, lots will be going on, so just go and join in.
k
Hatunen - 24 Mar 2006 18:22 GMT >>> For food, try R&G Lounge for good Chinese seafood (just outside of >>> Chinatown on Kearny). Also the relatively new Ferry building, where >>> there are several very nice places to eat. >>> >The ferry building is relatively new? I thought it had been there a long >time. It's over a hundred years old. But it has been recently remodeled and refurbished.
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Bryan - 23 Mar 2006 22:40 GMT > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Dave Have a great time! Plan on warm sunny days and nice dry warm evenings. Also plan on ice cold wet windy foggy days, especially afternoons/evenings.
Are you an experienced knowledgeable skilled sailor? Charter a sailboat from Sausalito (maybe Club Nautique or Cass's Marina) and take advantage of the howling summer winds and ripping bay currents.
Take a walk in Muir Woods in Marin County.
Take a walk/ride to the top of Coit Tower.
Walk across the Golden Gate Bridge and back in the morning.
Have dessert with a view at the Cliff House.
Go to Fort Point and watch the surfers for a few minutes if there's a swell.
Take a walk through Chinatown.
Ride the trolley and have an Irish Coffee at the Buena Vista Cafe (is it still there?).
Visit the De Young Museum and the Steinhart aquarium.
Icono Clast - 24 Mar 2006 12:19 GMT >> San Francisco in July for a few days >> >> I was hoping to hear suggestions on places to visit, sight-see, >> tours to take, good restaurants, etc. We would like to take >> advantage of good sea food, as well as, the chinese and italian >> cuisines of North Beach and Chinatown. Your best source of advice on where to eat here is the UseNet Group ba.food. There's a link to it at the first URL below.
The "Don't-miss sights in San Francisco" page http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Sights.html has enough to keep you busy for nine twelve-hour days.
The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes.
The frequently-updated SPECIAL EVENTS page has irregularly-scheduled music and dances as well as links to seven calendars of regularly-scheduled dances, a composite of five of them, and one of dance cruises and events around the world: http://geocities.com/dancefest/Specials.html#t
>>Thanks, You're welcome.
> Plan on warm sunny days and nice dry warm evenings. Also plan on ice > cold wet windy foggy days, especially afternoons/evenings. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Go to Fort Point and watch the surfers No surfers there. Windsurfers, yes!
> Take a walk through Chinatown. > > Ride the trolley We haven't trolleys. We have Diesel and electric buses, streetcars, cable cars, and a subway.
> have an Irish Coffee at the Buena Vista Cafe (is it still there?). Yes. As popular as ever.
> Visit the De Young Museum and the Steinhart aquarium. The aquarium is being rebuilt.
The following are not in San Francisco.
> Sausalito > > Muir Woods -- ________________________________________________________________ A San Franciscan in 47.452 mile San Francisco. http://geocities.com/dancefest/ -<->- http://geocities.com/iconoc/ ICQ: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 -------> IClast at Gmail com
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Bryan - 24 Mar 2006 15:16 GMT Bryan wrote:
> <dcostantiello@gmail.com> wrote: >> San Francisco in July for a few days [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> advantage of good sea food, as well as, the chinese and italian >> cuisines of North Beach and Chinatown. Your best source of advice on where to eat here is the UseNet Group ba.food. There's a link to it at the first URL below.
The "Don't-miss sights in San Francisco" page http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Sights.html has enough to keep you busy for nine twelve-hour days.
The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes.
The frequently-updated SPECIAL EVENTS page has irregularly-scheduled music and dances as well as links to seven calendars of regularly-scheduled dances, a composite of five of them, and one of dance cruises and events around the world: http://geocities.com/dancefest/Specials.html#t
> Go to Fort Point and watch the surfers No surfers there. Windsurfers, yes!
As I said, if there is a swell, go watch the surfers at Fort Point. Watching the windsurfers and kite surfers at Chrissy Field is a great idea, too, and a better bet at that time of year, but not as good to watch as the surfers at Fort Point if there's a swell.
> Ride the trolley We haven't trolleys. We have Diesel and electric buses, streetcars, cable cars, and a subway.
Correct. I meant to say cable car.
> Visit the De Young Museum and the Steinhart aquarium. The aquarium is being rebuilt.
The following are not in San Francisco.
> Sausalito > > Muir Woods Your geography is correct, but these are things someone visiting San Francisco might enjoy doing. Sausalito, if they are a sailor, gives them access to some sailboats to charter resulting in a day or afternoon of sailing on San Francisco Bay. Which reminds me, they might enjoy the Alcatraz tour or a visit to Angel Island for a picnic and a lightweight hike. And the redwoods of Muir Woods are always a treat to someone who doesn't live in redwood country and is visiting San Francisco.
And don't forget catching a San Francisco Giants ball game in July. Get some good seats beside right field.
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Icono Clast - 24 Mar 2006 12:17 GMT > I was hoping to hear suggestions on places to visit, sight-see, > tours to take, good restaurants, etc. We would like to take > advantage of good sea food, as well as, the chinese and italian > cuisines of North Beach and Chinatown. Your best source of advice on where to eat here is the UseNet Group ba.food. There's a link to it at the first URL below.
The "Don't-miss sights in San Francisco" page http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Sights.html has enough to keep you busy for nine twelve-hour days.
The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes.
The frequently-updated SPECIAL EVENTS page has irregularly-scheduled music and dances as well as links to seven calendars of regularly-scheduled dances, a composite of five of them, and one of dance cruises and events around the world: http://geocities.com/dancefest/Specials.html#t
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Mimi - 24 Mar 2006 16:40 GMT > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and Chinatown. We'll have a car with us, so we'll be able to visit in > the greater metro area too. Dress warmly. This is NOT a California beach town. Well, it is but ....
Marianne
P.S. Did anyone mention the tour of Alcatraz? It's always popular so maybe book ahead.
PorkTeriyaki - 27 Mar 2006 01:40 GMT Chinatown is a popular site & with many good restaurants. And when you're tired of Chinese food, Columbus Avenue, of North Beach, offers many Italian restaurants. Jefferson Street, on the Waterfront, has many fresh seafood restaurants as well as many places to shop. The Japanese Gardens, in Golden Gate Park, the ruins of the Sutro Baths, & Coit Tower are some must-sees. And take a stroll along the Embarcadero, from Fisherman's Wharf to Market Street.
Icono Clast - 27 Mar 2006 12:09 GMT > Chinatown is a popular site & with many good restaurants. And when > you're tired of Chinese food, Columbus Avenue, of North Beach, offers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Coit Tower are some must-sees. And take a stroll along the > Embarcadero, from Fisherman's Wharf to Market Street. Your best source of advice on where to eat here is the inter-active UseNet Group ba.food. There's also a link to the quite good sfsurvey.
The "Don't-miss sights in San Francisco" page http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Sights.html has enough to keep you busy for nine twelve-hour days.
The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes.
The frequently-updated SPECIAL EVENTS page has irregularly-scheduled music and dances as well as links to seven calendars of regularly-scheduled dances, a composite of five of them, and one of dance cruises and events around the world: http://geocities.com/dancefest/Specials.html#t
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PorkTeriyaki - 31 Mar 2006 02:05 GMT The best source, which i use, is by Googling "San Francisco" & add "underground" or "alternative". I look for what Big Business neglects to tell visitors. I also obtained a copy of "The Underground Guide to San Francisco", by Jennifer Joseph; published by Manic D Press.
Hatunen - 31 Mar 2006 04:21 GMT >The best source, which i use, is by Googling "San Francisco" & add >"underground" or "alternative". I look for what Big Business neglects >to tell visitors. I also obtained a copy of "The Underground Guide to >San Francisco", by Jennifer Joseph; published by Manic D Press. A good sourc for "alternative" goings-on in SF is the weekly newspaper "The Bay Guardian": http://www.sfbg.com/
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PorkTeriyaki - 01 Apr 2006 00:05 GMT >A good sourc for "alternative" goings-on in SF is the weekly >newspaper "The Bay Guardian": http://www.sfbg.com/ Been there. Done that. It is a good source for alternative info. And it's on-line so I can research BEFORE getting there. I've got it permenantly bookmarked for future references.
Icono Clast - 31 Mar 2006 12:50 GMT > The best source, which i use, is by Googling "San Francisco" & add > "underground" or "alternative". I look for what Big Business neglects > to tell visitors. I also obtained a copy of "The Underground Guide to > San Francisco", by Jennifer Joseph; published by Manic D Press. Your best source of advice on where to eat here is the inter-active UseNet Group ba.food. There's a link to on the page in the next paragraph. There's also a link to the quite good sfSurvey.
The "Don't-miss sights in San Francisco" page http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Sights.html has enough to keep you busy for nine twelve-hour days.
The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes.
The frequently-updated SPECIAL EVENTS page has irregularly-scheduled music and dances as well as links to seven calendars of regularly-scheduled dances, a composite of five of them, and one of dance cruises and events around the world: http://geocities.com/dancefest/Specials.html#t
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Martin Bienwald - 10 Apr 2006 17:57 GMT > The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: > http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to get > the *.PDF. I recommend 200-400% magnification. A creation of the San > Francisco Municipal Railway, it includes all of its routes. You might want to know that Muni updated their map, reflecting last year's route changes. The 2005 version is here: http://transit.511.org/providers/maps/SF_928200510805.pdf
... Martin
Icono Clast - 11 Apr 2006 12:51 GMT >> The best on-line map of San Francisco is an inter-active PDF: >> http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif. Click on it to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > last year's route changes. The 2005 version is here: > http://transit.511.org/providers/maps/SF_928200510805.pdf Yes, thank you. If I recall correctly, it's dated Admission Day. These have a file date, here, of September 30: http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.pdf
The on-site date might differ for a variety of reasons.
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Martin Bienwald - 27 Apr 2006 20:51 GMT >> You might want to know that Muni updated their map, reflecting >> last year's route changes. The 2005 version is here: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.gif > http://geocities.com/iconoc/Grafix/MuniMap.pdf I didn't look at file dates, but your .pdf map shows "Copyright 2001" (below the explanation of signs, in the upper left corner) while the map on 511.org shows "Copyright 2005" in the same place. There are, of course, other differences, for example a route change of the #2 trolley bus in the Laurel Heights area.
... Martin
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