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Travel Forum / Destinations / USA and Canada / May 2006NYC: Penn Station to Metropolitan and Frick museums
From Penn Station, it seems that I could walk 1/4 mile east to Fifth Avenue and then take a bus north along Fifth Avenue to either the Frick Collection or the Metropolitan Museum. Am I reading the map correctly? Anyone care to name the busses that run along that route? I hate to get on a bus and then find that it veers along another route. Speaking of busses, do NY busses have any sort of indicator (loud- speaker or otherwise) to inform passengers of the next cross-street? Pete >From Penn Station, it seems that I could walk 1/4 mile east to Fifth >Avenue and then take a bus north along Fifth Avenue to either the >Frick Collection or the Metropolitan Museum. Am I reading the map >correctly? No, because 5th Av. is one-way downtown. You'd have to take the bus up Madison Av. (one block further east). > Anyone care to name the busses that run along that route? 1, 2, 3, 4. You can download a Manhattan bus map on www.mta.info. >I hate to get on a bus and then find that it veers along another route. It won't. >Speaking of busses, do NY busses have any sort of indicator (loud- >speaker or otherwise) to inform passengers of the next cross-street? Yes. The stops aren't always announced, but if you ask the driver, s/he will certainly remind you. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the NOTRASH. Please do not email me something which you also posted. "Pete": >> From Penn Station, it seems that I could walk 1/4 mile east to Fifth >> Avenue and then take a bus north along Fifth Avenue to either the >> Frick Collection or the Metropolitan Museum. Am I reading the map >> correctly? "Michael": > No, because 5th Av. is one-way downtown. You'd have to take the bus up > Madison Av. (one block further east). Clarification: "downtown" in this New York usage is not referring to a part of the city, but means "southbound". Similarly "uptown" can mean "northbound" there.  SignatureMark Brader, Toronto | "The only proven use of antimatter is the production msb@vex.net | of Nobel Prizes in physics." -- Henry Spencer >From Penn Station, it seems that I could walk 1/4 mile east to Fifth >Avenue and then take a bus north along Fifth Avenue to either the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Speaking of busses, do NY busses have any sort of indicator (loud- >speaker or otherwise) to inform passengers of the next cross-street? From Penn Station walk across 7th Ave and east on 32 Street. Halfway up the block you will find the starting point for the M4 bus which will turn up Madison Ave and take you to the Met or the Frick. Fifth Ave is a one-way avenue heading south. The buses that run south on Fifth return north on Madison. But during business hours Madison Ave is a traffic hell hole. Other buses that run north on Madison Ave are the M1, M2 & M3. Yes there is a speaker for announcing the next stop. Some drivers don't use it, some garble the message, some confusingly announce the next stop before they have opened the doors for the current stop, and a few use the system correctly. Get a seat where you can observe the street signs and you will be fine. You can always ask someone on the bus where you are at the moment. If you want landmarks, Ralph Lauren Polo is at Madison and 72 St, the Whitney Museum is the next stop, The Carlisle Hotel is at 76 St A quicker way to get to the Metropolitan Museum from Penn Station is to take a C train to 81 Street at Central Park West. Stay at the front of the train and take the staircase to the left when you exit the station. You will be at the bus stop for the M79 which travels east across Central Park. As you exit the park you will cross Fifth Ave and the museum will be on your left. From the Met you can take a bus down Fifth Ave to the Frick, or just walk. Your Metrocard used on the subway will give you a free transfer to the bus and vice versa. You can't use bills on the buses - they take Metrocards or loose change in exact amounts. If you will make four trips in one day buy a one-day unlimited Metrocard. If you will use the system more than three consecutive days buy a weekly unlimited Metrocard. Just don't use your card first time at 11pm because your first day will expire at midnight. Since you missed the fact that most avenues are one-way I think you do need to study that map a little more. I hope you are using an MTA bus map http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/manbus.pdf You should be able to get a paper copy at Penn Station. Good Luck, Brian Wickham Just wanted to add a note to Brian's wonderful response. There is a site called http://www.hopstop.com which will give you exact subway instructions and includes walking directions for once you get upstairs from the train; you might want to look at that for your other travels around the city. Have fun. Carol Editor - Lowfares.com http://www.lowfares.com > From Penn Station walk across 7th Ave and east on 32 Street. Halfway > up the block you will find the starting point for the M4 bus which > will turn up Madison Ave and take you to the Met or the Frick. Fifth > Ave is a one-way avenue heading south. The buses that run south on > Fifth return north on Madison. But during business hours Madison Ave > is a traffic hell hole. Considering that I am staying at Hotel Pennsylvania, the #4 bus seems perfect. By the way, what do you mean by business hours? Does Madison Avenue become less crowded after 9:00 AM so I can visit the Metropolitan Museum soon after opening? Or is it busy from 9-5? Pete >> From Penn Station walk across 7th Ave and east on 32 Street. Halfway >> up the block you will find the starting point for the M4 bus which [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Considering that I am staying at Hotel Pennsylvania, the #4 bus seems >perfect. By the way, what do you mean by business hours? Business hours are generally considered to be 9-5 on weekdays, although you're probably aware that many businesses are open earlier or/and later than that. > Does >Madison Avenue become less crowded after 9:00 AM No, I wouldn't think so. Don't count on it, anyway. > so I can >visit the Metropolitan Museum soon after opening? Sure you can. Just allow about 40-45 minutes to get there. > Or is it busy >from 9-5? More like 7 A.M. to 8 P.M. That's Midtown you're talking about. At any point during the day, you could have bumper-to-bumper traffic, or not. But plan on traffic being heavy, even if moving. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the NOTRASH. Please do not email me something which you also posted. >Considering that I am staying at Hotel Pennsylvania, the #4 bus seems >perfect. By the way, what do you mean by business hours? Does >Madison Avenue become less crowded after 9:00 AM so I can >visit the Metropolitan Museum soon after opening? Or is it busy >from 9-5? Actually at 9 am you might be able to make good time going up Madison Ave. The traffic grinds to a halt when the trucks making deliveries start double parking on the avenue, but that doesn't usually start until about 10 am. The same thing applies to Fifth Ave where traffic moves until about 10 or 10:30 am. Madison Ave gets worse as the day wears on but that won't be a problem for you. Fifth Ave actually loosens up around 5 pm so a late return won't be so bad. But if you are in a hurry take the M79 bus west to Central Park West and catch a "C" Train south to Penn Station. The bus will take about 5 minutes or less and the train trip is about 10 minutes. You can also stay on the bus three more stops to Broadway where you take the #1 Train to Penn Station at 7th Ave., right across the street from your hotel. BTW, the M4 bus going north up Madison Ave also continues on through upper Manhattan al the way (last stop) to the front door of The Cloisters, a branch of the Metropolitan Museum containing mostly Romanesque art and Medieval tapestries. Nice views of the Hudson River and the George Washington Bridge from the surrounding Fort Tryon Park. Brian Wickham > Actually at 9 am you might be able to make good time Thanks for this tip. I'll just leave early enough, and besides, I want to start my day with the museum opening. > But if you are in a hurry take the M79 bus west to Central Park > West and catch a "C" Train south to Penn Station. Thanks for the alternative. I'll probably need it unless I just hang around the area near the Metropolitan Museum (I'm sure I can find something else to do considering what's in the neighborhood). Pete >> Actually at 9 am you might be able to make good time > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Pete The Met is adjacent to Central Park. You might enjoy walking for at least part of the way through the park back to Midtown. If you tire, just walk to either the east or west boundaiies of the park and catch a bus the rest of the way. |
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